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PuNiShErKiLl666
September 9th, 2003, 10:50 AM
I know there has been threads simular to this.. but this is diffrent.
Im not telling you what to do to protest the Riaa. I was wondering what is there that we can do? I mean if we just sit back and keep downloading normally we will most likely get sued. We can not share files, but the Riaa just gets what they want. We cant shoot (Or I wish we could) Riaa execs so that is outa question.
The only thing you could really do is not buy Cds, but other people still buy Cd's and it wont make much of a diffrence..
So are we screwed?
Kooperman
September 9th, 2003, 10:56 AM
Yoda, there are any number of threads that discuss what to do. This thread is well beneath even your usual.........you can do better.
PuNiShErKiLl666
September 9th, 2003, 11:00 AM
Yeah... I just had to stop p2ping for awhile because I dont need my parents getting sued.. so Im kinda pissed about this. So I wana find ways I can kill the RIAA.
I could Rape that Corey Sherman guy....
Kooperman
September 9th, 2003, 11:02 AM
Originally posted by Yodashady
Yeah... I just had to stop p2ping for awhile because I dont need my parents getting sued.. so Im kinda pissed about this. So I wana find ways I can kill the RIAA.
Hmmmmm...perhaps gaining employment with them would accomplish that.....
PuNiShErKiLl666
September 9th, 2003, 11:05 AM
Then I could get closer to raping Corey Sherman?
jonnymnemonic
September 9th, 2003, 11:07 AM
That's it, we should all go to work for them and simply be as lame and incompetent as we can be, advise them to sue 12-year-olds, that kind of thing. Hey, waitaminute, maybe some of us ARE working for them! ;)
PuNiShErKiLl666
September 9th, 2003, 11:12 AM
I just got a job there, Janitor, the only bad part is when hillary goes in and takes a crap.............. errrr
Good pay though
squirm
September 9th, 2003, 11:16 AM
That will hurt them the most. But if you do buy CD's purchase used ones. I actually can't believe anyone would even buy new since it's so easy to buy used ones on half.com or somewhere. Than when your done, copy it, and resell it.
PuNiShErKiLl666
September 9th, 2003, 11:49 AM
Yeah tonight Im gonna jump corey in the bathroom!
ddmikebb
September 11th, 2003, 09:50 AM
Dont like what the RIAA is doing? Send an email to the CEO. Mitch Bainwol.
His email address is mbb@riaa.com
Tell *him* what you think.
shawners
September 11th, 2003, 10:01 AM
To change anything in governemt a series of events have to unfold. First of all, educating your kids to be open minded, and having them go to college to get great jobs. Because the RIAA is going to have to hire younger people from our generation, so they will eventually have to die off, taking their thinking with them. We moved towards Civil rights, Women rights, Gay rights to even get married... and now it be for file sharing rights. =)
IF DOWNLOADING IS WRONG, I dont want to be right!!!!
you can also send them this attachment down by the nickname shawners
http://www.zeropaid.com/bbs/showthread.php?threadid=14078
jonnymnemonic
September 11th, 2003, 10:16 AM
If all information becomes normally freely available to the common man, then we won't have any writers or photographers or musicians (at least studio musicians) or movies, because the financial incentive that keeps their numbers high would be gone. I mean, if technology comes along that allows computers to write software, thereby lowering the pay of programmers to $0 per year, how many people will pursue a career in programming? Not many. Maybe a few folks who really love to write software and don't particularly need money, but...
I guess we *could* go that route and hope that technology allows us to create AIs that can write good books, make good music, take good pictures, make good movies, but...well, that seems like a pretty remote possibility at this point. (Although a guy DID create software that DID write a book, using Valley Of The Dolls as its general plot outline - so who knows.)
rainbowdemon
September 11th, 2003, 10:23 AM
Originally posted by Kooperman
Hmmmmm...perhaps gaining employment with them would accomplish that..... LMAO!!! I get the feeling that went right past him...lol
Then I could get closer to raping Corey Sherman?
FutureIverson
September 11th, 2003, 10:41 AM
most people say don't buy cd's but then they'll go to bitching about losing more and more money. So i think the best thing you can do is keep sharing. That'll fusturate them knowing were not intimidated.
anotherjustme
September 13th, 2003, 03:44 AM
Originally posted by jonnymnemonic
If all information becomes normally freely available to the common man, then we won't have any writers or photographers or musicians (at least studio musicians) or movies, because the financial incentive that keeps their numbers high would be gone. I mean, if technology comes along that allows computers to write software, thereby lowering the pay of programmers to $0 per year, how many people will pursue a career in programming? Not many. Maybe a few folks who really love to write software and don't particularly need money, but...
I guess we *could* go that route and hope that technology allows us to create AIs that can write good books, make good music, take good pictures, make good movies, but...well, that seems like a pretty remote possibility at this point. (Although a guy DID create software that DID write a book, using Valley Of The Dolls as its general plot outline - so who knows.)
Money, isn't the only driving force, for developement of new software.
Did you notice how many people is creating new and better programs every day? And yet it's free.
You seem it's in our nature to try and improve ourselves, or even just to show... "Yeah, I did it"
long time lurker
September 13th, 2003, 04:43 AM
hi, the answer is simple." boycott " they say there are over 6 million downloaders. if we can somehow get organized and set a date then let the riaa know that we are going to boycott them. if at least 3 million people go about 3-4 weeks without buying any kind of music they might get the message. or if a couple of big time bands release a new record nobody buy it for about a month. after all you already waited long enough for the new release whats another month. you cant lose. in order for them to sell they would have to lower their prices a lot. if the prices are low enough it would be worth it to buy the cd instead of taking forever to download it. and we can also tell them to drop the lawsuits or were not buying. but of course it would have to be organized. their is strength in numbers. just look universal drop their prices already without a boycott. just imagine what would be going on in hollywood if a major blockbuster movie was released and no one went to the movies that week..in big numbers we have the power over them.
jonnymnemonic
September 13th, 2003, 05:03 AM
The absolute best way to stick it to them would be to become a professional musician, but NEVER ask ANYONE for any money for your work, regardless of what it costs you in time and effort, and make sure it's very high-quality music. The more musicians out there willing to produce kickass stuff while expecting no reward, the worse the market will be for those who want to get paid for it.
(The same is true of all industries. Want cars cheaper and wanna stick it to the auto manufacturers? Build cars and give them away. Etc, etc.)
CaptainMorgan
September 13th, 2003, 05:39 AM
Originally posted by jonnymnemonic
If all information becomes normally freely available to the common man, then we won't have any writers or photographers or musicians (at least studio musicians) or movies, because the financial incentive that keeps their numbers high would be gone.
Jonny, I of course, respectfully disagree. I think the financial incentives will just shift position. The value is still there only the products will change. Hence, the thread on can musicians still make money.
In response to the original question:
What is there to do to get back at the riaa?
There IS something. I cannot tell you about it now. But, trust me, you will know it when you see it. I hate to "be all mysterious" about this, (I am not John Titor!) it is just that there are certain ethics involved in discussing it in this particular forum. It will become obvious why this is the case, next week.
Until then consider:
Assume hypothetically, I am a respected authority figure in my field, and I say, "Absolutely, unequivocally" and with conviction that the following things are true. Let's say that in six months all of these things WILL turn out to be true. Let's even say that you believe me.
The question to ponder is: "What would you do now, and for the next six months?"
originally me (stroke)
Prediction 1: Digital Copyright is dead within 6 months.
Prediction 2: "Dark Nets" will become increasingly interesting to the people on this site, but only for 6 months. Then no one will care.
Prediction 3: For the next 2 months, the media will become increasingly interested in "Dark Nets". Then they will cease to care.
Prediction 4: In approximately 2 months, media coverage will begin to shift from, "it's illegal arguments", to "it's inevitable arguments", to "it's a good thing arguments. This will all happen within 6 months.
Prediction 5: The "next wave of technology" will appear within 5 months.
Prediction 6: The "next wave of technology" will be public and not the least bit "Dark"
Prediction 7: In one year, no one will even be discussing the issues we have been thrashing in this forum. It will be as if you learned, "there is no Santa Clause". Most people wil think, "why did I ever think that? It was so obvious".
"Yet it does move." GG
jonnymnemonic
September 13th, 2003, 06:00 AM
I am intrigued by the mysterious nature of your post, which I realize as a mind-manipulator is something you wished to achieve, but even so. ;)
If the phrase "Yet it does move." is a clue, as it appears to be, I can guess at the news we're supposed to expect in the next week. If I am right, and if it does happen, that'd certainly be interesting. And I'd have no problem with it at all.
See, now *I* can appear mysterious too! *chuckle*
aqlo
September 13th, 2003, 06:14 AM
In the meantime please write letters to your idols. Get as many other people as you can to write letters too. Tell the people who have earned your musical respect and adulation about how many of their albums you have bought and how you wouldn't even have found them or learned to love them without peer-to-peer. Tell them the Man is now trying to turn off your magic radio. Ask them to help.
If the RIAA isn't doing the job they were hired to do then they need to get fired.
anotherjustme
September 13th, 2003, 09:26 AM
Originally posted by long time lurker
hi, the answer is simple." boycott " they say there are over 6 million downloaders. if we can somehow get organized and set a date then let the riaa know that we are going to boycott them. if at least 3 million people go about 3-4 weeks without buying any kind of music they might get the message. or if a couple of big time bands release a new record nobody buy it for about a month. after all you already waited long enough for the new release whats another month. you cant lose. in order for them to sell they would have to lower their prices a lot. if the prices are low enough it would be worth it to buy the cd instead of taking forever to download it. and we can also tell them to drop the lawsuits or were not buying. but of course it would have to be organized. their is strength in numbers. just look universal drop their prices already without a boycott. just imagine what would be going on in hollywood if a major blockbuster movie was released and no one went to the movies that week..in big numbers we have the power over them.
Someone already had an idea like that....
Originally posted by Raf111
Times do change, sometimes even for the better, but RIAA etc. still works only for the RICH.
Damn RIAA and such with their greedy pockets. They are fighting P2P sharing, like now sudenly people in the entertaiment industry are starving to death. It's not like they are losing money, they just make less now, and in my oppinion, they still make WAAAY too much. It's about the time for the "STARS" to come back down to the earth, become a regular human beeings again, and do some work for a change for their money, by concerting and doing other stuff like that, not writing one hit song, filling the rest of the CD with some junk, and just sit on their damn asses waiting for the millions to come. What they aren't human? Are they some kind of suprieme beeings, that have to be treated differently then the rest of the world? The world did let them, not all but many of them, become those "I'm-a-star-and-I-do-what-I-want-and-the-rules-don't-apply-to-me" type of people. Yes, it used to be like that, because we let them, only when we've created this "Rich rock star" image, there wasn't even internet. Like I said, times change, so that image should change too. Now internet exists and it's not gonna go away, so let's move forward, instead living in the past . The only thing that I can see that eventually may start loosing money,are the record labels. And guess what... again, Times change, record labels may become obsolete, but not all of them, there will always be a need for those, so few of them will remain. Why keep them all if there is no need for so many of them, it's not like they give hundred thousands of jobs to people. So why support someting what has become obsolete? It reminds me of the Airlines "live support" fiasko. I say "pull the plug" and let them die naturally.
You know what I'm thinking about the lawsuits against the public? You see durning the trial, there still is a jury. A jury made of regular people like us, and most of people are in favor, and support sharing community right? So who will convict anyone? Who will send a guy for 5 years to prison with a clear concience, when some murderers, rapists and child molelsters are getting less then that.
Hmmm... you see, the entertainment industry has organizations like RIAA fighting for them. Do we have somebody that fights for us, or we are only deffending ourselves when atacked.
Is RIAA right for trying to use "dirty tricks" like hire Hackers to break into user private PCs? They would be, but only if sharing files, would be considered immoral and plain wrong, but it's not (at least public seems to dissagree).
So if they will continue doing that, then you know what...I'M PLEADING TO ALL HACKERS OUT THERE THAT MIGHT HAPPEN TO READ THIS... THEY WANT "DIRTY WAR", GIVE IT TO THEM, START ATTACKING RIAA, BREAK INTO THEIR COMPUTERS, DISABLE THEIR PCs, SEND VIRUSES AND DESTROY ANY DATA THAT THEY HAVE THERE, TAKE NO PRISONERS, AND END THIS WAR ONCE AND FOR ALL!!!
Now, please... don't get me wrong... I think, that we should use this tactic only, if they will continue to go down this road. It's just like saying...
Hey "RIAA @ Gang"! If you wanna play dirty... no problem, we can do it too! But word of advice... DON't FUCK WITH US!"
You know what I'm thinking about the lawsuits against the public? You see durning the trial, there still is a jury. A jury made of regular people like us, and most of people are in favor, and support sharing community right? So who will convict anyone? Who will send a guy for 5 years to prison with a clear concience, when some murderers, rapists and child molelsters are getting less then that.
Hmmm... you see, the entertainment industry has organizations like RIAA fighting for them. Do we have somebody that fights for us, or we are only deffending ourselves when atacked?
<edited/added>
There is one nice Idea I've read, I slightly modified it...
A protest... For one full month, nobody will buy absolutely nothing that the whole entertainment industry gets their profit from. If you need to listen or watch something, use the stuff you already have. In this "war" the entertainment industry has one very powerfull weapon... MONEY... Let's show them that we are the ones with real power and if they will continue to fight with the public, we can and we will, "dissarm" them. No money, no means to finance RIAA. If that won't help, we will make it two months next time, untill they realize that they are loosing more then gaining, that this "WAR" is just not worth it for them and finally give up fighting against the whole world. So if you are someone that supports this idea, then this is the best date to go on strike. We need some time to spread this date around so it's gona be....
1st. of OCTOBER 2003 eddited duration time. I've changed my mind, not only i will not buy stuff for a month, but for as long as RIAA etc. exists.
If you do want to support it, let everyone know about it, add a link here to your signature, anything that won't trouble you too much. (moderators would be the best since they make the most posts, and then again, maybe not, becase as a "free speech forum providers, you shouldn't take sides).
Oh, and one more thing...
You, see... There is only one obstacle in my plan...
The obstacle I speak of, is peoples ignorance, and lack of trust in general...
Now this is the only thing, that can prevent me from achiving my gole... A gole that you people seem to have forgotten about... it is called "Freedom and Liberty for all..."
You may think, that I'm full of shit... sure, why not... I'd think like that myself... so no, you don't have to trust me... You can just sit back and watch as the file sharing community is being destroyed by the "RIAA mob".
But remember one thing... (and this is important)...
You need to be patient, but you have to understand, that for my plan to work, the timing is crucial!
"RIAA gangsters" are getting more and more aggressive everyday, so if I will not be able to gain people trust in me in time, then the "Rich dictators", WILL screw up any chance we have for my plan to work, by breaking us down into little pieces...
Please... you have to realize of how much "Power" the internet has given us... It's the power to comunicate. And comunication my friends, IS THE KEY!!!
So please, whether you belive me or not, try to help me out, by simply "spreading the word around"! That's all I ask of ya. Do what you do best... JUST TALK ABOUT ME ANYWHERE YOU CAN.
FUCK... for once in your entire lives, stop being such a narrow minded creatures, have a little faith AND TRUST ME!, because if I'm not gonna gain your trust, and my handle Raf111 will not become well known in time, then I will fail to succeed.
So if I'll fail, and I'm sorry to say that..., but we will not get a SECOND CHANCE!!!
People, just think about it for a second here...Do you see me trying to sell you something? Am I advertising and promoting anyone?.... NO!!! So why don't you wanna trust me...? You have nothing to loose, but think about what you can gain, if I'm really for real. Believe me when I tell you, that I have never, in my entire live, betrayed nobody, and I don't plan on making this time an exception.
I assure you... I don't have any hidden agenda, or some kind of hidden "Get Rich Quick" scheme...
Think people, think... I can't do it all by myself.
"THE POWER OF UNITY", is the answer to all of your questions... [/B]
long time lurker
September 13th, 2003, 09:45 AM
oops.. missed that one. now if there was a way to get organized and pull it off.
TC75580
September 13th, 2003, 11:10 AM
Originally posted by jonnymnemonic
The absolute best way to stick it to them would be to become a professional musician, but NEVER ask ANYONE for any money for your work, regardless of what it costs you in time and effort, and make sure it's very high-quality music. The more musicians out there willing to produce kickass stuff while expecting no reward, the worse the market will be for those who want to get paid for it.
(The same is true of all industries. Want cars cheaper and wanna stick it to the auto manufacturers? Build cars and give them away. Etc, etc.)
I'm curious as to how these musicians would live, eat, pay bills? Are they expected to have day-time jobs (which would take away time as a musician)?
I don't see how it'd be feasible-- please explain.
aqlo
September 13th, 2003, 11:26 AM
If your song is alive in everyone's mind it will make an excellent tool for selling motor oil or car engine or whatever
Hey babe, take a walk on the wild side
Come on sugar, take a walk on the wild side
(and the colored girls all went
Dupe da dupe da dupe dupe dupe)
--Reed
NachoGal
September 13th, 2003, 11:42 AM
http://www.boycott-riaa.com/
dr. damn
September 13th, 2003, 11:42 AM
Here's how to send your message to the RIAA:
Don't buy CDs from major labels
Don't buy audio cassette tapes
Don't buy "audio" or "music" CD-Rs. (Data CD-Rs work just as well for music and cost less.)
Now we just need a modern Abbie Hoffman to organize protests.
dr. damn
September 13th, 2003, 11:45 AM
Here's another idea -- what about making smallish stickers that inform the consumer that what they're buying contributes to the greed of the RIAA and then sticking them on CDs, around music stores, on payphones, etc? It should clearly explain what's wrong with the RIAA, be eye catching, and be a quick read.
shawners
September 13th, 2003, 12:34 PM
Originally posted by jonnymnemonic
If all information becomes normally freely available to the common man, then we won't have any writers or photographers or musicians (at least studio musicians) or movies, because the financial incentive that keeps their numbers high would be gone. I mean, if technology comes along that allows computers to write software, thereby lowering the pay of programmers to $0 per year, how many people will pursue a career in programming? Not many. Maybe a few folks who really love to write software and don't particularly need money, but...
I guess we *could* go that route and hope that technology allows us to create AIs that can write good books, make good music, take good pictures, make good movies, but...well, that seems like a pretty remote possibility at this point. (Although a guy DID create software that DID write a book, using Valley Of The Dolls as its general plot outline - so who knows.)
Havent machines already took away jobs from american work force as well as many. Engineers build machines do things productivly, and 24/7 with a man presiding over it. Machines have done payroll, build cars and such. So one day a 17 year old robot will be flipping burgers.
The industry can make money , so spare me the lose ends of how much money they lost to piracy when in fact they lost it to stupidity. If they want to all together and unite to make a Pay Service, that has links, ads, that pay for it, as well as all the downloads, only thing is they charge a monthly fee of 10 dollars, Like Xm satelite. There is another thing they could do, is to invent a tagging system on it so if it gets sold or people market their product through pirating, they will be jailed and fined.
mostly bands start up cause they have something to say and want it spread, or they start up cause they dont want to go school or 5.50 an hour job. They dont grow up spoiled, the industry makes them this way, throw money at them turn them to greed. So they will stick to the riaa to protect them. unless their management is screwing them, like the way Nsync and TLC got screwed.
jonnymnemonic
September 13th, 2003, 12:48 PM
Originally posted by TC75580
II don't see how it'd be feasible-- please explain.
I was being facetious. I guess it was subtler than I thought it was. I am for the artists getting paid (or anyone who does a job in any industry, actually).
Well, I'm gonna wait a week or two and see if anything momentous that will change the situation happens (a la CaptainMorgan's mysterious prediction). He left a clue, and I think I may have figured out what he was saying will happen. If it does, it would fulfill every one of the things in his list of things that would occur in the next six months.
Of course, he's a fictional character out to mess with my mind, so who knows? ;)
Lamourlady
September 13th, 2003, 01:39 PM
Originally posted by FutureIverson
most people say don't buy cd's but then they'll go to bitching about losing more and more money. So i think the best thing you can do is keep sharing. That'll fusturate them knowing were not intimidated.
was just thinking the same thing....if we stop buying cds, they will only blame the lost revenue on file-sharing.
although i don't put a lot of faith in the government, the only way things will change, is if the laws change.
i say partner up with the eff or similar, donate and sign petitions.
they r doing all the researching and voicing the opinions and desires of the p2p users, as well as some musicians.
it's just more organized that way and they seem respectable enough.
shawners
September 13th, 2003, 01:54 PM
Find out through the internet, tv, E, or any way or means to find out how much artist are making, and ask yourself if their two months in the studio worth it. I hear alot of them get a million regardless if the album sales. and they get royalties after it sold many copies like ten million or something, that goes into the recording industry until then. If a corporating instead of profiting the millions through the ones higher up, actually put into the company. their wouldnt be no lay offs or bankruptcy, money will be earning intrest and can be put in real estates, stock markets, pension funds.
jonnymnemonic
September 13th, 2003, 02:25 PM
Lets take movies as an example. You go to the theater and pay $6 to see a movie (I know that's low, but just as an example). So you are valuing an hour of entertainment at $3.
Now take a big-selling musician who sells ten million CDs. Figure each person who buys the CD will listen to it 10 times in their life. So that comes out to 100 million hours of entertainment. At a value of $3 for an hour of entertainment (see first paragraph), then that CD could be said to be "worth" $300 million.
How much is an hour of entertainment "worth", that's what it comes down to. I figure an hour of entertainment is generally worth roughly whatever the hourly minimum wage rate is. You gotta decide for yourself that value, but that's pretty much mine. Stuff that costs more than that seems like less of a good deal to me. Stuff that give more value than that seems like a pretty good deal to me.
Of course, I balance this against the fact that broadcast TV is FREE (except for the cost of the TV and the electricity). Of course, someone ELSE is paying for me to watch that entertainment, by inundating me with stupid ads and wasting my time. But then again, I know I can go pee at 10 or 15 minute intervals and not miss anything. ;)
tamarisk
September 13th, 2003, 08:02 PM
Do rental shops for music cd's exist like for DVD's?
if it doesen't i suppose it will make quite a good deal renting a music cd for a period of time
pravda
September 13th, 2003, 09:29 PM
sharing its legal in usa and all world, mp3s its a format demo for testing only, not cd quality. your can share in kazaalite sure, you must share in kazaalite, not run a supernode,
chek in options users cant get list of filers shared, disable por 1214 defeault. and dont share all mp3 from a artist.
share mp3s from diferent artist, but share much files.
and the riaa cant do it nothing.
they not can list all your files.
only can sue for one mp3
they dont do.
and if they sue fight and dont reply the supoema.
anotherjustme
September 14th, 2003, 01:06 PM
Originally posted by Lamourlady
was just thinking the same thing....if we stop buying cds, they will only blame the lost revenue on file-sharing.
You see, that's where you're wrong.
At this time, the lost revenue might be because of the crappy "product" they trying to sell.
Now to save their own ass, they blame it on the filesharing.
So, by making it loud and clear that the public is on strike, we're turning everything around, and now even if the real reason for lowered profits is the file sharing, they can't blame us, because we will just saym "NO, we just refused to buy anything from you..."
The key is, to make our protest well known fact.
Reclaim the Public Domain (http://www.petitiononline.com/eldred/petition.html) Sign it!!
To: U.S. Congress, RIAA, All Record Companies, Spoiled Artists Sign it!! (http://www.petitiononline.com/riaawar/petition.html)
Take a Stand Against the Madness; Stop the RIAA!Sign it!! (http://www.eff.org/share/petition/)
"Conspiracy theory" Some interesting info. (http://forums.shareaza.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=6133)
anotherjustme
September 14th, 2003, 01:12 PM
Originally posted by jonnymnemonic
Of course, I balance this against the fact that broadcast TV is FREE (except for the cost of the TV and the electricity). Of course, someone ELSE is paying for me to watch that entertainment, by inundating me with stupid ads and wasting my time. But then again, I know I can go pee at 10 or 15 minute intervals and not miss anything. ;)
I'm too lazy too type, so i'll just quote...:)
Originally posted by Pirata
I'd like to share my thoughts about the outcome of all this. They are similar to what JayDee and Raf have posted before.
I do hope that RIAA, Sony Music, BMG, etc will fade away as technology sweeps them from memory. I mean this without any worry as to all artists' future, because I do know that artists where ALIVE AND KICKING centuries before all that bunch of greedy dogs were around. Artists don't need RIAA (unless those running their own recording labels -I do know of a few-), what they need is to run their own Internet distribution services, get rid of physical media (all those CDs, cases, sleeves and booklets are needless when there is JPG, JPG2000, MP3, OGG, MPC and the like around; they are also a type of polution for the environment), and to DRASTICALLY reduce album and song prices the public pay. This will make culture accessible for everybody to a great extent, unlike it is now. The only problem with this is that, once artists get rid of intermediaries, while prices will substantially drop, artists will get much more money than they get now (intermediaries leave artists with a small percentage of the actual revenue, as already said on this thread), and they'll get even more richer. They could produce fewer and worse albums and do fewer live gigs. We'll, that's a just a prediction...
People making music CDs will make much more data CDs. No job loses or changes there.
Unknown musicians that start from scratch should use this method to spread their contents too. They have to get rid of distributors and intermediaries too. I bet they'll do better without such ball and chains.
All the suits working for the RIAA, Sony and co. will have to find theirselves a job, as other people around the world or in other fields constantly do. What a pity. But they'll fight their ways, of that I am sure.
If RIAA resources to illegal methods, we can do it too. Our civil rights and the unconditional spread of culture are at stake here. It is a change to improve the World. We have a civil duty in that matter. Corporations cannot reign and rule the world at their will. They already do at our backs, but we cannot allow it to happen before our noses. If I were a hacker, I will unite to ohers and terminate all those guys's PCs.
That was my take.
I understood this idea when I noticed that since the advent of P2P, I had had access to lots of CULTURE I'd never had because it was too expensive to buy. I can undoubtfuly say that RIAA and co. are not losing a single penny because of my sharing, because I'd never bought any of the things I now have. So I understood CULTURE IS HARSHLY RESTRICTED to those with enough money to pay all they want, while artists turned out to get almost nothing. Another point is that I can save some money when I saw a screener of the latest Hollywood movie, just to confirm that it was another peace of bu*it.
Thus: the benefit is for me and it is fair. The content creators (not providers) would also benefit of this. Guess which old dinosaur was fighting (sueing) in the middle, trying to survive...
One more thing: when the american Constitution was created, artists had 17 of control over their creations. Intensive lobbying of some corporations (guess which ones) has extended that to up to 75 years after the dead of the artist before going public domain. Incredible.
DO NOT FORGET THIS. SPREAD IT.
crackerjacker
June 7th, 2005, 05:07 PM
well fuck the riaa
and fuck the mpaa
and on a side note
i am awesome
MacGyver
June 7th, 2005, 07:14 PM
you know this is funny, about a year ago i was getting bitched at for saying "i would laugh if someone flew a plane into the side of the riaa headquarters".......call me cruel but if this happened the "pilot(s)" would be my hero's forever.
crackerjacker
June 7th, 2005, 08:36 PM
you know this is funny, about a year ago i was getting bitched at for saying "i would laugh if someone flew a plane into the side of the riaa headquarters".......call me cruel but if this happened the "pilot(s)" would be my hero's forever.
ok
i want pizza
MacGyver
June 7th, 2005, 08:52 PM
ok
i want pizza
I want some pizza too! But I'l settle for chineese!