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Anonymous Proxy
September 9th, 2003, 12:56 PM
I have a few questions concerning Brianna LaHara, the curly-haired 12-year-old honor student who started seventh grade yesterday, and was sued by the RIAA for copyright infringement.

How did they get her name? Wouldn't the ISP be in her mother's name?

Wasn't there a law passed a couple of years ago, forbidding the personal information of minors from being shared as a result of internet use?

If so, couldn't that law be used to countersue the RIAA?

Does Brianna LaHara actually exist, or is she a rapidly spreading urban legend?

Ken17625
September 9th, 2003, 01:31 PM
This would have been a much more compelling, or at least relevent question had it been posted............

http://www.zeropaid.com/bbs/showthread.php?threadid=14515

In this thread.

FutureIverson
September 9th, 2003, 01:44 PM
yeah you should have just posted where u saw the post, in jelsoft's thrad. People will see your ideas and post without you making a whole new thread.

Anonymous Proxy
September 9th, 2003, 05:10 PM
Oops sorry bout that.

Got the link to an article on the 12 year old girl story from a thread that didn't concern it, so I came here looking for a place to post.

I should have looked for the thread to the actual story first though, right?

Give me time. I'll catch on.

Thanks for the tip.

Ken17625
September 9th, 2003, 05:42 PM
Oops sorry bout that.

Got the link to an article on the 12 year old girl story from a thread that didn't concern it, so I came here looking for a place to post.

I should have looked for the thread to the actual story first though, right?

Give me time. I'll catch on.

Thanks for the tip.

Ahhh don't worry about it.


In any case, this whole situation seems odd. I read some of the supposed "quotes" in the other thread from the child and parent. The comments seemed so emotionless and manufactured (kinda like RIAA sponsored music).

It seemed phony somehow, but I can't quite make the leap from conspiracy theory to fact I suppose.

Anonymous Proxy
September 9th, 2003, 07:33 PM
I think I got all the answers to my questions at an article posted here:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/ap/20030910/ap_en_bu/downloading_music&e=5

Apparently the RIAA slipped over to Brianna's and forced a quick $2,000 settlement.

They got lucky. It could have been ugly.

I wonder if Brianna's mom knows she could have probably gotten the RIAA to give her $2,000 to settle.

Anonymous Proxy
September 10th, 2003, 06:30 AM
Nah I'm not RIAA. The RIAA would explain themselves better.

I'm not saying Brianna got off lucky paying $2000. I'm saying the RIAA got off lucky settling the case, and not having to take it to court.

Can you imagine what could have happened? A little curly-haired 12 year old honors student in thick glasses, comes walking out of court, and is met by an army of media. The RIAA would look like the legions of Beezlebub. Talk about loosing credibility.

That's why I said, if Brianna's mom had held on, she could have probably got the RIAA to pay her to shut up.

The RIAA screwed up, and they got off lucky.

I was hoping it would go to court. Brianna could have become an icon. A flag flown for the pro filesharing movement.

As far as, are you paranoid for thinking some Zeropaid forum users might have an RIAA agenda. I can't dis you for thinking that. I sometimes wonder about the same thing.

I only recently started posting here, but I've read the forums for some time. I can't help noticing, a lot more pro RIAA posts have been turning up lately. You have to ask why someone opposed to filesharing would go to the effort of registering on a pro filesharing forum.

By the way. You owe me a buck.

aqlo
September 10th, 2003, 01:20 PM
Christ he isn't RIAA.

We are going to have to do something about this.

whitmark
September 12th, 2003, 10:04 AM
"How do you sue a 12 year old girl?" Keep in mind your dealing with people who would pimp their own mothers if there was enough money in it.

Digital Bliss
September 12th, 2003, 10:28 AM
It may sound weird but I am glad they are suing the child they are just adding more fuel to the fire. People wont stand for this type of injustice, will they? I hope they sue more defenseless people because it will show them for nazis bastards they really are. If they sued me shit what and how would they get 500,000,000 off me lmao? The reason I file share is because of the fact that I can not aford over priced media. Don't get me wrong but if I could aford the shit I would be more then happy to buy it on a personal level. Times are changing and in the same since what about tape recorders and vcrs those devices use the same concept of p2p since its free go figgure .

shawners
September 12th, 2003, 12:39 PM
You find a pattern of a 12 year old child you like.. and you place it under the needle of a sueing machine.. Riaa makes great sueing machines.. Anyways.. You kick your foot down on a peddle and you stitch it together til he or she promises not to download again.

Empire
September 12th, 2003, 01:22 PM
Does anyone have access to the actual lawsuit itself?

I've yet to see WHO was actually named. That would clear up a log of questions.

Kooperman
September 12th, 2003, 01:28 PM
I think it was actually the girl. I saw one article yesterday which quoted the RIAA as not knowing how her name ended up on the lawsuit. I'll see if I can find it again. Obviously it was the mother's account. The list of those sued which I posted in the RIAA forum doesn't have anyone with that last name. It could be that hers had already been removed.

Kooperman
September 12th, 2003, 01:45 PM
Apparently it was indeed the little girl who was sued. Of course, we know that the RIAA thinks their mission is above the law, so I guess they can do stuff like that.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,96797,00.html

Anonymous Proxy
September 12th, 2003, 02:08 PM
My guess is the mother had a debt with the phone company. She probably took another account out in her daughter's name. I've seen poor people do that. The phone company was probably her ISP.

Xtaycee_n_your_coffee
September 12th, 2003, 03:36 PM
I think it's a RIAA set up. How the heck you start wanting to sue for each song starting at $150,000 dollars, and settle for 2,000? Then the little girl was in Public Housing . And If the mother did put it in her name, I don't think she liable. You have to be 18 to sign the agreement. I seen cases where parents put cell phones and credit cards in there child(ren) name and then when it comes time to pay, they tell the company that the child is 18, so they won't have to pay the company. Most companies today just need a name and Social Security number just to start anything. And that is sad.

anotherjustme
September 14th, 2003, 06:51 PM
Originally posted by Xtaycee_n_your_coffee
I think it's a RIAA set up. How the heck you start wanting to sue for each song starting at $150,000 dollars, and settle for 2,000?

To set a pecedence... After couple of those evety lawsuit will be based on this kind of rulling...

It hac nothing to do with peofit or justise... RIAA doesn't wan'r to go to court, because they are affraid that they might loose, so now now... thay are gaining some more arguments...

freeloaders
September 14th, 2003, 08:20 PM
maybe she was using netzero
anyone at any age could join netzero/juno

anotherjustme
September 18th, 2003, 05:45 AM
Originally posted by freeloaders
maybe she was using netzero
anyone at any age could join netzero/juno
What about netzero... can you clarify?