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paulc
September 11th, 2003, 03:16 AM
Hi,

I'm a drum n bass/electronic music producer living in England. I've written music professionally for DVDs such as 'The Matrix: Revisited' and have been releasing music freely & legally on internet music sites for a few years.

Recently I've been working with a new website which makes music available legally on P2P, initially focusing on the ED2K network. At the moment there are tracks written by myself and another UK based artist called 'Stompp', and in the coming weeks there will be more artists added.

From my point of view as a music producer, P2P is an incredibly powerful way to get music to the fans, and whilst there is a great deal of controversy about illegal music sharing, I find it surprising that so few artists have tried to take advantage of P2P for their own benefit.

In England there has been a great deal of hype about piracy destroying the music idustry, but the truth is that for essentially unknown artists like myself, making music available for free is the best way to promote our work.

If you want to check out the site here is the link:

KDO Music (http://www.kdomusic.com)

As the site has just launched there are not that many sources for the files, but this will improve as people start sharing :) If you want direct download mirrors to help us share the music quicker, or have any questions about the site, please email me.

Regards,

Paul C
KDO Music (http://www.kdomusic.com)
eggdisk@hotmail.com

Winphuk
September 11th, 2003, 03:32 AM
Looks great! YOu have the right idea. Welcome to Zeropaid.

Pebbles100
September 11th, 2003, 03:35 AM
I'm a huge fan of electronic music. There are a few others who release their albums free of charge - AC Seven...DJ Doboy. I can't think of anyone else at this moment who does this. Without p2p networks, I would have no clue who these artists are. I'm definetely going to check out your site! Thanks for the link.

paulc
September 11th, 2003, 04:28 AM
Thanks for the positive replies.

You might get hardly any sources at the moment, so sorry if you go there now and can't get anything immediately. The situation should improve soon hopefully.

Yes I agree that P2P can introduce you to many artists who you wouldn't normally think about to listening to. Personally I have bought albums from bands like Faith No More right after hearing a couple of downloaded songs:)

There are some great dnb artists who allow people who to get their music for free. My favourite is a friend fo mine, Simon V, who has released music 'professionally' on vinyl labels, but has also kept to his 'scene' roots by making stuff free on his site.

-Paul C
KDO Music (http://www.kdomusic.com)

Pebbles100
September 11th, 2003, 07:53 AM
I will definitely check Simon V out. It's hard for me to purchase actual cd's, since most of the music that I like are Euro imports. They can run anywhere from $35-$55 [USD].

I'm always looking for new & different stuff. I try to keep individual folders of the music genre - such as d&b, house, trance, etc. so people can pick according to what they like to hear. It's a bit easier that way. I think its great that you communicate with people - such as you are doing now. I will keep checking back on your site, as you update it more. It's good to know that there are artists still staying true to the scene. Thanks for the info :)

Rickio
September 11th, 2003, 02:36 PM
thanks paulc for posting.

I'll download your music as well.

Perhaps you can have links to other artists who share music for free. Just a idea.


peace

tamarisk
September 11th, 2003, 08:13 PM
Here are albums from my country.

They are good but most of them lack a record contract.

http://merchant.di-ve.com/diveseller/page30.html

On google you can find there respective pages to learn more about them.

Beangrowers, Wintermoods and Screamdaisy are the bands that had the greates success.

Toby is good for electronic music lovers.

paulc
September 11th, 2003, 11:29 PM
Originally posted by Rickio
Perhaps you can have links to other artists who share music for free. Just a idea.


Yes that's something we should add. Also we will be releasing more mp3s from artists who specifically want their stuff on KDO.

Originally posted by tamarisk
Here are albums from my country.

They are good but most of them lack a record contract.


Thanks for the link I'll check that out.

One thing that helped me with my music was when I realised I didn't need a record contract to license music. The best thing about music licensing companies is that they accept unsolicited mail :)

Here's a couple of links regarding licensing:

MPA (UK) (http://www.mpaonline.org.uk/)
MPA (USA) (http://www.mpa.org)

Something else I'll add to the KDO site is a tutorial on why licensing is good for unsigned artists, and how it actually works:)

Paul C
KDO Music (http://www.kdomusic.com)

dog_spawn
September 13th, 2003, 05:58 AM
Originally posted by tamarisk
Here are albums from my country.They are good but most of them lack a record contract.
Is there any way I can listen to their music for free, like a preview or something?

tamarisk
September 13th, 2003, 06:08 AM
you can try searching on google, for there websites.

Wintermoods = www.wintermoods.net
ScreamDaisy = www.screamdaisy.net

for other music bands from my country visit

1)http://golocal.mp3.com/gir/?genre_id=0&geo_id=00001122
2) http://www.searchmalta.com/dir/Arts_And_Entertainment/Music/index.shtml
3) try searching with google for their respective websites

Gubbins
September 13th, 2003, 07:54 AM
I've got the tracks from your site - Rest assured I'll be sharing these.

Good D&B needs to be released again! Good stuff!

dog_spawn
September 13th, 2003, 07:58 AM
@Pebbles100
That is a ridiculous price. Is that due to them charging too much or is it import tax etc?

If KDO ever sells CDs and vinyls we will sell them to cover running costs, ie as cheap as possible.

@Gubbins

Cheers!

@tamarisk

Yeah... I think I'll have the links rather than having to search in google... *sigh*

I downloaded the tracks from Wintermoods. They were good but I'm not really into that type of music.

I couldn't find how to download the music from Screamdaisy.

Pebbles100
September 15th, 2003, 10:53 AM
Dog spawn -

It's the import tax & shipping costs. For the most part, I can't go down to my local record shop and simply buy albums I like. The majority of them need to be specially ordered through the net. After all the garbage added on top of the CD, a $16 album could easily be around 30-35. Many of them are double cd's, which will usually cost around 35-50.

mojo-ris-in
September 19th, 2003, 08:09 PM
Originally posted by paulc
Hi,

I'm a drum n bass/electronic music producer living in England. I've written music professionally for DVDs such as 'The Matrix: Revisited' and have been releasing music freely & legally on internet music sites for a few years.

Recently I've been working with a new website which makes music available legally on P2P, initially focusing on the ED2K network. At the moment there are tracks written by myself and another UK based artist called 'Stompp', and in the coming weeks there will be more artists added.

From my point of view as a music producer, P2P is an incredibly powerful way to get music to the fans, and whilst there is a great deal of controversy about illegal music sharing, I find it surprising that so few artists have tried to take advantage of P2P for their own benefit.

In England there has been a great deal of hype about piracy destroying the music idustry, but the truth is that for essentially unknown artists like myself, making music available for free is the best way to promote our work.

If you want to check out the site here is the link:

KDO Music (http://www.kdomusic.com)

As the site has just launched there are not that many sources for the files, but this will improve as people start sharing :) If you want direct download mirrors to help us share the music quicker, or have any questions about the site, please email me.

Regards,

Paul C
KDO Music (http://www.kdomusic.com)
eggdisk@hotmail.com

Wow an artist that gets it. The recording industry is a pariah on musicians and has been for quite some time so it makes me smile that artists are learning that the internet is a tremendous way to get yourself heard. You create a following and down the line that following will create income opportunities for you that potentially will eclipse anything the recording industry can offer and the best thing is you don't have to pay the fatcats anything. Everything you make is yours which is the way it should be.

Best of luck to you and please keep us updated as to how things are going for you. I think people here will enjoy hearing your story as it progresses. I will definitely be on the lookout for your music.

tMoD
September 19th, 2003, 09:18 PM
Thank you for doing this, paulc. If efforts like yours prove successful it might just be the dawn of a new era of self-sufficiency for artists.

Promo
September 22nd, 2003, 05:20 AM
I guess this is one of the great things about p2p by allowing people to promote themselves to a wide range of people.

paulc
September 28th, 2003, 05:34 AM
The main problems for our site at the moment are to do with bandwidth and distributing files. P2P is really useful, but because I am sharing files at roughly 16k a second upload, it takes a while for them to spread. There are a few more sources but obviously when I add new music it's totally reliant on my cable connection:)

We were planning on getting a server for web and file hosting from rackshack.net at the start of October but it appears they've sold out.

Another thing I was considering is getting a faster home connetion, but in the UK the prices are somewhat excessive - 2MBps upload costs £380 (~$630) a month.

If anyone has any links to decent unmanaged hosting (that allow .net and MySql) or any advice at all it would be appreciated.

Something else that you might find interesting-

I'm a member of the Performing Right Society (the UK version of ASCAP, BMI etc), and every so often they send out a magazine. The last one I received contains on article on KaZaA, and it caught my attention because the PRS write incredible amounts of BS about P2P. They write articles assuming that all P2P software is illegal and all the users should go to jail, as if it's a forgone conclusion that P2P will eventually be stopped.

I've emailed the magazine about KDO and how P2P helps PRS members who aren't signed to major record labels. I'm not expecting any reply though:)

-Paul C
KDO Music (http://www.kdomusic.com)

dog_spawn
October 11th, 2003, 07:36 PM
The main problems for our site at the moment are to do with bandwidth and distributing files

This totally cool guy at www.serverhit.com (http://www.serverhit.com) has provided a fast file mirror for free. How cool is that?

Anyway there is some more music up (now in OGG format by popular demand) and if you can't get it via ED2K, just direct download it :)

Jesuszilla is a new artist, he's pretty cool. I quote from the site: "Computer music artist Jesuszilla from England combines Trip Hop with electric guitar, influenced by bands like Paradise Lost and Faith No More."

Click here for Jesuszilla's page (http://www.kdomusic.com/?viewarticle=jesuszilla).

If you do direct download, pls copy the music into ur shared folder.