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PuNiShErKiLl666
September 18th, 2003, 04:38 PM
I just started using Knoppix 3.2 and really like it so far. I was wonder if I could download AIM (AOL Instant Messaganer) or Trillian for it? Also is there a way to download window programs to it?

Thanks I will probly be asking more questions soon.

cpugeniusmv
September 18th, 2003, 04:45 PM
for a trillian-like experience, try GAIM..i believe it even comes with knoppix.

for windows programs, search google for WINE (wine is not an emulator) also comes with knoppix.

method77
September 18th, 2003, 04:53 PM
doesn't knoppix work without instlling?

use mandrake and u will be even more satisfied...

Malicious Intent
September 18th, 2003, 04:59 PM
I don't use Linux or AIM, but found you this link:
http://www.aim.com/get_aim/linux/latest_linux.adp

baghdad_steve15
September 18th, 2003, 05:19 PM
Knoppix rules. It can be installed on your hard drive.

Use GAIM. It already comes with Knoppix, plus it also connects to IRC, ICQ, MSN (for now), Yahoo!(for now) and of course Jabber.

Be careful when using WINE because linux can be infected by Windows viruses if your not to careful with how you set up WINE.

Moderate linux user, correct me if im wrong.

isamoor
September 30th, 2003, 09:59 AM
Yes, gaim is what your want for instant messaging. There are actually official native ports of AIM and Yahoo if you need them. They come in rpms though, and Knoppix uses debs, so you might want to as around on www.justlinux.com
about installing them if you must. Oh, and there's Kopete now too that might come with the latest knoppix. It works about the same as gaim now.



As for wine getting you viruses, I seriously doubt this. Most viruses exploit the windows kernel or registry in some way. Nothing you run as a user in wine would have the ability to hurt you system seriously.

At the same time, wine is a very nasty beast to get going. If you want to do any gaming with it, definatly go invest some money in winex and get some good tech support. (It's $15 for 3 months, not an arm and a leg)

Knoppix does work without installing and it is a great way to get introduced into linux. Mandrake is arguably the best newbie installation. Although, the hard drive install of knoppix has been reworked, and it might be even easier. And with knoppix, you have apt-get. Mandrake's urpmi is nice, but it still can't take apt-get.


Later,

Isamoor

baghdad_steve15
September 30th, 2003, 11:30 AM
You should download the newest version of Knoppix (3.3) that was just released a few days ago. It is sweet.

mliesenf
October 7th, 2003, 10:01 PM
The University of Florida Computer Science and Engineering Department hosts an extremely fast Knoppix Mirror.
ftp://ftp.cise.ufl.edu

Forty6an2
November 4th, 2003, 08:50 PM
I don't know a whole lot about linux, but am interested in learning, so where would be the place to do that?

fernandez
November 4th, 2003, 09:03 PM
You can try the following sites Forty6an2

http://www.linux.org/lessons/ lessons and guides
http://www.linuxquestions.org forum
http://www.justlinux.com forum and some guides
http://www.google.com/linux/ google for linux related search results

rkilpatrickii
November 6th, 2003, 06:08 PM
I just started using Knoppix 3.2 and really like it so far. I was wonder if I could download AIM (AOL Instant Messaganer) or Trillian for it? Also is there a way to download window programs to it?

Thanks I will probly be asking more questions soon.

I want to say that Knoppix is just for beginners, but it can be used by hackers from time to time.

I have newest versions of Red Hat, Mandrake, and SuSE, and can't remember witch ones or if all three of them support AIM. (I'm still trying to figure out how to install programs "outside to install disk that come with the OS's")

Anyways, I suggest you download Red Hat, or go out and spend $30 for a full install version of SuSE or Mandrake.

If you don't want to get rid of your Windows OS, setting up a dual boot system is doable, you are going to have to spend an hour reading though. If I had to do it for the first time again, I would say Red Hat is the hardest to install.

You can also get a free copy of SuSE with "SuSE for Dumbies" I know because I own it.

rkilpatrickii
November 6th, 2003, 06:14 PM
I don't know a whole lot about linux, but am interested in learning, so where would be the place to do that?


[B]knoppix baby

FrozenShadow23
November 6th, 2003, 06:27 PM
Knoppix fans eh? I'm not big on that distro, I prefer Mandrake by far. try it with a dual boot, which isn't THAT hard. Also, watch out for installing wine using your actuall windows partition. It CAN do this, but if you mess up, there goes your windows OS unless you can repair it. Heh, good luck doing that. I suggest making a fully "emulated" (I know, it's not really an emulator) Windows drive on one of your linux partitions. I'm not much of a pro with Linux, but these things I have found out through experience... Not fun screwing up your windows partition if you NEED windows.

/me wishes for linux ports of Macromedia's software

Arcade_Man
February 15th, 2004, 05:30 PM
How To Install Wine On Suse Linux 9.0

Arcade_Man
February 15th, 2004, 05:32 PM
Help Installing Wine Plz

shawners
February 15th, 2004, 05:37 PM
sad thing about people who use linux is, that they dont know that if the WHOLE world switched operating systems to linux.. Linux would be plagued with much virus and worms then Microsoft. The whole reason to make worms and virus towards microsoft is that they have so many people using it, so it would cause the most havoc and reach the most people.

reductionist
February 22nd, 2004, 03:09 PM
sad thing about people who use linux is, that they dont know that if the WHOLE world switched operating systems to linux.. Linux would be plagued with much virus and worms then Microsoft. ...

Nonsense.

Windows is easier to infect with simple scripts than any other OS I've ever seen.

(Suppose this could, of course, be down to the cluelessness of the average Win User.)

Malicious Intent
February 22nd, 2004, 03:24 PM
cluelessness
You make it sound like Windows users are stupid. Don't forget that most Windows users aren't interested in how it all works as long as it does the job that they expect it to do.
You wouldn't blame a car driver if a virus took over that when they don't know mechanics, or a home owner if a virus could infect the plumbing.

ducttapeBigSexy
February 22nd, 2004, 04:02 PM
Although WINE is nice as a transition from Windows to Linux, I'd recommend just using open-source software that's both for Windows and Linux. Sure, at first it might be a little difficult to get used to something new, but down the road you will hit a lot less problems (emulation isn't 100%).

For messanging, I'd highly recommend GAIM (http://gaim.sourceforge.net), as everyone else did. I use it both in Windows and Linux, and I love it.

For browsers, use FireFox (www.mozilla.org) - it's an awesome browser and supports all platforms.

Digispeed03
February 22nd, 2004, 05:39 PM
I ran a Red Hat 9 box throughout last summer and I would definitely recommend http://www.linux.org. A multi-page tutorial is available at the site and it showcases commonly used commands to expedite everyday tasks. Secondarily, the Red Hat 9 bible by Christopher Negus is AWESOME, especially when it comes time to work with Samba (linux/Windows networking) and multimedia. I couldn't get the drivers for my NVidia GeForce 4 MX installed for the life of me until I read the appropriate section of the "bible." Last, but not least, PLEASE try to lean upon .rpm packages for your initial program/app installs. Tarballs (".tar") are hellishly irritating for beginners, especially with dependency issues. Freshmeat.org is a good source for rpms. It took me 14 days to get a fully functioning, i.e. Ogle DVD, Xine DVD, 3D drivers, apps, GKrellm (check it!), etc. up and running with no issues. Enjoy your foray into open source!