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rctempire
October 10th, 2003, 03:01 PM
Taken from http://www.securityfocus.com/news/7180


Stung by criticism over lax software security, Microsoft Corp. disclosed plans Thursday to update its flagship Windows operating systems early in 2004 to make consumers less vulnerable to hackers.

Microsoft said the changes, announced by chief executive Steve Ballmer during a trade conference in New Orleans, will be offered free in the next "service pack" update to users of Windows XP and Windows Server 2003 software, the company's latest versions for consumers and businesses.

The announcement was aimed at calming Microsoft customers increasingly irritated by the ease with which hackers and others have broken into Windows computers. Adequately protecting an average personal computer can take far more time than many customers are willing to spend.

Microsoft promised to improve the way in which Windows manages computer memory to protect users against commonly exploited software flaws known as buffer overruns, which can trick Windows into accepting dangerous commands. Some of the most damaging attacks in recent months fall under this category.

The company promised to improve its built-in firewall feature, which has drawn criticism in the past because it was not especially strong and was routinely turned off in new copies of Windows. The update will automatically turn on the updated firewall and enable companies to centrally manage each computer's protective settings.

"Our goal is simple," Ballmer said. "Get our customers secure and keep them secure. Our commitment is to protect our customers from the growing wave of criminal attacks."

The changes were designed to improve security even for customers who fail to diligently apply the dozens of repairing software "patches" Microsoft offers each year.

For example, even computer users who did not install a protective patch for the "Blaster" virus this summer would have been protected if they had known to turn on Windows' built-in firewall, said Mike Nash, a vice president for Microsoft's security business unit.

"We can have a shield in place where we can make sure the customer is immune," Nash said.

Critics have said Microsoft releases far too many patches, which frustrate employees responsible for installing them on hundreds of computers throughout companies and which can interfere with other programs already installed.

"Microsoft treats security problems like public-relations problems," said Bruce Schneier, the chief technology officer for Counterpane Internet Security Inc. and a frequent critic of the company. "I hate to be cynical about this but every time Microsoft announces these things, it never gets better."

Microsoft promised to begin distributing these repairing patches monthly, rather than weekly, and making the patches easier to install and to remove when they conflict with existing software. The company said it still would rush out an emergency patch midmonth if it determines hackers were actively breaking into computers using a software flaw it could repair immediately.

It also promised a new Web site for consumers that will determine when patches need to be installed for all other Microsoft products.


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Thank go m$ has relised they have a problem with there oses and constant updates for them

Hopefully it will be good tho

isus
October 10th, 2003, 06:28 PM
to say microsoft is going to make their os secure is an oxymoron or somethin... as the most used os, it's gonna be the most attacked. there will always be holes, and there's not much they can really do to stop it since there is the internet and all the weird ass services that we needed.

yes, the little box that pop-ups with 'messenger' info is really important...

rctempire
October 10th, 2003, 08:39 PM
I agree isus

windows is the largest used so it will be attacked the most

Plus like internet Explorer more stuff happens to that than say netscape

All down to what most people use

tMoD
October 25th, 2003, 12:24 PM
They've said this before, I believe, and it never materialized. :mellow

RACKnRAIL
October 25th, 2003, 12:44 PM
Yeah...they'll be more secure after they steal some more source code and call it their own.

Malicious Intent
October 25th, 2003, 12:55 PM
Stop your bitching - it's free isn't it?

notbob
October 25th, 2003, 12:58 PM
they could make microsoft the most secure os ever

all they have to do is remove all networking and internet functions

they should just send me a big check for that one

Pebbles100
October 25th, 2003, 02:18 PM
I wonder if it will be free for 2K users?

rainbowdemon
October 25th, 2003, 02:39 PM
I wonder if it will be free for 2K users?
It would be nice. But I kind of doubt it. I use 2K also.

nasrules
October 25th, 2003, 02:47 PM
Paaaahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!

As if! Anyway, they won't make any major changes until Longhorn comes out in 2005, and that'll be full of DRM, so I certainly won't be obtaining it. At least, it won't be used while my PC is connected to the net! Looks like Windows Server 2003 will be the last Windows I'll use. When Longhorn comes out, exclusive Linux use here I come!

Shadow Lane
October 25th, 2003, 02:53 PM
Yeah Nasrules. Even if Microsoft could protect us from the big, bad world, who's going to protect us from Microsoft (DRM, TCPA, WMP spyware, Index.dat, Passport info harvesting and so on forever.)

Pebbles100
October 25th, 2003, 03:08 PM
...exclusive Linux use here I come!

!!!DRM!!??? F' that, :finger be right there with ya, lol!

De Bunk
October 25th, 2003, 03:26 PM
lol wtf i dont care lol. windows is the best OS who cares if it is sucky in places. everything runs on it lol

but i guess you need to be secure too so i hope they sort this out lol. i dont wanna get haxxored lmfao.

Jelsoft
October 25th, 2003, 03:43 PM
Didn't Microsoft promise security with Windows XP?

Look where it got us? Worms, Trojans, etc.

shawners
October 25th, 2003, 03:55 PM
They should fix the flaw since they created windows with it... This guy Bill Gates is a billionaire?

Ken17625
October 25th, 2003, 08:07 PM
The update will automatically turn on the updated firewall and enable companies to centrally manage each computer's protective settings.

Yep, get everyone all ripe for an ass reaming of drastic DRM/anti-piracy proportions.

RACKnRAIL
October 26th, 2003, 06:13 AM
Stop your bitching - it's free isn't it?

I don't know if you thought my comment was a bitch or someone elses, since you never quoted me, but if it was...ur n idiot...there's nothing free about M$ or Bill wouldn't be filthy rich. furthermore, what I implied, is known facts about M$ stealing linux source code and don't forget their run in with Java, Sun Microsystems, and I'm sure there is more. So if you are going to accuse someone of bitching, try gathering some facts. You obviously have lots of time.

shawners
October 26th, 2003, 06:37 AM
maybe each upgrade implements the DRM technology, the last one will auto make a patch where you willl have to autoupgrade, like a virus sending to machines.. They can send network messages to your pc.. who knows what they can do to you if they wanted to.

isus
October 26th, 2003, 10:13 AM
hahahahaha...

that's funny.

even though linux and mac have an equivalent for everything on windows (except games. but mac has a lot of those games... warcraft3, ut2003, etc), this guy would still stick with windows.

that's just sad in my opinion, that the reason he will stick with all that crap, is bc he thinks he can run anything on it, and no other computer can.

i also find cute, the way microsoft bought connectix (the makers of virtual pc) and then cut linux from the supported os' or somthing like that.

Aaron73153
October 26th, 2003, 10:26 AM
hahahahaha...

that's funny.

even though linux and mac have an equivalent for everything on windows (except games. but mac has a lot of those games... warcraft3, ut2003, etc), this guy would still stick with windows.

that's just sad in my opinion, that the reason he will stick with all that crap, is bc he thinks he can run anything on it, and no other computer can.

i also find cute, the way microsoft bought connectix (the makers of virtual pc) and then cut linux from the supported os' or somthing like that.


The WINE project keeps pregressing along, so hopefully games won't be an issue.

isus
October 26th, 2003, 10:51 AM
there ya go.

so both mac and linux either have, or have a way to run, popular windows games, so there is pretty much a way to do anything you could do on windows, with mac or linux.

method
October 26th, 2003, 12:00 PM
MS should make their stupid OS's and updates totally freeware. Why? 'coz they never deliver on their promises and each OS is fucked up. Upgrades shouldn't cost a penny/cent/whatever. We've paid for a decent OS, we've got tarted-up win2000 (aka XP) and when we want what we originally paid for we have to pay more to upgrade to a version that is as secure as the first version should have been. M$

Malicious Intent
October 26th, 2003, 12:01 PM
I don't know if you thought my comment was a bitch or someone elses, since you never quoted me, but if it was...ur n idiot...there's nothing free about M$ or Bill wouldn't be filthy rich. furthermore, what I implied, is known facts about M$ stealing linux source code and don't forget their run in with Java, Sun Microsystems, and I'm sure there is more. So if you are going to accuse someone of bitching, try gathering some facts. You obviously have lots of time.
Its was a joke. M$ is free in the p2p sense. I was therefore suggesting that because of p2p I didn't know that MS cost money. If its free (like i was pretending to believe) then you can't complain about it.
If you think I'm having a go at you then you are mistaken. That goes to everyone with all my posts.

notbob
October 26th, 2003, 12:19 PM
there ya go.

so both mac and linux either have, or have a way to run, popular windows games, so there is pretty much a way to do anything you could do on windows, with mac or linux.

wine is slow as shit, and still can't run anything but the simplest .exe's

if you had ever tried it you would know that, but like every other comment you make, it is not based on experience but on assumptions based on 3 sentences you read somewhere once


you couldn't run a modern game in wine no friggin' way in hell

Psilaxs
November 2nd, 2003, 11:30 AM
Everyone is always thrilled when the newest copy protection is broken (Safedisk 2 etc) When drm is by-passed. When vulnerabilities on copy protected music CD's are found. But yet everyone gets PISSED off at Microsoft when its Windows flaws are discovered, as if it is somehow their fault. Some people here need to start looking at things realistically.

origin
November 2nd, 2003, 12:19 PM
I agree with janet999 if MS did come out with a perfect OS why would there be a need for people to buy new OS's in the future or ever want to upgrade the OS.
And even more importantly It's software code it was created by man and could be manipulated/changed by man for good uses like piracy :) or bad uses like exploiting security issues in the OS to spread viruses trojans etc.

l8

aqlo
November 2nd, 2003, 01:06 PM
Yeah none of Malicious Intent's posts are actually intended maliciously. That's just satire man. It's ironic.