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intergalactic
October 1st, 2003, 12:23 PM
You don't need to be omniscient and omnipresent, such as intergalactic, to guess that when a person is named "C-Murder," eventually, they are going to kill somebody. Not only did one person "see murder," two people fingered the notorious rapper and younger brother of Master P.
If you want to read more about this surprising turn of events, here is a link for the Google News Articles (http://news.google.com/news?num=30&hl=en&edition=us&q=cluster:www%2eheraldtribune%2ecom%2fapps%2fpbcs% 2edll%2farticle%3fAID%3d%2f20030930%2fAPN%2f309300 728).
Here is a link for Rolling Stone Magazine's website (http://www.rollingstone.com/news/newsarticle.asp?nid=18760), a bastion of knowledge.
Kyle06
October 1st, 2003, 12:30 PM
You don't need to be omniscient and omnipresent, such as intergalactic, to guess that when a peron is named "C-Murder," eventually, they are going to kill somebody. Not only did one person "see murder," two people fingered the notorious rapper and younger brother of Master P.
If you want to read more about this surprising turn of events, here is a link for the Google News Articles (http://news.google.com/news?num=30&hl=en&edition=us&q=cluster:www%2eheraldtribune%2ecom%2fapps%2fpbcs% 2edll%2farticle%3fAID%3d%2f20030930%2fAPN%2f309300 728).
Here is a link for Rolling Stone Magazine's website (http://www.rollingstone.com/news/newsarticle.asp?nid=18760), a bastion of knowledge.
hello and welcome to zeropaid...
from now on could you please not use big words like that you confusing me :P thanks...
Potato
October 1st, 2003, 12:39 PM
intergalactic has been running around posting all sorts of stuff with big words. It's good stuff though. :)
A celebrity convicted of murder.... so they DON'T get off easy all the time.
XtraNtnse
October 1st, 2003, 01:09 PM
Another rapper involved in crime. What else is new? :mellow
Kevin06906
October 1st, 2003, 01:22 PM
"The rapper received an automatic sentence of life behind bars on Tuesday after a Louisiana jury convicted him of second-degree murder in the shooting death of a 16-year-old boy."
Now that's bad. Well, basically that's what rap is today, killing, drugs, ghetto, etc. and heavy metal, death metal etc.
I know some rappers rap about their life in the ghetto, but who cares? The whole point of life is trying to get away from the ghetto...not be in it. Also where do you think people get the ideas from. The rapper is rapping about living in the ghetto and then people who listen to it, they follow the same path.
Also, shit like "Shoot and kill the white boy" and all this other crap.
Now this rapper that killed a 16 year old boy can go to jail for the rest of his life and be with the queers.
Shadow, Thief of the Sun
October 1st, 2003, 01:32 PM
I just heard that 50 cent shot somebody. Is that true ?
Anyway, what an asshole this guy is (sorry if you're his fan). He thinks he's some kind of superhero, great musician, bla-bla-bla. I'm afraid that most of the rappers today are similiar in their attempt to show how important they are and how smart they are etc. etc.
And that C-Murder character is not that different from 50 cent and all others...... i really wish that most of them could return to jail, shut up and stop rapping about prostitutes and fancy cars.
I agree about that "ghetto thing". How long can you talk about guns, cars and all of that ? Heavy metal is at least somewhat melodic, even though there might be a lot of crappy bands of that genre out there.
Omyn
October 1st, 2003, 02:14 PM
Oh my...
Your meaning to tell me that some rapper actually has a rival rapper and attempted to kill them.
And all this time I thought rap was so nice and non-violent.
I guess I was living in a dream world.
Why cant all the rappers who talk about living in the ghetto and smacking hoes do the rest of the world a favor and crawl back to the hole they came out of.
baghdad_steve15
October 1st, 2003, 02:21 PM
Welcome to Zeropaid intergalactic. Funny intro. Someone is getting karma points or whatever they are calling it.
Shadow, Thief of the Sun
October 1st, 2003, 02:24 PM
Check it out:
"Relatives of C-Murder, whose real name is Corey Miller, began to sob when the verdict was read and were escorted from the Gretna, Louisiana, courtroom."
What about the family of the guy who was shot ? Oh, he's not that important, he's not a rapper, forget about him.....
Oh no, wait...
"He was said to have been a fan of C-Murder's"
Same thing with kids who were buying drugs from future rap superstars. They weren't rappers, so even if they are dead by now, they are less important than their dealers. Yeah, right.
Lord_of_the_Dense
October 2nd, 2003, 11:31 AM
You don't need to be omniscient and omnipresent, such as intergalactic, to guess that when a peron is named "C-Murder,"
Well at least you had the omnipresent part right; most superior beings wouldn't have grade school words mispelled.
Not only will Arnold defeat the Rise of the Machines (at some point), he will also defeat the T-1000 year old Davis.
Induna
October 2nd, 2003, 12:21 PM
C-Murder ain't that big a rapper. His brother, Master P is however, or was. He don't rap no more, retired. He's into acting now. You may have seen him in some New Line Cinema movie.
intergalactic
October 2nd, 2003, 01:11 PM
Well at least you had the omnipresent part right; most superior beings wouldn't have grade school words mispelled.
Not only will Arnold defeat the Rise of the Machines (at some point), he will also defeat the T-1000 year old Davis.
intergalactic may be older than your "sun," but he still does not use spell check. When he types with such speed (and without editing his posts) he sometimes inadvertently misspells words.
In time, you too Lord_of_the_Dense will stop criticizing intergalactic and just appreciate his words.
aqlo
October 2nd, 2003, 07:26 PM
return to jail, shut up and stop rapping about prostitutes and fancy cars.the sound of the Man tryna keep us Downperondon't cry for me Argentina
intergalactic we need your insights
http://www.zeropaid.com/bbs/showthread.php?t=14619
CCSDUDE
October 2nd, 2003, 07:58 PM
Good...I hope he gets 'it' in there.
Anyone with half the IQ of any middle class working man has no fucking place making gobs of money for acting like a total ass. IE talking like a scum bag/acting like one.
Psilaxs
October 2nd, 2003, 08:38 PM
I was holding off on posting something, but after the unanimous consensus of this dirt bag i will reply.
Do you see rock bands or heavy metal bands shooting each other? No. Do you see them shooting their fans? NO! I never recall once Motley Crue taking shots at Metallica with a 9mm lol. Remember though, it is just the "media" trying to make them look bad, somehow they will find a way to blame this one on "whitey"
BTW CCS, I agree 100% with your assessment of rappers, they are scumbags.
*Edit* Mt. Intergalactic seems an awful lot like Wingnut hmmmmm.
P4L
October 2nd, 2003, 08:55 PM
Good. I hope there are more of his kind to follow.
CCSDUDE
October 2nd, 2003, 08:58 PM
I was holding off on posting something, but after the unanimous consensus of this dirt bag i will reply.
Do you see rock bands or heavy metal bands shooting each other? No. Do you see them shooting their fans? NO! I never recall once Motley Crue taking shots at Metallica with a 9mm lol. Remember though, it is just the "media" trying to make them look bad, somehow they will find a way to blame this one on "whitey"
BTW CCS, I agree 100% with your assessment of rapers, they are scumbags.
*Edit* Mt. Intergalactic seems an awful lot like Wingnut hmmmmm.
Mr. Galactic has been winging it for awhile now. :wings Wingnut is also a total scumbag...DOWN WITH WINGNUT! He shot my tofu turkey...bastard.. heh
/joke on
Uh an I recall Elton John taking a swing at Gwen Stefani...she beat him down in 2 minutes flat...then he had a go at Letters to Cleo's lead singer..and she beat him down.. :)
/joke off
Erm..just noticed...rapers/rappers .... ;) They rape teens of IQ points so you're lil spelling mix up isn't far off...
intergalactic
October 2nd, 2003, 10:46 PM
BTW CCS, I agree 100% with your assessment of rapers, they are scumbags.
Intergalactic is in agreeance with Psylaks on this subject.
He does disagree with his views on rap artists. This is just the type of blanket statement that intergalactic feared from one such as Psylaks. Rappers are just people, some rappers are good, some rappers are bad, just like any human being. Stereotyping, such as this broad blanket statement, does not take into account individuality and should be avoided.
cheapprick
October 2nd, 2003, 11:10 PM
All hail the newly restrangified (you can probably guess I made that up myself)Intergalactic.
Some rappers are trash, some of them are really talented. Blanket statements are dangerous for their use toward bigotry even in cases where that wasn't the original intention.
Psilaxs
October 2nd, 2003, 11:11 PM
Intergalactic is in agreeance with Psylaks on this subject.
He does disagree with his views on rap artists. This is just the type of blanket statement that intergalactic feared from one such as Psylaks. Rappers are just people, some rappers are good, some rappers are bad, just like any human being. Stereotyping, such as this broad blanket statement, does not take into account individuality and should be avoided.
Rappers ughh, I make one typo and look, every gets on me, thats what i get for spelling things correctly 98% of the time.
Seriously though, I pull no punches, they are scum bags. I should not make such a statement because what, One or two percent are positive?
I watched MTV this morning for the hell of it, what was playing? RAP, what was it about? Beating people up, Liquor, Sex, Hummers (The vehicle mind you), Money, etc etc I stand by my statement, in fact, I do not think it was harsh enough. I cannot see how kids are not tired of some big angry black guy shouting into a microphone.
You can sugar coat things all you want to be "politically correct" but i refuse to.
CCSDUDE
October 2nd, 2003, 11:30 PM
Rappers ughh, I make one typo and look, every gets on me, thats what i get for spelling things correctly 98% of the time.
Seriously though, I pull no punches, they are scum bags. I should not make such a statement because what, One or two percent are positive?
I watched MTV this morning for the hell of it, what was playing? RAP, what was it about? Beating people up, Liquor, Sex, Hummers (The vehicle mind you), Money, etc etc I stand by my statement, in fact, I do not think it was harsh enough. I cannot see how kids are not tired of some big angry black guy shouting into a microphone.
You can sugar coat things all you want to be "politically correct" but i refuse to.
*claps* I couldn't agree more... Maybe 2 percent of 'rappers' TODAY mind you are decent if not positive and actually creative. The rest are media driven SHIT and weak shit at that. Blanket statements such as "you've heard one rap song and you've heard them all" are pretty damn close to being on target in this day an age. It's almost all about rape/pimping/drugs/violence/sex/money/showing off and over all being PROUD of such acts.
What kinda message is that? Not good...so why condone it and allow children to listen? I know I wouldn't... If I was forced to allow it Eminem (considering some of his demented crap has a positive message underneath) or some more community oriented positive hip hop thats pre-crap rap would be in order.
cheapprick
October 2nd, 2003, 11:39 PM
I watched MTV this morning for the hell of it, what was playing? RAP, what was it about? Beating people up, Liquor, Sex, Hummers (The vehicle mind you), Money, etc etc I stand by my statement, in fact, I do not think it was harsh enough.
From that perspective though I should be getting rid of my Johnny Cash and AC/DC too. And I'm fond of both.
Psilaxs
October 3rd, 2003, 12:06 AM
From that perspective though I should be getting rid of my Johnny Cash and AC/DC too. And I'm fond of both.
Johny Cash and AC/DC do not sing continually about violence, (yes yes i know, "I shot a man in Reno just to watch him die" By Johny Cash, and "shoot to thrill" by AC/DC) They certainly do not demean women in their lyrics though. AC/DC can be sexual, they never really degrade women.
Not a good argument Cheapprick. :aim
I could go on and on, I wouldn't mind so much if it wasn't for the fact that all of their music is about violence, sex, drugs, etc etc. Except for the occasional "loving" remembrance song about one of their "homies" who happened to what? thats right, got a "cap busted in his ass".
cheapprick
October 3rd, 2003, 12:20 AM
Johny Cash and AC/DC do not sing continually about violence, (yes yes i know, "I shot a man in Reno just to watch him die" By Johny Cash, and "shoot to thrill" by AC/DC) They certainly do not demean women in their lyrics though. AC/DC can be sexual, they never really degrade women.
lol, you're joking?
intergalactic
October 3rd, 2003, 01:35 AM
Johny Cash and AC/DC do not sing continually about violence, (yes yes i know, "I shot a man in Reno just to watch him die" By Johny Cash, and "shoot to thrill" by AC/DC) They certainly do not demean women in their lyrics though. AC/DC can be sexual, they never really degrade women.
Not a good argument Cheapprick. :aim
I could go on and on, I wouldn't mind so much if it wasn't for the fact that all of their music is about violence, sex, drugs, etc etc. Except for the occasional "loving" remembrance song about one of their "homies" who happened to what? thats right, got a "cap busted in his ass".
Intergalactic has decided to file this under "different strokes for different folks." Just since you cannot appreciate this type of music or the surrounding culture does not give you the right to attack this music and the surrounding culture.
Intergalactic tells it like it is and is going to use unusual candor regarding this issue. Your usage of "political correctness" implies what, he believes, is the underlying fear of African Americans that accompanies fear and hatred of rap music in middle-class, white Americans. Who predominantly listens to this music? Suburban white kids. The statements contained in your (and CCS's posts) are just stereotypes, having no substantive stance other than data that you have heard second-hand.
You are lumping rap together in a very ignorant manner. What of rappers such as the Jurassic 5, Public Enemy, KRS-One and others as well as the underground hip-hop movement that is about positivity, education and furthering of the urban narrative? For the most part, rap music is just beats and rhymes; non-sensical and fun.
[UQUOTE=Psylaks]I could go on and on, I wouldn't mind so much if it wasn't for the fact that all of their music is about violence, sex, drugs, etc etc. Except for the occasional "loving" remembrance song about one of their "homies" who happened to what? thats right, got a "cap busted in his ass".[/QUOTE]
This statement shows your complete lack of knowledge of rap music. You are referring to "Gangsta' Rap," a subset of Rap Music pioneered by such groups and artists as N.W.A and Cypress Hill. This is a part of Hip-hop but does not comprise the whole. You are using a logically fallacious argument using the parts to generalize to the whole. "Gangsta' Rap" is a type of music that intends to accurately depict the occurences and mood of the urban denizens of the inner city and their troubles and travails.
Your fear stems from the correlation of rap and violence in society, but the correlation does not determine causality. The rap music could just as easily be the cause of violence as just a reflection of this aspect of society.
You are reacting to a caricature, without understanding what you hate. This is not out of character for you though.
Induna
October 3rd, 2003, 02:05 AM
WOW, Psilaxs showing his true ignorance, who'd have thought it? What about the times when you recalled the greatest rappers of all time, do they fit into this stereotype that you've uncovered?
Just put a sock in it, or turn the mic off, you're making yourself look real bad.
Psilaxs
October 3rd, 2003, 02:19 AM
I don't give a shit, i hate drum thumpers music plain and simple.
Quote "Intergalactic has decided to file this under "different strokes for different folks." Just since you cannot appreciate this type of music or the surrounding culture does not give you the right to attack this music and the surrounding culture."
You're kidding me right? I have the right to form an opinion on what ever i want, whether you agree with it or not.
You speak of positive rap like it is a prevalent thing, funny, i do not hear kids thumping their car stereos to a "we are the world" esque rap song.
No, i hear them blasting their rap music that pertains to bitches and ho's, sex, money.
And yes Induna, they also fit into that catagory.
it isn't ignorance, what it is, is i have the balls to say it, and most won't like it.
Unlike many of you I haven't been brain washed into thinking anything black = good.
If it is only a reflection of their culture, then their culture sucks too. Tell you what, all you people that are so sensitive to the African American perils, I will make you a deal. Come visit me some time, and we will take a little trip into Downtown Fort Wayne, on a Friday or Saturday night, around 2 am on Pontiac and Clinton street. Then lets see how sensitive you are.
grab_grab_the_haddock
October 3rd, 2003, 02:21 AM
It's almost all about rape/pimping/drugs/violence/sex/money/showing off and over all being PROUD of such acts.
What the hell are you whining about? Sex, drugs, violence and money are some of the most inexhaustible topics you could think of. There are great authors who have made a living writing about these things.
Hey, i know youre a clean living guy and youd rather hear someone rap about eating their greens, or doing their homework, but in the real world (where these working class black people live) there is an enormous amount of drugs, violence and prostitution.
Rappers are doing what any other worthwhile artist does and talking about what they know, and how they live. Whats the big deal about that?
Psilaxs
October 3rd, 2003, 02:25 AM
Yes, and Scotland is just KNOWN for it's huge black (am i still allowed to identify races by color name?) population.
Induna
October 3rd, 2003, 02:30 AM
That's a good quote Haddock, it made me chuckle.
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Originally Posted by CCSDUDE
It's almost all about rape/pimping/drugs/violence/sex/money/showing off and over all being PROUD of such acts.
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Like most of your posts are about rape/drugs/violence/sex/money/showing off and being all PROUD of such acts. Well not sex obviously becuase you haven't had a girlfriend in a long time.
Induna
October 3rd, 2003, 02:54 AM
>Unlike many of you I haven't been brain washed into thinking anything black = good.
No silly, we don't take what they say seriously. It's all an image, yes, it can be negative but that's what sells. Not just music, magazines, T.V any form of media. And not just rap either. It's an industry. They give the consumers what they want.
Half these rappers are family men, with kids and a wife, or 'wifey' at the crib 'home'. Even these guys are afraid to walk around the ghetto at night, christ, anybody would. If they were confronted by a guy in a ski-mask brandishing a gun, they wouldn't grab their jock and start talking about how hard they are, they'd shit themselves.
Honestly, I can't believe you've fallen for this. It's not real. All rappers are not scumbags.
Now put a sock in it you dimwit.
grab_grab_the_haddock
October 3rd, 2003, 03:00 AM
Yes, and Scotland is just KNOWN for it's huge black (am i still allowed to identify races by color name?) population.
Your point?
grab_grab_the_haddock
October 3rd, 2003, 03:07 AM
That's a good quote Haddock, it made me chuckle.
Well i did get to thinking that maybe rap would suit CCSDUDE's taste more if they rapped about cornholing 14 year old "skanks".
Psilaxs
October 3rd, 2003, 03:53 AM
>Unlike many of you I haven't been brain washed into thinking anything black = good.
No silly, we don't take what they say seriously. It's all an image, yes, it can be negative but that's what sells. Not just music, magazines, T.V any form of media. And not just rap either. It's an industry. They give the consumers what they want.
Half these rappers are family men, with kids and a wife, or 'wifey' at the crib 'home'. Even these guys are afraid to walk around the ghetto at night, christ, anybody would. If they were confronted by a guy in a ski-mask brandishing a gun, they wouldn't grab their jock and start talking about how hard they are, they'd shit themselves.
Honestly, I can't believe you've fallen for this. It's not real. All rappers are not scumbags.
Now put a sock in it you dimwit.
An Image? Is that before or after they become famous? Of course it is an act for some. But you know as well as I do most of them are not the good family men you make them out to be. How many were/are involved in a life of crime and drugs at one point? MANY. How about the newest rap sensation 50 cent? from everything I gather he was a piece of shit also, or is it just a gag to sell records, he wasn't really shot in the face. How about Puff didly daddy doo? no, he is a great guy, he only gets in trouble for beating the shit out of people, carrying guns without permits etc. Tu pac? he's dead, shot by a rival rap record company. Biggie? Same thing. Life insurance must be at a premium for rap labels because that is one hell of an expensive "act". Moron
grab_grab_the_haddock
October 3rd, 2003, 06:30 AM
An Image? Is that before or after they become famous? Of course it is an act for some. But you know as well as I do most of them are not the good family men you make them out to be. How many were/are involved in a life of crime and drugs at one point? MANY. How about the newest rap sensation 50 cent? from everything I gather he was a piece of shit also, or is it just a gag to sell records, he wasn't really shot in the face. How about Puff didly daddy doo? no, he is a great guy, he only gets in trouble for beating the shit out of people, carrying guns without permits etc. Tu pac? he's dead, shot by a rival rap record company. Biggie? Same thing. Life insurance must be at a premium for rap labels because that is one hell of an expensive "act". Moron
How can you judge an artists music based on their family and home life? Mick Jagger is far from a devoted father and solicitous husband. Does that mean the rolling stones made shit music? John Lennon was an adulterer and drug taker. Does that make his music crap? Elvis Presley was a drug addict. Does it naturally follow that his entire back catalog sucks?
You may be justified in disliking a musicians image and personal life, but that bears little relation to the artistic value of their music.
Psilaxs
October 3rd, 2003, 09:33 AM
How can you judge an artists music based on their family and home life? Mick Jagger is far from a devoted father and solicitous husband. Does that mean the rolling stones made shit music? John Lennon was an adulterer and drug taker. Does that make his music crap? Elvis Presley was a drug addict. Does it naturally follow that his entire back catalog sucks?
You may be justified in disliking a musicians image and personal life, but that bears little relation to the artistic value of their music.
Thats very true and i do not normally relate the two. But I never heard Mic Jagger bragging about not being a good father, or John Lennon singing about cheating on his "bitch" And i don't recall Elvis singing about "Chronic" and "Indo-smoke" If there is a good rap song, I can admit that, regardless of who made it, or what it is about.
wonderboy2005
October 3rd, 2003, 10:27 AM
am i misssing somthing? you're all arguing about the 'integrity' of a complete genre of music? first of all, it is extremely prejudice to group the so called "scum" with all the other types of music that fall into the catagory of rap. and even if in your opinion they are scum, what does it matter? no one is forcing you to listen to it, no one has kidnapped your 12 year old suburbanite son and forced him to listen to it. no... this music is listened to by choice. and that is one of the most fundamental ideas that our current society is built upon. these artists have the right to free speech. if you dont like it, too bad. but there is no reason that those that do find this type of music to be entertaining shouldn't be able to enjoy their music because some random white person thinks its 'scum'. that would be altering culture to fit your opinions. and that is an exponetially larger injustice in my opinion than the latest rap artist selling his product based upon sex, or drugs, or whatever it may be.
long time lurker
October 3rd, 2003, 10:41 AM
I was holding off on posting something, but after the unanimous consensus of this dirt bag i will reply.
Do you see rock bands or heavy metal bands shooting each other? No. Do you see them shooting their fans? NO! I never recall once Motley Crue taking shots at Metallica with a 9mm lol. Remember though, it is just the "media" trying to make them look bad, somehow they will find a way to blame this one on "whitey"
BTW CCS, I agree 100% with your assessment of rappers, they are scumbags.
*Edit* Mt. Intergalactic seems an awful lot like Wingnut hmmmmm.
and i might add that if a white band wrote some of the songs they wrote all hell would break loose. the ACLU, gay groups,naacp, now, and the liberal media would go nuts unless of course it was white liberals singing the song. there is a double standard going on here.there was a liberal radio talk show host that was playing a racist song over and over about condoleezza rice and no one said anything. cruz bustamante said the N word while talking to black americans nothing. bill clinton and all his problems with women, NOW did not say a word but now they are attacking arnold. it goes on and on. this double standard thing is wrong. whats wrong for one should be wrong for all
CCSDUDE
October 3rd, 2003, 10:50 AM
I think MANY of you are missing the point...
It's all well an good to put on a show and pretend your shit...it's not when kids take it to heart and start basing their morality on such crap.
ICP is a joke...it's OBVIOUS they're a fucking joke yet dumb white kids follow that moronic troop like they were gods.
Now take some kids with the same mentality and give them rap...it's explicit, violent and negative..YET it's based in reality rather then fantasy. What's that get you?
Grabgrab, that's twelve not fourteen...get it right damn it!
wonderboy2005
October 3rd, 2003, 10:56 AM
and i might add that if a white band wrote some of the songs they wrote all hell would break loose. the ACLU, gay groups,naacp, now, and the liberal media would go nuts unless of course it was white liberals singing the song. there is a double standard going on here.there was a liberal radio talk show host that was playing a racist song over and over about condalisa rice and no one said anything. cruz bustamante said the N word while talking to black americans nothing. bill clinton and all his problems with women, NOW did not say a word but now they are attacking arnold. it goes on and on. this double standard thing is wrong. whats wrong for should be wrong with both sides.
i really dont think its as bad as you make it out to be. arnold is getting it because as a politician, one is expected to have certain qualities and or morals, which in this case, arnold did not hold up to. Clinton went thru the same thing. its not as if he got off the hook... he was impeached, and if my memory serves me correctly, he was only the second president to go thru that. your average citizen is not held up to such a high standard, and thus does not get the amount of criticism that a high profile representative would be subjected to.
long time lurker
October 4th, 2003, 06:06 AM
i really dont think its as bad as you make it out to be. arnold is getting it because as a politician, one is expected to have certain qualities and or morals, which in this case, arnold did not hold up to. Clinton went thru the same thing. its not as if he got off the hook... he was impeached, and if my memory serves me correctly, he was only the second president to go thru that. your average citizen is not held up to such a high standard, and thus does not get the amount of criticism that a high profile representative would be subjected to.
i,m not saying what arnold did was ok what i'm saying is when clinton went thru it the media at first made no big deal about it until they had no choice but to. clinton already was attorney general,governor and president at the time of his various misdeeds, where arnold was not a politician.still not saying it was right just poiting out the difference.and clinton got impeached for lying under oath not because of sexual allegations.and yes your average citizenis not held up to such a high standard but certain hollywood stars and rock stars almost get a free pass depending on what political party you follow.thats all i am trying to say
Lamourlady
October 4th, 2003, 08:16 AM
who was this sixteen year old......just some kid?
i know his name is listed, but what was the motive?
anyhoo.....the rapper got what he deserved, just like anyone else, they r not special.
que-em
October 20th, 2003, 08:45 PM
Don't forget it is Louisiana so it's is possible that he might not have commited the crime. Being from the most backwards state in the nation i have heard of stranger things happening. Unlike other states you dont need much evidence to get a murder conviction -- just a couple of people to say it was you and that's all it takes. If you not from Louisiana you're lucky; don't play that sh!t in this state, you'll be in for life and having the name C-Murder didn't help his case. People are always getting shot at clubs out here so maybe it was self defense but with this being Louisiana you'll never know.
DudeAsInCool
October 20th, 2003, 09:13 PM
Too bad about his brother, but I kinda like Master P's music--although he was a southern rapper, his fans were mostly college aged white kids, and the music wasn't as down and dirty as most rap stuff--it was just dance music
Met Suge Knight a couple times--I cant speak for the stuff he produced (beyond some of the Tupak stuff) but he's one of the funniest people I ever met.
Rap is generally not my cup of tea, but i feel uncomfortable with any type of censorship despite the themes of drugs, murder, etc etc and the bad poetry
Psilaxs
October 20th, 2003, 11:46 PM
Too bad about his brother, but I kinda like Master P's music--although he was a southern rapper, his fans were mostly college aged white kids, and the music wasn't as down and dirty as most rap stuff--it was just dance music
Met Suge Knight a couple times--I cant speak for the stuff he produced (beyond some of the Tupak stuff) but he's one of the funniest people I ever met.
Rap is generally not my cup of tea, but i feel uncomfortable with any type of censorship despite the themes of drugs, murder, etc etc and the bad poetry
Did he and his goons dangle you headlong over a 5 story balcony? lol :)
DudeAsInCool
October 21st, 2003, 09:08 AM
Did he and his goons dangle you headlong over a 5 story balcony? lol :)
Nah i didnt say i went into bizness with em however a friend of mine used that very incident in a film of his
Siskabush
October 21st, 2003, 11:36 AM
Beleive it or not, some rappers are good,
but 99% of them are untalented morons.
These 99% spread the word that it is cool to whore yourself out and get laid 10 times at a party when youre high on crack. Then they make you feel pathetic by rapping about how much money they have, and how big thier cars are, stating the message that "were better then you", which prompts the listener to go out and steal a car.
The rap music of today has raped the minds of todays generation, especialy the native american generation, including my cousin (Fucking other kids at parties, she is 15 for fuck sakes, and she is a whore).
Glad I listen to Trance instead of that garbage.
Trance addicted native guy right here.
crackerjacker
October 23rd, 2003, 03:11 AM
A thug is a thug. With regard to what I just said it does not matter or does it. The fact remains that when someone commits a crime they are going to be held liable for it.
Regardless if its rap or any other genre of music will not matter because ulitimately people are responsible for their own actions.
If you ever listened to a rap song and notice that the hardcore rappers talk about using a gun and shooting it at people and smacking their bitch up, then you know that this type of rap is negative and can influence people to act irrational.
However just because the song is talking about violence people who listen to it decide to listen they are the ones to decide whether this music will influence them to do negative stuff or not.
Hell I listen to hardcore rap etc and not because I enjoy the lyrics but because I enjoy the beat and what not. I will just tend to go with the instrumental in this case, but if their is no instrumental i will listen to the hardcore version.
But as of now I have not gone outside and used a gun and shot someone. Its about choice. So yeah rap music or any other genre of music can influence you to a certain degree but not to the point where you should not be sensible and know the difference.
I hate that people blame music for committing a crime. Its up to a person to do the right thing. Come on lets get real you do not have to listen to any form of music that you feel will so call corrupt your mind or influence you to commit a crime or something.
The basis for the story in the thread is just facts.
While people feel the need to blame others for their own actions is beyond me is stupid. Sure being rational is common sense but ultimately the truth of the matter is you can not blame others for what you do.
As for the story I hope the mofo *motherfucker* does get convicted and send to the slammer because if you commit the crime you do the damn time.
Hmm sometimes people have to defend themselves in life but in this article they did what they want to. Now its time to face the consequences.
Peace! :)