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Aaron73153
October 25th, 2003, 08:03 AM
SAN FRANCISCO — As part of its campaign to thwart online music and movie piracy, Hollywood (search) is now reaching into school classrooms with a program that denounces file-sharing and offers prizes for students and teachers who spread the word about Internet theft.

The Motion Picture Association of America (search) paid $100,000 to deliver its anti-piracy message to 900,000 students nationwide in grades 5-9 over the next two years, according to Junior Achievement Inc., which is implementing the program using volunteer teachers from the business sector.

Civil libertarians object that the movie industry is presenting a tainted version of a complex legal issue — while the country's largest teachers' lobby is concerned about the incentives the program offers.

"What's the Diff?: A Guide to Digital Citizenship" launched last week with a lesson plan that aims to keep kids away from Internet services like Kazaa that let users trade digital songs and film clips: "If you haven't paid for it, you've stolen it."

"We think it's a critical group to be having this conversation with," said MPAA spokesman Rich Taylor, suggesting online piracy may not have yet peaked. "If we sit idly by and we don't have a conversation with the general public of all ages, we could one day look back at October of 2003 as the good old days of piracy."

The effort doesn't stop in the classroom. Beginning Friday, public service announcements are being released to approximately 5,000 theaters nationwide, profiling people in the movie industry and arguing that digital piracy threatens their livelihoods.

Indeed, Jack Valenti, president of the MPAA, told Penn State University (search) faculty and students this week that his industry is in "a state of crisis" over digital theft.

But some copyright law experts aren't pleased that the MPAA is the only sponsor for such classroom discussions. They worry that the lesson plans don't address "fair use" constitutional protections for digital copying for personal or educational use.

"This is really sounding like Soviet-style education. First they're indoctrinating the students and then having students indoctrinate their peers," said Wendy Seltzer, a lawyer for the Electronic Frontier Foundation. "The takeaway message has got to be more nuanced. Copyright is a complicated subject."

Melinda Anderson, a spokeswoman for the National Education Association, says it's unsettling when corporate presence in the classroom is tethered to sponsored incentive programs.

In this case, Junior Achievement is offering students DVD players, DVD movies, theater tickets and all-expenses-paid trips to Hollywood for winning essays about the illegalities of file-sharing. Teachers, too, can win prizes for effectively communicating the approved message in class.

"What it speaks to is kind of a new era in commercialism emerging in classrooms where the attempts to connect with students are becoming more and more sophisticated. Schools that are often strapped for cash are more tempted to partner with these organizations," Anderson said.

"Coming from school, these companies are getting a tacit endorsement for their product," Anderson said. "That's not a school's role — to be the purveyors."

The program got a rocky start during its first presentation, to some relatively cyber-savvy teens at Raoul Wallenberg High School in San Francisco.

Andrew Irgens-Moller, 14, buried his head into a backpack on his desk and rolled his eyes as the guest teacher warned of computer viruses and hackers that could take control of a user's desktop via file-sharing programs. He objected that antivirus software could scan downloaded files and only sophisticated hackers could pull off the remote desktop computer takeover.

Then the teacher cut him off.

Bret Balonick, a tax accountant on loan from PricewaterhouseCoopers to teach the anti-piracy class, was arguing that some downloaders have been affected by malicious activity. Besides, he said, it's illegal to upload and download unauthorized content online.

"If it's illegal in America, host it in Uzbekistan," snapped the 14-year-old.

Balonick then had the freshmen role-play as singers, actors, producers, computer users. But even the "producers" quietly acknowledged that they too share song files over the Internet.

"It's not illegal if you decide to give it away," said Wilson Cen, 13, regarding burning copies of music CDs for his friends. "They don't want you selling them. It's a gift, you're not selling it."

Brenda Chen said she uses Kazaa at home: "I just want certain tracks from the CD, not the whole CD. It's a waste of money."

David Chernow, Junior Achievement's chief executive, said in a telephone interview that the explosion of peer-to-peer activity among young people is a ripe topic for public school classrooms.

"We're really trying to teach young people to be responsible and to obey laws that they may not understand," Chernow said. "Just because it's easy doesn't make it right."

Source: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,101102,00.html

shawners
October 25th, 2003, 08:37 AM
i dunno why they preaching to school, not like they dont try to find every LOOPHOLE in fileing TAXES SO THEY dont have to pay so much to schools!

Aaron73153
October 25th, 2003, 08:42 AM
How is the industry in a state of crisis with box office records being set and sales of DVDs increasing every year?

Ken17625
October 25th, 2003, 09:04 AM
What an unsettling article, though the responses from some of the students were refreshing.

Perhaps, as these reactions increase, the MPAA and others may realize that they are fucking themselves over.

origin
October 25th, 2003, 10:16 AM
wow MPAA has moved on up I see whoops I mean down preaching to kids wooo that sounds effective :P and since when did preaching ever work? lol

l8

Wolfie
October 25th, 2003, 10:51 AM
Melinda Anderson, a spokeswoman for the National Education Association, says it's unsettling when corporate presence in the classroom is tethered to sponsored incentive programs.


What do they expect to happen when public schools are minimally funded and teacher highly under-paid? When someone waves some cash around of course they'll become corporate whores of some capitalistic agenda.

Aaron73153
October 25th, 2003, 11:36 AM
The thing with schools being underfunded is that they necessarily aren't. If you look at other Asian and European countries they pay les per student than the US, yet their students do better than ours. Money for schools needs to be spent better and parents need to stay involved in their child's education. Teachers who have been with the schools for a few years make pretty good money and remember that they only work 9 months out of the year, so its not a fair comparison to compare it to salaries of other people who work 8 hours a day and work all year.

jonnymnemonic
October 25th, 2003, 12:22 PM
That teachers underpaid thing, well, I dunno about that. I don't think that's true in all cases, certainly. My significant other takes in around 65k a year, and that's in the Midwest, where cost of living is relatively low. We're not rich, to be sure, but that's not bad money. She could even make a little more if she got her doctorate (but not enough more to be worth the hassle, which is why she hasn't). Sure, it'd be NICE if teachers got paid more, but here in the Midwest anyway, teachers are doing okay, and the pay scale rises pretty fast. And there's tenure, medical and dental, retirement benefits, educational discounts on computers and software (and lots of other stuff).

Anyway, all I can say is, I ain't complaining about teacher salaries. House paid for, car paid for, motorcycle paid for, computers (two macs, three IBMs, and two laptops), paid for. Credit cards paid off. And her credit rating is so good she has a variety of credit cards she could just go charge a brand new car with if she wanted to do that, like $28k credit card limits. (We won't discuss MY credit rating, but it surely doesn't touch that!)

Maybe more teachers should be living here in the Midwest if they're complaining about low pay. ;)

Wolfie
October 25th, 2003, 12:44 PM
My perspective is from the southwest of the US and at least there are two states that have the lowest teacher salaries in the US. We have teachers leaving my state to other states (maybe even to the midwest as Jonny pointed out that salaries are not so bad) because of being underpaid.

As for money for public schools issue it really does not matter wither the money is not there to begin with or it is spent on useless stuff (like Aaron pointed out). Both case senarios is creates the illusion or reality of being underfunded. Therefore, when corporations (like Pepsi when they started to saturate schools with thier vending machines) start waving money around, they create tempting prospect for schools to sell out. MPAA is probably using this to bring it's anti-P2P
campaign in to schools.

tMoD
October 25th, 2003, 12:48 PM
Although this program takes it to a new low, the war against the corporatization of public schools was fought and lost a long time ago. Hopefully by the time the next generation grows up we will have already won and filesharing will be safe from legal prosecution.

towel402
November 5th, 2003, 04:09 PM
this is just wrong and manipulative.. they take advantage of the fact that 5 year olds are easily inflewenced.. this should be banned

Ghostalker
November 6th, 2003, 03:37 PM
I'm kinda curious how the MPAA and RIAA can moan and groan about how sales are down and it's hurting profits, yet they keep throwing money at the problem. Honestly who hasn't (as a kid) stolen a candy bar. When you look back, you see it wasnt a really big deal and besides... there are tons more candy bars where that one came from.

If anyone came into a classroom of mine as a kid, and lectured me on stealing cool stuff from the web, the 3 words I would home in on were: Cool, Stuff, Web. Hell I would go home asap and download as much as I could, then brag about it the next day. Kinda like smoking in 9th grade. "All the cool kids do it". Yeah, there are consequences, but fortunatly they are less then smoking.

It's not like if the kids do DL music or movies they are gonna get caught. I think the 2 compaines learned that sueing little 12-yr olds was bad PR. Even I sent in 5 bucks to help that poor little girl a few months back. Best slap in the face I've given the RIAA yet.

Now that I think about it.... Under the first amendment, the P2P group has the right to go tell kids to good parts of file sharing. Because if you allow a group to come in and preach their side, you HAVE to allow a counter-veiw. That why many school's don't have a "Anti-Gun club" because they would HAVE to allow the NRA or other pro-gun group inside.

If the recording industry had any sense whatsoever, they would install some P2P software on the school network, then monitor the kids and see how they can make an effective Pay service.