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FutureIverson
September 10th, 2003, 04:33 PM
Well today it was funny, im the only sophomore in my journalism class, and last yr i was the only freshmen, so it's a tough road. I turned in a story idea about the Subpoenas.

One editor goes why print this.
Then a small discussion starts on it.
It's sad that no one knew shit...
How do you get sued, do they steal ur kazaa username
Is the kazaa ppl selling us out

I cooly said, no "they have scanners that obtain your IP and use them to get your IP address, they contact your isp like comcast, and they give them your address and etc. The isp's tried to fight it but, are forced to give them up.

"I think Jordan should right this story" the head editor said..., I got right to work...

I know earlier my advisor (teacher) didn't want to print it, but we talked her into it. You guys can post idea's for my story here. It'll probably print October 10th or so...

FreakinWeasel
September 10th, 2003, 04:57 PM
Hey how about some of the more positve aspects of P2P. Say from a artist who likes using the medium as an avenue to expose people to his or her brand of music. Pepper that with some of the studies that have shown filesharers still buy lots of music, even though they are sharing. So instead of the same tired RIAA rheotoric spin the positves. Good Luck and conrgats on your story.

Caitlyn Marble
September 10th, 2003, 05:07 PM
talk about how artists like radiohead, blur, and interpol like p2p.
(I don't know where to find the radiohead and interpol interviews, but Blur's own words are on thier site blur.co.uk , in the Q&A section. You may have to spend some time there sifting though 300 stupid questions just to find the four about mp3 downloading)

talk about how its the only way to find obsure CD's at an affordable price. (if you want a example, look at Graham Coxon's Kiss of Morning CD at amazon, its like 30$, on import)

be sure to mention the CD's with only one good song, and how the RIAA has been price fixing for years.

http://www.janisian.com/article-internet_debacle.html
that is an excellent source of how an artist is benfiting from p2p.

http://www.peak.sfu.ca/the-peak/2002-1/issue4/ciggyburns.html
this is another excellent article on how your money is given to some lard assed record company, rather than the artist

Theinfamousone
September 10th, 2003, 05:09 PM
You could talk about how much money Sony makes through CD-R sales, CD/DVD burners, and the slew of other hardware appliances which make lots more money than their CD recording department. You could also point out the fact that the MPAA made more money last year than ever and yet they still whine about "piracy". You could also mention the differences between the pirate rings that make mass productions of CDs and sell them for $5 each and the casual 12 year olds that are being sued for downloading eminem.

Caitlyn Marble
September 10th, 2003, 05:13 PM
its good to see p2p getting some positive press, lately its been "oh, its stealing!" "oh, its wrong!" "oh, I'm sorry! I never knew it was bad!" "make sure your kids aren't comming copyright infingement! or else!"

I'm really starting to hate CBS.

I'm sure you'll do a good job, nothing like being a p2p missionary!

tMoD
September 10th, 2003, 05:24 PM
Congratulations, dude.

aqlo
September 10th, 2003, 05:40 PM
That is great future, you already know so much about it all, they will get a great story. It will probably be good to talk about Brianna because she's a kid, by the time that you have to get it done there will probably be a couple more individual stories that will also be appealing.

Make people understand about how it would feel to pay for something that's really free that automatically shares stuff whether the person knows about it or not, and then get in trouble for supposedly stealing stuff that you then have to pay for but don't get to keep, if you can.

CaptainMorgan
September 10th, 2003, 07:48 PM
Congratulations!! I hope this is your big break.

(I am not a Journalist!)

I don't know what premise you pitched to your editor, but here is a story I would like to read in the press.

-- Framework --
Common Anticdote - to capture reader's self interest in the story
Facts about Reader's Current Rights - to show what is really legal now
Empathetic Anticdote - Someone like the reader who is directly impacted
Issues - Who is arguing for change, against whom, why
Irony - Newspapers relation to some of the issues.
Dangers - Using intimidation to set legal precedent
Actions - What should the reader do, Immediatly after reading your story.

-- Common Anticdote --
I sit here listening to internet radio as I do every day.

Radio Paradise (http://radioparadice.com/) for you who were wondering.

Currently, I'm listening to: Michael Franti & Spearhead - Pray For Grace
I like this song, and I recorded it yesterday.

Before that came: Gomez - Shot Shot
I didn't like that much so I didn't record it.

Before that came: Cake - Italian Leather Sofa
I really like this song, but I didn't record it.

Question:
Can I record, Cake - Italian Leather Sofa, Now? Eventhough it is not playing?

It's just a simple technical problem. TIVO lets me do this on TV.
Is this legal or illegal.
I don't have TIVO for Radio Paradise. Can I use LimeWire?
Is this legal or illegal.

When my wife gets home, she would like to play: Michael Franti & Spearhead - Pray For Grace, and Cake - Italian Leather Sofa, because she couldn't listen while at work. I know that time shifting is "fair-use" and currently legal under current laws. I told her I would record them. For her.

Yesterday, I told her that I would fold the clothes as soon as they were dry. I forgot to do it when the drier finished. (real time) But I did it before she noticed the next morning. (store and forward) I don't think, I broke any laws by forgetting and then fixing my mistake in that case.

-- Facts about Reader's Current Rights --

Original Post here (http://www.zeropaid.com/bbs/showthread.php?s=&threadid=14453&perpage=15&pagenumber=4)
Another way an alleged file trader might succeed in defending a lawsuit is by relying on the 1992 Audio Home Recording Act (AHRA), which could provide some form of legal immunization for peer-to-peer users. Napster unsuccessfully invoked the AHRA when the music industry sued it into oblivion, but courts might be more sympathetic to individual users, some legal experts believe.

The law says no lawsuit may be brought that alleges copyright infringement based on the "noncommercial use by a consumer of such a (digital audio recording device) or medium for making digital musical recordings." The latest generation of multimedia PCs that are equipped with CD and DVD burners may qualify as a digital audio recording device, the thinking goes, which would mean the AHRA applies.

Jessica Litman, a law professor at Wayne State University who testified before Congress when the AHRA was being debated, said it's "an argument I'd expect to see made, and it's possible that it will succeed.

"It's absolutely clear from the legislative history that Congress' attempt at the time was to protect all noncommercial forms of music copying, period. Consumers were exempt from making noncommercial copies of digital or analog music recordings...The argument hasn't been made since (Napster), but there hasn't been a consumer in front of the court. With a consumer in front of the court, the argument becomes significantly more compelling."

-- Empathetic Anticdote --
I would use the 12 year old girl in this case and her poor mother who was duped into paying for otherwise free software as well.

References are all over the net.

-- Issues --
Short section about the RIAA and "their issues". This has been done to death, so keep it short.

-- Irony --
Changes this will cause in your chosen career's industry and why you are for them. Make a good argument from inevitability here.

-- Dangers --
There are three ways to extend law:
1) Legislatively through congress passing new laws. This is very good in cases where there are fundamentally new issues. Like digital copyright.
2) Due Process legal action. Precedent setting. This is good when the issues are reasonably analogous to existing law. Unlike this situation which is fundamentally different. This is what the RIAA is pretending to do. It is a "red herring"
3) Prejudice the minds of the people. People's actions are determined by what they believe the law is, not what the law actually is. It is also determined by what they believe is good. Juries are made of people. People set precedent. The RIAA is bullying people saying things are illegal that are clearly not illegal. They are also repeating a false mantra claiming, 'good' things that are clearly currently legal, are both bad and illegal. This is a clear attempt to prejudice the minds of perspective jurors for the Due Process cases that will follow.

-- Actions --
Have them tell everyone they know about their current rights under law.
Contact their representatives to put a stop to the hijacking of due process. Clip this article copy it 50 times and mail it to everyone you know.

Again, I am not a journalist. I am here to manipulate you.

CaptainMorgan

Please, when it is published, post a link her so that we can pirate it. Arrr, Arrr, Arrg *irony*

DigitalJunkie
September 10th, 2003, 11:18 PM
Most are just bunch of kids & young adults stealing? Trading, is more like it! Those kids & young adults are their BEST customers that buys music today!

horsemen
September 11th, 2003, 02:02 AM
It's nice to know if you don't make it in hoops,You have something good to fallback on. It's one for you...:fire :fire :fire :fire

FutureIverson
September 11th, 2003, 11:38 AM
Originally posted by horsemen
It's nice to know if you don't make it in hoops,You have something good to fallback on. It's one for you...:fire :fire :fire :fire

lol thanks horseman, our school has about 1,200 kids and about 300-400 alums recieve the paper via mail so im just hoping I can get all my ideas out without stating the obvious. I know theres atleast a couple hundred of kids at my school who are on kazaa and don't know anything about subpoenas.

shawners
September 11th, 2003, 12:43 PM
Originally posted by Theinfamousone
You could talk about how much money Sony makes through CD-R sales, CD/DVD burners, and the slew of other hardware appliances which make lots more money than their CD recording department. You could also point out the fact that the MPAA made more money last year than ever and yet they still whine about "piracy". You could also mention the differences between the pirate rings that make mass productions of CDs and sell them for $5 each and the casual 12 year olds that are being sued for downloading eminem.

Are you emplying that BMG, TIME WARNER, UNIVERSAL should make cd burners and dvd burners and software to do it on ?? WOW THey could generate MILLIONS.. oh but they could sue millions. I think it be a good idea=)

a n n e x i a
September 12th, 2003, 06:50 AM
congratulations! i think it cool that your asking for feedback

Maybe a good topic could be to talk about the repercussions of shutting down p2p networks; what would happen if the bigs corportations stop the development of new technology because its bad for their business? who is going to control this?

I think there is a lot being said about music files and copywright stuff that takes us away from a bigger subject: what about the tecnologhy thats being put on the spotlight? whats next? regulating internet speeds?Should the world stand still because somebody isnt making as much money as they used to? Shouldnt these companys come up we better ideas rather than bringning the world into a technological stand still?

What really scares me is the power these companys have to censure what ever is not right for their buisness.

FutureIverson
September 15th, 2003, 07:57 PM
The Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) who has launched its campaign to sue every one who shares copyrighted music on the internet. The RIAA has already issued over 1,600 subpoenas to people ranging from a 12 year old girl, to a 71 year old grandfather. Their claiming they can sue you for over 20,000 each song
The RIAA is hired by most of the mainstream labels such as Shady/Aftermath, Interscope, and Epic to protect artist rights.
The RIAA has bots that share fake files and movies. This is done to discourage people from downloading copyrighted files. As of now the bots are only on Kazaa, however it’s sued people on over 10 file sharing programs.
The RIAA claims even if you bought the CD, making it free to others is illegal.
In 2002 the RIAA scanned the IP of a person sharing over 20 gigabytes of music; they contacted his Internet Service Provider (ISP) Verizon for his information. Although Verizon claimed they don’t support his actions, they stated that it is against their privacy policy to reveal the man’s information. The RIAA took Verizon to court, and to most people surprise won; now every Internet Service Provider has to give the RIAA the Name, Address and other information needed to file a subpoena, of the person the RIAA caught sharing.
As of now, by just downloading, you can be safe from the RIAA since they can only track the uploading of files, however by doing so (leeching) P2P will obviously die.
The MPAA is similar to the RIAA but they are for the movie industry, if you’ve been to a theatre lately, they plead, “The actors aren’t the only one getting paid and by downloading movies, they also lose money.” When I saw this I wondered why Ben Affleck can’t take a 1 million dollar pay cut, to cover those losses.
Rather than subpoenaing users, the MPAA has just asked the ISP to contact the user and warns if you continue to share and download copyrighted movies, they will terminate your internet access.
A middle ground seems to be, pay for song sites like Itunes, however buying cd’s is ridiculous now since, a CD maybe has 2 or 3 good songs now.
Several people now boycott artist under the RIAA’s protection, and since CD sales have dropped around 20 percent. This does little good, since the RIAA just complains more about their losses.
An advanced users can use the new program Earthstation 5 and obtain a proxy list from Earthstation’s forums, with these proxies, your IP address is encrypted and it is impossible for the RIAA to obtain your IP address unless they host the proxy. If they do host a proxy to catch someone, it is entrapment and it would be interesting to see who a court would favor in that case.
The RIAA adds to their new list of sued users every two weeks, when the next one is out, will someone from Bellevue be on that list?


It needs work but I have to write about 4 or 5 more drafts any ideas

aqlo
September 15th, 2003, 08:06 PM
That's perfect content Future. You will want to go in and dot your ts and so forth like you said but you have the story. You have a lead paragraph with all the wwwwwhoes and you have a body of content with comparative viewpoints. Do you need to get larger or smaller?

Keep in mind that an editor will clip your last paragraph to fit things in, I would go longer don't you think

:mellow

Oh fine here is what I mean

The Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) has launched its campaign to sue every one who shares copyrighted music on the internet. The RIAA has already issued over 1,600 subpoenas to people ranging from a 12 year old girl, to a 71 year old grandfather. They're claiming they can sue you for over 20,000 for each song!

The RIAA is hired by most of the mainstream labels such as Shady/Aftermath, Interscope, and Epic to protect artist rights.

The RIAA has bots that share fake files and movies. This is done to discourage people from downloading copyrighted files.

As of now the bots are only on Kazaa, however it’s sued people on over 10 file sharing programs. The RIAA claims even if you bought the CD, making it free to others is illegal.

In 2002 the RIAA scanned the IP of a person sharing over 20 gigabytes of music; they contacted his Internet Service Provider (ISP) Verizon for his information. Although Verizon claimed they don’t support his actions, they stated that it is against their privacy policy to reveal the man’s information. The RIAA took Verizon to court, and to most people surprise won; now every Internet Service Provider has to give the RIAA the Name, Address and other information needed to file a subpoena, of the person the RIAA caught sharing.

As of now, by just downloading, you can be safe from the RIAA since they can only track the uploading of files, however by doing so (leeching) P2P will obviously die. But advanced users can use the new program Earthstation 5 and obtain a proxy list from Earthstation’s forums, with these proxies, your IP address is encrypted and it is impossible for the RIAA to obtain your IP address unless they host the proxy. If they do host a proxy to catch someone, it is entrapment and it would be interesting to see who a court would favor in that case.

The MPAA is similar to the RIAA but they are for the movie industry, if you’ve been to a theatre lately, they plead, “The actors aren’t the only one getting paid and by downloading movies, they also lose money.” When I saw this I wondered why Ben Affleck can’t take a 1 million dollar pay cut, to cover those losses.

Rather than subpoenaing users, the MPAA has just asked the ISP to contact the user and warns if you continue to share and download copyrighted movies, they will terminate your internet access.

A middle ground seems to be, pay for song sites like Itunes, however buying cd’s is ridiculous now since, a CD maybe has 2 or 3 good songs now.

Several people now boycott artist under the RIAA’s protection, and since CD sales have dropped around 20 percent. This does little good, since the RIAA just complains more about their losses.

The RIAA adds to their new list of sued users every two weeks, when the next one is out, will someone from Bellevue be on that list?

Talk about puttin things in someone's mouth ;)