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PuNiShErKiLl666

September 5th, 2003, 05:49 PM

Jorge,
Nothing really against you as a person or a web designer. But things really need to change around here and Im sure most of us can agree on this. Lately as you all know ZP and ES5 forums have been flaming back and forth and it looks like no peace in the future. So here is something Jorge should do, instead of promoting them.. kill them off your site!!! Its common sense. Who cares how much they are paying you. LOOK AT YOUR FORUM!!!! ITS DIEING DAY BY DAY. Everyday there is a new thread about ES5 hating ZP etc. It really needs to stop. The mods and Jorge really need to think up some plan to stop this (Get rid of the Earthstation5 forum and that stupid banner at the top) Also delete any thread about ES5 that is negitive or turns negitive.
But this all needs to stop. All these stupid threads and stupid trolls that come here. I've slowed down on being a retard and I have grown up a little. Now its all your turns.

So for now Im not posting and if you wana join my strike against ZP then your aloud. I will be back this is nothing against ZP but this might be the only way to get Jorge to take action. ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS!!

So I will sit outside. Anyone else that is angry with the ZP thing come with me.

BUT please lets not flame the shit outa each other in this thread. We really need to keep it open for Jorge to respond and the mods to think up new ways. If your gonna flame then take it to PM PLEASE!!!

Kooperman

September 5th, 2003, 05:54 PM

.....There goes the Tigers: 102 losses thread then.........maybe I can start The Lions: 13 losses thread....

Ken17625

September 5th, 2003, 05:58 PM

Everyday there is a new thread about ES5 hating

Yoda, think man.

You just made another one. The key is to NOT discuss "it" if you don't like "it". Continuing to acknowledge "it" helps "it"

So stop helping "it" Yoda, please.

rainbowdemon

September 5th, 2003, 06:01 PM

I've slowed down on being a retard and I have grown up a little. Now its all your turns. Yoda, I never thought you were a retard. You were always cool with me. But to desert a forum you think is dieing ( I don't agree ) just does not make sense. These es5 people will eventually get bored with their little game, and go away. But the less we play it with them, the sooner they will go away. Hang in there, bud.

PuNiShErKiLl666

September 5th, 2003, 06:06 PM

As I think about it, maybe I do just need a break from the internet. Maybe by the time I get back this will get all cleared up. But im still holding my ground! There needs to be some changes!!

See ya guys when ZP is back to being Zeropaid.com

aqlo

September 5th, 2003, 06:19 PM

Maybe I'm out of line here, I'm sure good people will tell me if I am too.

But it seems to me like Yoda was in here one day saying bs5 had really fcked him and it made him support zp forever, then the next day with an interview with kabir pushing the same propaganda as ever, and now since that got removed it's more hoop-jumping and hyperbole.

And the other days it was just spam anyway. If your ass has gotten too big to actually fit out the door Pooh I for one will be happy to help push.

Kooperman

September 5th, 2003, 06:41 PM

Originally posted by aqlo

But it seems to me like Yoda was in here one day saying bs5 had really fcked him and it made him support zp forever, then the next day with an interview with kabir pushing the same propaganda as ever, and now since that got removed it's more hoop-jumping and hyperbole.

What's gonna be scary, aqlo, is if Yoda comes back in a few days with steve15's old job.......

Ken17625

September 5th, 2003, 06:42 PM

Well, Yoda has said to me anyway he's decided to take a break from ZP. He thinks, and I agree, that perhaps he's taking everything a bit to seriously (perhaps we all are).

Afterall, I come to Zeropaid.com for recreational purposes.

See ya around Yoda!

aqlo

September 5th, 2003, 06:47 PM

Bullsht, he's over in the other thread stirring the same sht. I always ignored him before because he was duller than dirt, now that I'm paying attention I'm terribly disappointed.

MoonMan

September 5th, 2003, 06:49 PM

Originally posted by aqlo
Bullsht, he's over in the other thread stirring the same sht. I always ignored him before because he was duller than dirt, now that I'm paying attention I'm terribly disappointed.

No offense aqlo because I deeply respect you and your views but Yoda is my friend.. and sometimes he may have a misconception of the right thing to do but he is a good guy and usually means well.

Don't be so harsh on him, he's only like 16.

rainbowdemon

September 5th, 2003, 06:52 PM

Afterall, I come to Zeropaid.com for recreational purposes. Me too. That's why I don't usually get involved in pointless arguements.:wings

aqlo

September 5th, 2003, 06:56 PM

No offense taken Moon, always feel free to tell me what you think. If I'm wrong I can change my mind.

Care to tell me how you became friends? Like do you know him in real life or did you just enjoy some of the games and links and develop a general goodwill toward him (like I used to have) which grew into friendship over time or what?

Because right now I'm kicking myself for thinking he was someone different from all the other 15 million faces of Eve that talk this exact shit down to the same linguistic "tells" and tics.

In other words I'd love to be wrong, my heart has been hurting me since I saw the interview yesterday and read through his posts.

Brycen257

September 5th, 2003, 06:57 PM

Sometimes we all need a break or change from our regular rountine so that we quit taking things so seriously and regain our perpspective. I don't see anything wrong with Zeropaid and will definitely remain active. Hopefully after a short break, Yodashady will realize this as well. Good Luck, yodashady.

MoonMan

September 5th, 2003, 07:01 PM

Originally posted by aqlo
No offense taken Moon, always feel free to tell me what you think. If I'm wrong I can change my mind.

Care to tell me how you became friends? Like do you know him in real life or did you just enjoy some of the games and links and develop a general goodwill toward him (like I used to have) which grew into friendship over time or what?

Because right now I'm kicking myself for thinking he was someone different from all the other 15 million faces of Eve that talk this exact shit down to the same linguistic "tells" and tics.

He comes to the evil Zeropaid chat and helps me plot despicable things against Zeropaid.com and its moderators.

Really though, he comes to the chat often and tells lame jokes. At first it was just a general goodwill toward him, but it grew into a friendship. He sure can annoy me when he wants to, but overall I think he is a good person who is misunderstood alot.

shawners

September 5th, 2003, 07:05 PM

didnt yoda help with the site supportp2p.com or something and put a thread for everyone to join, and now stirring up the esV and zp thing up.. I Wonder how far the rabbit hole goes.

Rickio

September 5th, 2003, 07:07 PM

It really is like that famous story where a bunch of people are viewing something , but they all see it differently.

Yoda is seeing it differently right now and personally I can kinda understand as I seem to be terminally out of synch with most of what goes on. Only difference is I don't take it so seriously anymore lol

also taking a break can be a good idea if one gets uptight.

post on peeps

peace

Undying Wizard NHD

September 5th, 2003, 07:10 PM

we share with these people, sharing is caring right ?

if you dont get along with the people how can you share ?

this little fight is kinda lame, cant we all just get along

I dont share things with people I dont like, we dont like em P2P can have a bad turn, in a odd sence of speaking

Sephiroth

September 5th, 2003, 07:12 PM

Actually the forums have been going up lately so they are doing good.

No matter what we do, i dont think that it would matter much. Deleting the ESV forum would just mean that they would post it all in the general p2p discussion forum like before.

Other than that i really have a hard time seeing this more than just another opportunity to plug your site here yoda.

aqlo

September 5th, 2003, 07:13 PM

Thanks for that Rickio, you always help me get my zen back

Five stoned men were in a courtyard when an elephant entered.
The first man was stoned on sleep, and he saw not the elephant, but dreamed instead of things unreal to those awake.
The second man was stoned on nicotine, caffeine, DDT, carohydrate excess, protein defiancy, and the other chemicals in the diet which the Illuminati have enforced upon the half-awake to keep them from fully waking.
"Hey," he said, "there´s a big, smelly beast in our courtyard."
The third stoned man was on grass, and he said, "No, dads, that´s the Ghostly Old Party in it´s true nature, the Dark Nix of the soul," and he giggled in a silly way.
The fourth stoned man was tripping on peyote, and he said, "You see not the mystery, for the elephant is a poem written in tons instead of words," and his eyes danced.
The fifth stoned man was on acid, and he said nothing, merely worshipping the elephant in silence as the Father of Buddha.
And then the Hierophant entered and drove a nail of mystery into all their hearts, saying, "You are all elephants!"
Nobody understood him.
--Robert Anton Wilson

mojo-ris-in

September 5th, 2003, 07:17 PM

Be that as it may Moonie, when Yoda was escalating things over there he helped to cause this. Look if you want this to end then it's partially up to everyone here to not go over there and fall into their game. Let them say whatever the hell they want to. I read it shake my head and move on. I don't post there anymore and haven't since the clone accounts. If I have something to say I'll say it here and they if they are inclined they can change my words and post them there all they want. By posting it here I don't have to worry about things changed around or taken out of context. The other part is Es5 supporters need to stop slandering ZP. There is a huge difference between honest criticism and outright slander and people see that. Hell their own forum members are calling for cessation of hostilities and I still say that's up to Sharepro. If he wants this to end he can end it. Period..

Yoda I know that when you went over there you and other people did it to support ZP and that is admirable. You guys love this site and wish it to prosper so I don't necesarily fault you for doing it but things like that have a tendacy to spill over and that's what we have now. Again what you all do away from here is really not my concern and I will never tell anyone to post or not post something over there but realize that if you do, you could end up do more harm than good.

This will pass eventually. When enough people at ES5 get tired of this junk they will let Sharepro know. Until then I would suggest avoiding the ES5 topics and the ES5 forums. Not a demand, just a suggestion. There's really nothing that ZP mods can do since it wasn't instigated by them. All we can really do is keep the flamers in check whereas Sharepro could end this tommorrow.

Ken17625

September 5th, 2003, 07:17 PM

Yeah, and we play a little game called "op-kick the yoda" (play/pun on drop kick huhhuhuhuh).

We op him in such a way, that hes not oped, but in fact kicked from the channel.

He absolutely loves this game (i'm serious for once).

I remember he once said it turns him on.................scary thought, but fun none the less.

Rickio

September 5th, 2003, 07:18 PM

That's a good one aglo and Robert Anton Wilson is a favorite of mine as well.

stevenkao

September 7th, 2003, 12:10 PM

I don't think deleting all of the posts that appear hostile is a good way to go. Instead of telling the already busy moderators, we should gtet to the root of the problem by solving the differences via dialogue but not flaming.

IshareManyFilez

September 7th, 2003, 01:48 PM

Honestly, this whole thing has completely gotten out of hand. Both forums should be friends, we are fighting the same war against one evil organization. Who gives a flying rats ass about how good or bad a program or forum is. We brought this upon ourselves by flaming the esV, and its members, and moderators. I've seen some nasty things said to people just doing their jobs advertising and exaggerating a little. And not once have i seen an instance where an es5 member really flamed back. Yes its wrong and is bullshit, but they have freedom of speach and you should come to respect that. We want to fileshare because of freedom of speech, and privacy, and opinion. If you don't agree with me, fine whatever.

rainbowdemon

September 7th, 2003, 02:02 PM

Originally posted by IshareManyFilez
Honestly, this whole thing has completely gotten out of hand. Both forums should be friends, we are fighting the same war against one evil organization. Who gives a flying rats ass about how good or bad a program or forum is. We brought this upon ourselves by flaming the esV, and its members, and moderators. I've seen some nasty things said to people just doing their jobs advertising and exaggerating a little. And not once have i seen an instance where an es5 member really flamed back. Yes its wrong and is bullshit, but they have freedom of speach and you should come to respect that. We want to fileshare because of freedom of speech, and privacy, and opinion. If you don't agree with me, fine whatever. I agree with you totally. As file-sharers we are all on the same side. What's wrong with acting like it?

TheFonz

September 7th, 2003, 02:11 PM

Originally posted by Ken17625

We op him in such a way, that hes not oped, but in fact kicked from the channel.

He absolutely loves this game (i'm serious for once).

I remember he once said it turns him on.................scary thought, but fun none the less.

hahahaha

mes

September 7th, 2003, 05:25 PM

can someone please tell me what is going on between es5 and zeropaid, i am in the dark completely with this topic:)

mes

Kooperman

September 7th, 2003, 05:28 PM

Originally posted by mes
can someone please tell me what is going on between es5 and zeropaid, i am in the dark completely with this topic:)

mes
Listen, all you have to do is read the posts in the forum threads to find that out.....but you're just here to advertise that moribund filesuneed link as much as you can. Can you at least not be so obvious about that tonight?

The Hunter

September 7th, 2003, 05:35 PM

I will say the same thing here, I said in the other thread. Nothing is going on, and i hope it stays that way. What we need is for people to just get back to file sharing. It is just that simple, as we have the same direction, and that is to get files.

mes

September 7th, 2003, 05:44 PM

Im not advertising my site, the only reason i posted another message here was because i didnt realise they had moved my es5 thread to another forum.

If you must know i posted a post in quite a few posts the other night not to spam, but to help and to see how many posts it took to change the sig under your nickname. Now i've found out i can stop.

So quieten down kooper, dont make presumptions.

mes

Ken17625

September 7th, 2003, 05:59 PM

but to help and to see how many posts it took to change the sig under your nickname.

That could be considered SPAM...

Kooperman

September 7th, 2003, 06:04 PM

Originally posted by mes

If you must know i posted a post in quite a few posts the other night not to spam, but to help and to see how many posts it took to change the sig under your nickname. Now i've found out i can stop.

So quieten down kooper, dont make presumptions.

mes
All you had to do was open the info files in the forum to find out the sig stuff....but that's too fast and easy for you. Self-styled Serial Spammers apparently like it long and hard.

aqlo

September 7th, 2003, 06:04 PM

That could be considered SPAM... I didn't see any actual useless posts and I was looking pretty hard. So were the other troll gourmets, and the mods never sleep at all.

But mes keep in mind that some of that post-count will disappear whenever old useless threads get cleaned out, keep making productive helpful posts whenever you like. (I lost about 100 posts the last time I took a break, I hang out with the wrong people ya know *salivates* )

Ken17625

September 7th, 2003, 06:09 PM

I merely stated the idea of posting SIMPLY to raise post count is kinda spamish. I was just going by his quote.

I never actually stated he spammed.

MoonMan

September 7th, 2003, 06:14 PM

Quiet spammer.

aqlo

September 7th, 2003, 06:14 PM

*grins* yeah and you said it faster than me this time, so I covered the other side. Now it's like a niiiiice sandwich.

MoonMan

September 7th, 2003, 06:16 PM

Hey aqlo, love the avatar man. I saw that you were experimenting with them a day or two ago (all with the same GW theme), good choice to stick with.

Kooperman

September 7th, 2003, 06:21 PM

Originally posted by MoonMan
Hey aqlo, love the avatar man. I saw that you were experimenting with them a day or two ago (all with the same GW theme), good choice to stick with.
Where's yours, Mooney?

aqlo

September 7th, 2003, 06:23 PM

*nods* it's the most suitable thing I can find for a clerical collar, I will probably lose it again when I need the bloodflow back to my brain, right now I got kids readin Revelations in the other thread though so it's quite appropriate.

Kooperman

September 7th, 2003, 06:26 PM

Originally posted by aqlo
*nods* it's the most suitable thing I can find for a clerical collar, I will probably lose it again when I need the bloodflow back to my brain, right now I got kids readin Revelations in the other thread though so it's quite appropriate.
In the avatar.....is that a holy "hook 'em horns" he's doing?

aqlo

September 7th, 2003, 06:31 PM

Yep, or "rock&roll" if you'd rather. I prefer to pass it off as the sign against the evil eye because I'm a Stooges fan *nyuk nyuk nyuk*

MoonMan

September 7th, 2003, 06:35 PM

Originally posted by Kooperman
Where's yours, Mooney?

Well once upon a time, I got angry at somethings here at Zeropaid. Instead of being a dick on the forums, I decided to show my disgust with my title and lack of avatar. Yes I know, I'm such a revolutionist lol.. but it felt right at the time.

When I find a new theme, I will try and use it. :)

aqlo

September 7th, 2003, 06:42 PM

I just noticed something critical to any Protest that has been missing here

pffffffffffffft ~ 'ERE

http://www.zeropaid.com/bbs/attachment.php?s=&postid=90115

mojo-ris-in

September 7th, 2003, 09:27 PM

Originally posted by MoonMan
Well once upon a time, I got angry at somethings here at Zeropaid. Instead of being a dick on the forums, I decided to show my disgust with my title and lack of avatar. Yes I know, I'm such a revolutionist lol.. but it felt right at the time.

When I find a new theme, I will try and use it. :)

Wanna talk about it pm me

Potato

September 7th, 2003, 10:02 PM

Malicious Intent

September 8th, 2003, 01:58 AM

You can't argue that we are filesharers like SEV and so we should get along. The whole purpose of ESV employees is to cause trouble.
HOWEVER, I love flaming them!

method

September 8th, 2003, 04:13 AM

I dunno.. I guess I got bored of even bothering to enter these flame wars much..
1. they're pointless
2. a lot of the arguments and statistics provided by one side seem laughably miles out. (I'm not saying which side)
3. i don't want other users to get sick of it so i try not to bump those threads any more (mebbe when there's a good point to make i do but generally i don't bother posting to them)

and I gotta admit, I'm starting to go off ZP due to the fact this place is spammed to death regarding 'it',

I'm no saint and accept the fact that I do use ZP to inform people of the silly projects I've worked on.. but have you EVER seen me go to even 10% the extent of 'them'? - No.. 'coz I'm annoying enough without needing to spam. :;)

Why not just make it so that threads originating from the 'it' forum don't show up elsewhere on Zeropaid? or do you feel that would politically threaten the revenue you get from 'them' for advertising.. Jorge?? :)

Peace!!

Sephiroth

September 8th, 2003, 07:19 AM

This is not up to me. I did not start this shit but then again i cant let someone sit back and slander this place and spread rumors and lies to try to tarnish this site.

All this started is because we the moderators were just doing our job.

Rather than listen to some of the demands that were made like ban cssdude, delete all negative esv comments/critism and let steve and filehoover and others act above the forum rules.

For the ESV flaming i blame both sides and the other moderators and i have all tried to get it to stop but no one wants to let us do our jobs then we really cant do much. Some of the critism and negative threads are valid opinions and they get handled wrong and turned into flaming.

Which for the most part its been confined to this forum so if you dont want to listen to it then dont view this forum.

If you want to stop for good then e-mail Ras who is in charge of ESV and tell him to make it stop.

method

September 8th, 2003, 07:42 AM

"delete all negative *** comments/critism"

Can I just ask.. seph.. was this actually requested?

I'm a useless lamer so I don't care about being criticised for whatever stuff I do... I'm just trying to get better!! :;)

BUT.. I'd at least expect any half-respectable group to encourage criticism for the sake of learning and self-improvement.

Did they actually ask for negative comments to be REMOVED from ZP?

aqlo

September 8th, 2003, 07:52 AM

Did they actually ask for negative comments Not just real negative comments like "this sucks you terrorist" either. Things like when we discovered conf.exe or when serrebi had a ton of trouble getting the thing out of his registry.

Sephiroth

September 8th, 2003, 08:36 AM

Originally posted by method
"delete all negative *** comments/critism"

Can I just ask.. seph.. was this actually requested?

I'm a useless lamer so I don't care about being criticised for whatever stuff I do... I'm just trying to get better!! :;)

BUT.. I'd at least expect any half-respectable group to encourage criticism for the sake of learning and self-improvement.

Did they actually ask for negative comments to be REMOVED from ZP?

Not directly but it was certainly was implied and thats how i understood it. But they did request that we remove posts and etc. Some by isus were going too far which is why we warned both him and filehoover that if they flamed one more time then they would get banned. Which they both did and got banned.

They have seen this place as 100% against ESV and the ones who do represent the program just cant deal with any critism at all and so they respond personally..

Pretty much in the past even when we were removing the comments that were going a bit too far unless everything is 100% positive then they will still think that Zp hates esv and were all against them and etc comes from. Which the only way to do that would be to get rid of every negative comment.

Which of course instead of letting us know whenever someone breaks the forum rules by posting flames or crap that went too far they always just took it upon themselves and on their own forums instead of trying to work with us in any way.