New Bug in songs

[FutureIverson]

Well unlike the scratch bugs which are mainly on Kazaa. There's a new bug brewing this one is on DC++, Imesh, Kazaa and ares.

The song shows in full length when downloading. Looks real so a 3:50 min song appears 3:50. It plays then at like 2:30 no scratch just a song cut. I've heard of songs cutting early but this is a type of thing share dby bots and other people who i guess downmload a song then never listen to it. Continue to delete your fakes to stop network congestion. I know for sure that this isnt' all bots, ppl just need to delte their trash, if ppl quit p2p fine but it should be for fear of the riaa if zanything (and not really that) but i don't want fakes to discourage ppl from using p2p.

[Undermind]

one would have to be a very shallow p2per in order to let a few fakes bring them down

[rainbowdemon]

one would have to be a very shallow p2per in order to let a few fakes bring them down
This is true! But on dial-up, fakes can be a real pain in the ass!!

[shawners]

My solution is if your IN DCC hub and you download a fake, maybe keep a notepad list of people you download from and the songs.. So you can report them and kick them out.. or find the IP thats sharing and add them to your peerguardian..

[MarkB]

Do you sometimes get those screeching noises, like as if hundreds of people are dragging their exhaust pipe on the ground while driving? Is this the latest kind of music to hit the streets....screeching music?

[Ken17625]

Do you sometimes get those screeching noises, like as if hundreds of people are dragging their exhaust pipe on the ground while driving? Is this the latest kind of music to hit the streets....screeching music?

Fasttrack is littered with em.

Worse yet, is because of the multisource, you can be downloading from 3 people, 2 of them could have the whole complete file, and one could be the fucking faker, and you'll always get a peice of the shit from the faker mixing with the rest.

[Undermind]

This is true! But on dial-up, fakes can be a real pain in the ass!!


I hear ya, but honestly if you're (not you specifically) still on dial up, then that is your own fault, I mean how long has high speed access been out now? it's not gonna get drastically cheaper anytime soon, so it's time to jump on the train and stop dealing with the headaches of molasses

[cjules13]

I hear ya, but honestly if you're (not you specifically) still on dial up, then that is your own fault, I mean how long has high speed access been out now? it's not gonna get drastically cheaper anytime soon, so it's time to jump on the train and stop dealing with the headaches of molasses
Broadband isn't available everywhere yet... I got a buddy in outside of Aurora, IL (within the Chicago metroplex...) that STILL doesn't offer any broadband. It's on the way soon, but certainly broadband is still a city luxury...

As far as fakes on DC, haven't heard any yet, but I think that's the right idea... since their mods are ruthless anyway, report the faker and that outta teach em! Yeah! :devil2

[Mr. Crowley]

Originally Posted by Undermind
I hear ya, but honestly if you're (not you specifically) still on dial up, then that is your own fault, I mean how long has high speed access been out now? it's not gonna get drastically cheaper anytime soon, so it's time to jump on the train and stop dealing with the headaches of molasses

Broadband isn't available everywhere just yet. From where I live, the nearest cable is about 25 miles away, and about the same for DSL. I think Rainbow is in the same boat on this one. The only thing I could get is satelite. I would be more than happy to do that if you wouldn't mind paying for it for me. :upside

[rainbowdemon]

Broadband isn't available everywhere just yet. From where I live, the nearest cable is about 25 miles away, and about the same for DSL. I think Rainbow is in the same boat on this one. The only thing I could get is satelite. I would be more than happy to do that if you wouldn't mind paying for it for me. :upside
You hit it right on the head. The only thing that's available here is dial-up, and satellite. And satellite is mad expensive. If it gets more reasonable it the future, I'll be the first to sign up.

[shawners]

Theres a hash ip i added to peerguardian, and it seems to work, I tried it on three of the newest albums released. So far it has stoped screeching, I had kazaa running and downloaded it from FIVE USERS.. and i got the screech.. And then i ran peerguardian.and it blocked two of them.. BUT You must set it at 100 percent.. so its fully effective.. I posted the ips on afew threads.. let me know if you need it.

[simian]

I've never encountered a fake file. But then again, I never use Fasttrack. For music, I use slsk(mostly) or winmx(occasionally) and that pretty much covers it. No problems with fakes there.

[Xtaycee_n_your_coffee]

That screeching is terrible, how does a song get to be that way?

[k-lite_junkie]

This is true! But on dial-up, fakes can be a real pain in the ass!!

In a sense they are, but on the other hand they're not. I notice once i start d/l a song if its a fake or not. The screechers are filled with empty spots and it d/l at amazing speeds. I average 4-5kb/s on my 56k connection, when i start to d/l a song and it's a fake i'll pull 10kb/s and up. Once i was pulling 25-30kb on my 56k modem (physically impossible). Oops, cancel that d/l cuz it's a fake... the other downside to that is I then have to find a file with a greater bitrate which means increased size. Oh well, can't win em all.

[FutureIverson]

well one thing is a fake, downloads so fast it's hard to preview b4 it finishes with broadband, with 56k u can delete it without having to go through your whole colletion. Broadband is still better of course but it's not 100% bad having 56K.

[Undermind]

okay, so broadband is not that widespread yet, all I can say I feel for 56kers I really do, just do yourself a favor and don't use any computer that has broadband and then go home, you'll want to smash your computer Office Space style

[FutureIverson]

i li like that, office space style. Yeah when my parents took the cable away for reasons i'll keep to myself that include downloading (note their okay with music hint hint) I went to 56K, it felt like 14.4K

[Malicious Intent]

I keep my files nice and neat for my sake as much as the communities. A fake song may lay in my shared folder until I get round to paying it, which can be all night sometimes, but never more than 24hrs.

[shawners]

I use to download things off kazaa and keep it in my shared directory, but in kazaa lite. I would rate the song as TERRIBLE or label the file tag to say FAKE or what ever was the problem. BUT i dont know if kazaa registered it, cause i saw people still downloading it from me.. EVEN if its part of the hash file. SO i started deleteing rather then share that crap. So now i share my music folder of real stuff, and have files go into another folder i dont share til i verify it.

[FutureIverson]

good job shawners, your helpin us out

[Ken17625]

honestly if you're (not you specifically) still on dial up, then that is your own fault

all I can say I feel for 56kers I really do

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[Ken17625]

I use to download things off kazaa and keep it in my shared directory, but in kazaa lite. I would rate the song as TERRIBLE or label the file tag to say FAKE or what ever was the problem. BUT i dont know if kazaa registered it, cause i saw people still downloading it from me

If you are part of a multisource, people are probably NOT seeing your specific file info that you supplied. I hate to say it, but at one time, you were contributing to the spread of these fakes. Sad, but true.

[kiwibank]

In a sense they are, but on the other hand they're not. I notice once i start d/l a song if its a fake or not. The screechers are filled with empty spots and it d/l at amazing speeds. I average 4-5kb/s on my 56k connection, when i start to d/l a song and it's a fake i'll pull 10kb/s and up. Once i was pulling 25-30kb on my 56k modem (physically impossible). Oops, cancel that d/l cuz it's a fake... the other downside to that is I then have to find a file with a greater bitrate which means increased size. Oh well, can't win em all.


i have had bursts of over 100 kb/s on fasttrack on my intel 56 k v92 modem-impossible i know ,but true. we are situated 400 metres from an exchange that`s just been upgraded. most times i pull an average download speed of between 5-6 kb/s and have no trouble downloading large, good quality media files. i have had 1 " screecher ". i find i`m getting fast (for 56k) download speeds on the latest soulseek as well-also averaging 5-6 kb/s..

[Patryck]

Bahhh, I always get rid of them and try again. Never Quit.

[shawners]

Ok heres what i noticed.. lol downloading a file.. Theres a kazaalitek++265 user out.. i think thats what i remember the nick in the picture.. So seven users, and blocked out three ips it tried to connect to.. i never gave it a chance to try the other four, it kept trying to connect to three of the same names.

[FutureIverson]

nice sig shawners

[Undermind]

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yeah, just a bit of contradiction there, oh well, lets just say I feel for you if you have no other choice but 56k, but I have no sympathy for you if you do

[shawners]

thanks! FutureIverson. I hear about enron alot being in Texas that i am.. I had 56k modem, I loved IMESH when i did, i think it was one of the first multisource.. and my downloads were alot faster then the other networks.

[FutureIverson]

no doubt, zp is slow again(at home) sad. Imesh gave me some crazy speeds. way better than kazaa lite. also gave me more spyware.nowiuseieshlite

[DeweyBear]

The only networks that I trust for music are newsgroups, bittorrent and mirc. I've never had any problems with fakes from these sources.

[Malicious Intent]

Talking of fakes I've noticed that the RIAA bots have wised up to not always having numbers after their names. Bandwidth and file size are still a give away though.

[shawners]

i never had fakes from MIRC, in fact i never got into bit torrent.

[FutureIverson]

yup MI it's pretty easy to pick them out, im enjoying my downloads 10X better

[RACKnRAIL]

This is true! But on dial-up, fakes can be a real pain in the ass!!

I would have to agree with this statement, though I have a high-speed connection. However, if I was on dial-up though, I would surely not use fasttrack (Kazaa), since it is ridden with fakes. Even a 3.5 mb fake on dial-up is a huge waste of time. I find even with cable, it's still extremely frustrating. I hardly ever use K++ for that reason.

[Ken17625]

yeah, just a bit of contradiction there, oh well, lets just say I feel for you if you have no other choice but 56k, but I have no sympathy for you if you do

I feel for you, with no sympathy huh?

Sounds about right.

[Omyn]

Its so easy just delete the damn things when you download them.

Some people are too lazy though or just dont ever listen to the songs that they download.

[shawners]

These fakes usually make me wait to the release of the album so i get a good copy of a rip.. 192 lame.. I suggest using more album wraps to keep an album from fake hashing and screeching.

[Kevin06906]

Fake Files are a pain in the ass....even for broadband.

Cause like you have a good amount of files from a new album that just came out to download from...but everything you click on..it's all fake.

But sooner or later i get the song clean.

[RACKnRAIL]

That's all I was saying, but worse on dial-up. I hate dial-up! But hey...in some places, that's all there is.

[collideous]

Fake Files are a pain in the ass....even for broadband.

Cause like you have a good amount of files from a new album that just came out to download from...but everything you click on..it's all fake.

But sooner or later i get the song clean.

you're on the wrong network. there are plenty of p2p communities with no fake files.

[FutureIverson]

you're on the wrong network. there are plenty of p2p communities with no fake files.

that's the thing i found them on DC++ and Bittorent their not jus on Kazaa.