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Kooperman
September 4th, 2003, 04:21 PM
CLEAN SLATE PROGRAM DESCRIPTION
The Recording Industry Association of America ('RIAA') is offering amnesty from copyright enforcement to individuals residing in the United States who have, or who believe that they may have, illegally downloaded or distributed copyrighted sound recordings on peer-to-peer networks such as Kazaa, Grokster, iMesh, Morpheus, Bearshare, LimeWire, Gnutella, Blubster, OverNet, Shareaza, Gnucleus, SoulSeek, Earthstation 5 and eDonkey ('P2P Networks'). As part of this Clean Slate Program, RIAA is agreeing not to support or assist in copyright infringement suits based on past conduct against individuals who meet the conditions outlined below. Only individual persons are eligible for the Clean Slate Program; businesses, groups and other organizations or entities may not participate.

You are eligible for this Clean Slate Program if:
1. You delete or destroy all copyrighted sound recordings that you or others illegally downloaded to your computer(s) or devices (including all storage and portable devices) using a P2P Network, and all copies you have of those files in any format (including CD-R). 2. In the future you do not illegally download copyrighted sound recordings using a P2P Network, you do not allow others to illegally download copyrighted sound recordings to your computer(s), you do not make copies of any such downloaded files in any format, and you do not 'share' (that is, upload/distribute) such files on P2P Networks.
3. As of the date your Clean Slate Program Affidavit is received, you have not been sued for copyright infringement by an RIAA member company for the activities that are covered by this Clean Slate Program and RIAA has not begun to investigate you by requesting from an Internet Service Provider ('ISP'), by subpoena or otherwise, identifying information about you.
4. Any downloading or file-distribution that you engaged in was done on a noncommercial basis. Individuals who undertook these activities for commercial purposes or for payment are not eligible for this Clean Slate Program.

INSTRUCTIONS
In order to take advantage of this Clean Slate Program, please take the following steps. Note that all information sent will be used solely in connection with the Clean Slate Program and will not be used for marketing or other promotional purposes. See our Privacy Policy for further details.

1. Carefully read the Clean Slate Program Affidavit and make sure that you have taken all necessary steps to delete any copyrighted music files you or others illegally downloaded to your computer(s) or devices (including all storage and portable devices) using a P2P Network, and to destroy any copies you have of those files in any format.
2. Complete the Clean Slate Program Affidavit, except for your signature (since it must be signed in the presence of a notary public to be valid). If there is more than one person in your household who seeks to participate in the Clean Slate Program, each participant in the household must complete a separate Clean Slate Program Affidavit.
3. Take the completed, unsigned form to a notary public, together with identification (such as your driver’s license or passport), which will allow the notary to verify that you are the person whose information is listed on the form. Have the notary witness your signature. If you are under the age of 18 a parent or legal guardian also must sign the Clean Slate Program Affidavit.
4. Make a copy of the Clean Slate Program Affidavit for your own records. Send the original, signed and notarized version of the Clean Slate Program Affidavit to: Clean Slate Program Coordinator, RIAA, 1330 Connecticut Avenue, N.W., Suite 300, Washington, D.C. 20036. (For your recordkeeping purposes, you may want to consider sending your Clean Slate Program Affidavit by Federal Express, certified mail, or some other traceable delivery service.)

OUR PRIVACY POLICY
Information provided on the Clean Slate Program Affidavit will be used solely in connection with conducting and enforcing the Clean Slate Program. Information will not be used for marketing, promotional or public relations purposes. Information will not be made public or given to third parties, including individual copyright owners, except if necessary to enforce a participant’s violation of the pledges set forth in the Affidavit or otherwise required by law.

CLEAN SLATE PROGRAM AFFIDAVIT IDENTIFYING INFORMATION
Full Name:
Address of Primary Residence (United States only):
Telephone Number:
E-mail Address:
Internet Service Provider:

I, the individual whose name appears above, am executing this Clean Slate Program Affidavit in order to obtain amnesty from copyright infringement litigation supported or assisted by the Recording Industry Association of America ('RIAA') with respect to my unauthorized noncommercial downloading, copying, or 'sharing' (that is, uploading/distributing) as of this date on peer-to-peer networks such as Kazaa, Grokster, iMesh, Morpheus, Bearshare, LimeWire, Gnutella, Blubster, OverNet, Shareaza, Gnucleus, SoulSeek, Earthstation 5 and eDonkey ('P2P Networks'). I represent that I am eligible for this Clean
Slate Program and meet all the conditions herein and in the Clean Slate Program Description. I have deleted from my computer(s) and storage devices (including portable devices) all copyrighted sound recordings illegally downloaded, copied or 'shared' (that is, uploaded/distributed) using P2P Networks, and have destroyed all copies of those sound recordings I
have in any format (including CD-R). I agree from today forward to stop any and all illegal downloading, copying, or 'sharing' (that is, uploading/distributing) of files of copyrighted sound recordings on P2P Networks.

Provided that I have in fact deleted from my computer(s) and storage devices (including portable devices) all copyrighted sound recordings illegally downloaded from P2P Networks, and destroyed all copies of those sound recordings in any format, and do not engage in illegal downloading, copying or 'sharing' (that is, uploading/distributing) of copyrighted sound recordings on P2P Networks in the future, I understand that RIAA agrees not to support or assist in any copyright infringement lawsuit against me based on these past activities. I understand that if I am found in the future to have done any illegal downloading, copying or 'sharing' (that is, uploading/distributing) of copyrighted sound recordings using P2P Networks on or after today’s date or if I am found to have not met the conditions of the Clean Slate Program, RIAA may support or assist in an action for willful copyright infringement.

I acknowledge that I have signed this Clean Slate Program Affidavit voluntarily and that nothing herein prevents me from consulting with counsel of my own choosing.

Signature:
__________________________________________________ __
Signature of Parent or Guardian if Person Listed Above is Under 18:
__________________________________________________ __
STATE OF )
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COUNTY OF )
I, ______________________, a Notary Public in and for this
jurisdiction, certify that ________________________________ [name(s) of
person signing above] ________________________________ [parent or
guardian, if necessary], who is known to me to be the person signing
this Clean Slate Affidavit, personally appeared before me in this
jurisdiction.
IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I sign below and set my official seal on this
document on ________________, 20___.
Signature:
_______________________________________
Name printed or typed:
_______________________________________

SUprEMeBeiNg
September 4th, 2003, 04:28 PM
rofl rofl rofl

sign me up

Mr Butts

Semore Buttz :black

Ken17625
September 4th, 2003, 04:41 PM
Yeah, nice try.


I could have sworn i've seen this tactic used somewhere..........

Wolfie
September 4th, 2003, 04:46 PM
Originally posted by Kooperman
http://au.news.yahoo.com/030904/11/lkfp.html

Hmmmm...you gonna go for this?

Sure thing. I'll send them my official membership photo at www.stupidisme.com.

j72883
September 4th, 2003, 04:58 PM
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20030905/ap_en_bu/downloading_music_3

Azathoth
September 4th, 2003, 04:59 PM
(extreme sarcasm on)
SHUUUUURRRRRE! While I'm at it I'll just go ahead and send you 150,000 per song just to be on the safeside. Now where'd I leave my wallet?
(extreme sarcasm off)

Why would neone want to turn themselves in. I mean come on If they don't know about it yet why the hell would you need amnesty? Plus, they want you to send a copy of a photo ID.

(extreme sarcasm on)
Ok I'll send you my driver's licence along with a recent bill and a bank statement. Where's that wallet again?
(extreme sarcasm off)

The amnesty doesn't count if your already on the hit list. This has gotta be the most blatent scare tactic I've seen yet.

jonnymnemonic
September 4th, 2003, 05:01 PM
I have a funny story about amnesty. When I joined the army and we got to basic training, they told us if we had any drugs or weapons or whatever, we would be allowed to go into a room alone, that contained a mailbox-type thing, and we could throw stuff into that. If later we got caught with something, then we'd be busted.

Well, I was waiting in the amnesty line, although I didn't actually have anything to turn in, but everyone had to go through the room regardless. And man, I heard loud clangs of metal on metal from people ahead of me, and I was like, jeez, wtf are they throwing in that mailbox. So when I got in the room, I reached my (skinny) arm inside to see what was in the box, and felt several pistols, piles of knives, bags of pot, pipes, a bong. It was really hilarious all the stuff that was in there. I considered taking the bag of pot, but didn't have the courage.

Didn't have anything to say about the RIAA amnestyy (other than that you're an idiot if you turn yourself in); just wanted to share my amnesty box story. ;)

Aaron73153
September 4th, 2003, 05:12 PM
I smell a trap.

REDO
September 4th, 2003, 05:13 PM
all ready a thread about this....

johnsmatrix
September 4th, 2003, 05:18 PM
Here it is in case a mod wants to paste or whatever.


http://www.zeropaid.com/bbs/showthread.php?threadid=14358

Jello
September 4th, 2003, 05:32 PM
No one but a good attorney could advise you to take the amnesty or not, but what is more important is, what this says about the entire battle.

By offerring to settle like this the RIAA is basically saying they give up. Settling with 1600 people is nothing compared to the entire population of p2p users.

If they are offerring settlement before the first shots are really fired, what does this say about their future? It seems they are not willing to really go forward full force with enforcing their copyrights which might signal that it's over.

This first round of lawsuits would be the testing ground for the actual campaign that was to follow but it looks like they are going soft already.

Copyrights are essentially unenforceable?

FutureIverson
September 4th, 2003, 05:35 PM
I'd accept their offer, and go back on to sharing nothin' but a JOKE

Kooperman
September 4th, 2003, 05:35 PM
I think that most likely they realize how much time and effort this is costing them, and the potential for backfires is great. The negative publicity has stung them already, before the first of the subpoena lawsuits have even been enacted.

Wolfie
September 4th, 2003, 05:41 PM
Not to mention trial and lawyer expenses for each of the lawsuits. They will try settle as many cases out of court as possible.

As for the p2p side not everyone will fight like the Jane-Doe person from NY, so they will probably get some takers.

Pebbles100
September 4th, 2003, 06:08 PM
destroy all copies (including CD-Rs) ?? Yeah, right! I've gotta think of a good hiding place for them... :)

Pebbles100
September 4th, 2003, 06:12 PM
Originally posted by Kooperman
I think that most likely they realize how much time and effort this is costing them, and the potential for backfires is great. The negative publicity has stung them already, before the first of the subpoena lawsuits have even been enacted.

ditto that

Wolfie
September 4th, 2003, 06:12 PM
Originally posted by Pebbles100
destroy all copies (including CD-Rs) ??

What are they gonna do? Come to your house with search warrant for a surprise inspection?

Someone must have been thinking out of thier butt really hard to come up with this idea. It probaby hurt too, lol.

Pebbles100
September 4th, 2003, 06:56 PM
LOL ---I was just being silly :(

you never know when the Gestapo will be at your door!

origin
September 4th, 2003, 07:28 PM
this seems too fishy.Don't trust these bastards but lol they want a photo-ID of the person who are they becoming now the new cops this is getting out of control :gj

RJ5500
September 4th, 2003, 07:31 PM
lol. The Gestapo coming to your door over mp3s.

Hello sir, we're from the FBI. We've got reason to believe that you've in posession of CD-Rs full of "mp3" music files

Me: is this a joke?

FBI: no sir, we have no sense of humor that we are aware of

:cross

raf111
September 4th, 2003, 11:39 PM
People, people, people...

Come on now... You have to understand that the "RIAA @ gang" is just simply full of shit!

So just remember... (and this is very important) I'd like to reffer you to one of my posts entitled "People. Don't let yourself be fooled...!!! Don't run away!" (http://forum.sharereactor.com/viewtopic.php?p=965630#965630) (forum hosting my post, seems to be temporarilly down, but be sure to go there and read it, once it's back up.)

Oh... and I'd really recomend clicking on the links in my signature.

CaptainMorgan
September 5th, 2003, 12:55 AM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by raf111
<snip>
[QUOTE]

Not exactly SPAM, just CRAP, CRAP, CRAP.

tons of fun
September 5th, 2003, 01:27 AM
Oh yeah....RIGHT!!! :finger


Idiots.........

Jim Morrison
September 5th, 2003, 02:02 AM
hey raf111 why dont u ask one of those 1600 that are getting sued if the riaa is just bullshit. If they catch me hell yea ill sign it, I would rather sign some paper than be paying them 500.00 dollars a fucking month for the rest of my life. Just think about it.

raf111
September 5th, 2003, 02:17 AM
People, have a little faith...will ya?...
Patience my sons, patience... Christmas isn't every day, but it's comming soon :santa

Kooperman
September 5th, 2003, 02:22 AM
Originally posted by raf111
People, have a little faith...will ya?...
Patience my sons, patience... Christmas isn't every day, but it's comming soon :santa

Spamdaddy, take your egomania to ES5.....there's more just like you there.

AuronFFX
September 5th, 2003, 02:30 AM
Originally posted by Jim Morrison
hey raf111 why dont u ask one of those 1600 that are getting sued if the riaa is just bullshit. If they catch me hell yea ill sign it, I would rather sign some paper than be paying them 500.00 dollars a fucking month for the rest of my life. Just think about it.

You seem to missunderstand the situation. If you get caught you are fucked! No amnesty for your ass. Amnesty only applies if you havent been served a subpeona. Basically they are saying if you have shared files you can turn yourself in and we will go easy on you.

Most of you are scoffing at this but you forget one thing. The riaa has been taking our ip addresses for years now. I remeber an article posted on ZP called "hey you unindicted felon". Basically if you have shared an mp3 over the last 2 years you can still get sued by the riaa and prosecuted by the FBI.

The odds of winning a court case for an act commited that long in the past is low, but the threat of that sort of lawsuit will scare the hell out of alot of americans.

Now I doubt the riaa will do this because with the 3+ million people using kazaa currently they dont have a shortage of people to sue. However this could scare lots of people.

The only case where you might want to actually turn yourself in is if youve been sharing 100+ music files 24/7 on kazaa since they announced that they were gonna start taking down ip's in late july. And then only do so under the supervision of a lawyer.

I belive that if you are a leech then you have little cause for concern. Prosecuting someone for downloading files is unprecedented and hard to do.

If im giving out free copies of cds on a street corner Im obviously violating copywright. You could suppose that every cd I give out could be copied several times over and the calculated damages to the riaa would be exponential. However if I am walking down the street and someone hands me a stack of cdr's, I may be violating copywright by accepting pirated music. But the only damage I am causing is my own patronage of the music industry(assuming I stop buying music). In most copywright cases in the past copywright law is only enforced when you can show a significant loss to the copywright owner because of the copywright infringment.

raf111
September 5th, 2003, 02:31 AM
He he he... did you think that I thought, that I'll gain your trust right away?... shit... of course not... I'm just not affraid to confront few people that will make couple of sarcastic remarks...

Here is a link to one more post I just made...
http://www.zeropaid.com/bbs/showthread.php?s=&threadid=14153&perpage=&pagenumber=2

Kooperman
September 5th, 2003, 02:50 AM
Technology - AP

Music Industry to Unveil Amnesty Offer
Thu Sep 4, 9:42 PM ET Add Technology - AP to My Yahoo!


By TED BRIDIS, AP Technology Writer

WASHINGTON - The recording industry is expected to announce as early as next week an amnesty program for people who admit they illegally share music files across the Internet, promising not to sue them in exchange for their admission and pledge to delete the songs off their computers.



The offer of amnesty will not apply to the roughly 1,600 people who already have been targets of copyright subpoenas from the Recording Industry Association of America (news - web sites), which has promised to file hundreds of infringement lawsuits across the country as early as next week.


Sources who described the proposal Thursday spoke on condition of anonymity. A spokeswoman for the RIAA, Amy Weiss, declined to comment.


The RIAA's offer would require Internet users to complete a notarized amnesty form that includes promises to delete any illegally downloaded music and not participate in illegal file-trading in the future. In exchange, the RIAA would agree not to file a potentially expensive infringement lawsuit.


"I'll be curious to see how many opt for this," said Fred von Lohmann, a lawyer for the San Francisco-based Electronic Frontier Foundation, who has criticized the RIAA's use of copyright subpoenas. "It will be an interesting measure of how much fear the recording industry has managed to inject into the American public."


Von Lohmann cautioned that the RIAA doesn't represent all copyright owners and therefore couldn't guarantee an Internet user wouldn't be sued for infringement by others, despite what amounts to an admission of guilt.


"It's not the kind of agreement that most people's lawyers will embrace," he said.


But the amnesty offer could serve to soften the RIAA's brass-knuckle image once the earliest lawsuits are filed, giving nervous college students and others an opportunity to avoid similar legal problems if they confess to online copyright infringement.

raf111
September 5th, 2003, 03:21 AM
You, see... There is only one obstacle in my plan...
The obstacle I speak of, is peoples ignorance, and lack of trust in general...
Now this is the only thing, that can prevent me from achiving my gole... A gole that you people seem to have forgotten about... it is called "Freedom and Liberty for all..."

You may think, that I'm full of shit... sure, why not... I'd think like that myself... so no, you don't have to trust me... You can just sit back and watch as the file sharing community is being destroyed by the "RIAA mob".

But remember one thing... (and this is important)...

You need to be patient, but you have to understand, that for my plan to work, the timing is crucial!

"RIAA gangsters" are getting more and more aggressive everyday, so if I will not be able to gain people trust in me in time, then the "Rich dictators", WILL screw up any chance we have for my plan to work, by breaking us down into little pieces...

Please... you have to realize of how much "Power" the internet has given us... It's the power to comunicate. And comunication my friends, IS THE KEY!!!

So please, whether you belive me or not, try to help me out, by simply "spreading the word around"! That's all I ask of ya. Do what you do best... JUST TALK ABOUT ME ANYWHERE YOU CAN.

FUCK... for once in your entire lives, stop being such a narrow minded creatures, have a little faith AND TRUST ME!, because if I'm not gonna gain your trust, and my handle Raf111 will not become well known in time, then I will fail to succeed.
So if I'll fail, and I'm sorry to say that..., but we will not get a SECOND CHANCE!!!

People, just think about it for a second here...Do you see me trying to sell you something? Am I advertising and promoting anyone?.... NO!!! So why don't you wanna trust me...? You have nothing to loose, but think about what you can gain, if I'm really for real. Believe me when I tell you, that I have never, in my entire live, betrayed nobody, and I don't plan on making this time an exception.
I assure you... I don't have any hidden agenda, or some kind of hidden "Get Rich Quick" scheme...

Think people, think... I can't do it all by myself.
"THE POWER OF UNITY", is the answer to all of your questions...

And just in case if you are curious, what I do for a living, then I'll tell ya...
... absolutely nothing!
I have organized my life in such a way, that All I do , is I make a phone call to one person, to do one thing for me, then I call another one, to do something else... and guess what... I don't do shit... but people around me are doing pretty good too, so they can't complain either.
I'm not a saint. I'm just another asshole :D. I just have never been a "follower"... I'm a "free spirit" (i'm not even married), and I do what I want. I refused to obey laws made by people with "power", but I use a "moral code" as my guide instead.

So don't expect too much from me... I love my life as it is right now, and I don't want to change it, and become some kind of "public servant person". That is why I preffer to remain annonymus, so please don't be an assholes and try to find out of my true Identity.

Pebbles100
September 5th, 2003, 03:28 AM
Originally posted by RJ5500
lol. The Gestapo coming to your door over mp3s.

Hello sir, we're from the FBI. We've got reason to believe that you've in posession of CD-Rs full of "mp3" music files

Me: is this a joke?

FBI: no sir, we have no sense of humor that we are aware of

:cross

LOL! [Nazi bastards!] :) :fire :fire

Wolfie
September 5th, 2003, 03:43 AM
Originally posted by Pebbles100
you never know when the Gestapo will be at your door!


With the current DOJ I would not be surprised. That is of course if they take time out thier busy schedule of catching Osama's ppl, lol.

Omyn
September 5th, 2003, 04:01 AM
Amnesty for file sharers?

If anyone should be seeking amnesty it should be the RIAA

over charging for cd's and assaulting teen agers and elderly

people who are forced to file for bandruptcy.

Theyre just digging their own grave deeper and deeper.

raf111
September 5th, 2003, 04:24 AM
My point exactly...
But everything will change soon, because...
<Jingle music on><Raf111 is singing along...>
SANTA CLAUS IS COMMING TO YOU!!!

collideous
September 5th, 2003, 04:31 AM
/me gets ready for a wave of newbie questions.

How do I delete my files from Kazaa?

Pebbles100
September 5th, 2003, 05:10 AM
Originally posted by Wolfie
With the current DOJ I would not be surprised. That is of course if they take time out thier busy schedule of catching Osama's ppl, lol.

lol -- Osama - now there's a real threat! Not college students! :)

lizardsforall
September 5th, 2003, 05:40 AM
This Is way absurd. They already have a form to submit cdr pirates. Go ahead and sen them some spam!

http://www.cdreward.com/english/htmlform.html

when they make that form, make sure and spam them from another pc far away from the one that you dl from. They probably will log the IP address.

cheapprick
September 5th, 2003, 05:43 AM
raf111, we are actually receiving complaints about your enlarged ego and spamming efforts. I read the link in your sig, there was nothing but ego posted there.

Now positive self worth is beautiful, but actually linking to stuff you have said before is .... lacking.




But remember one thing... (and this is important)...

Calm down a bit, make posts actually worth reading, and maybe you'll earn the attention you seek.

Lehk
September 5th, 2003, 05:54 AM
:black I will send them a "photo ID" of my ass. :black

rainbowdemon
September 5th, 2003, 06:07 AM
Originally posted by Kooperman
http://au.news.yahoo.com/030904/11/lkfp.html

Hmmmm...you gonna go for this? One word, Koop.BULLSHIT!!!

jonnymnemonic
September 5th, 2003, 07:34 AM
Do NOT take this offer seriously. First of all, if you get an attorney, and it's a competent attorney, and you tell HIM you are guilty and ask whether you should accept this offer, he will tell you no way. Why? Because even if you follow through, and delete every file, melt every CD, there's still no guarantee that one of the ARTISTS won't sue you. No, the RIAA won't, true, but an artist or an individual label might still do so. And if they DO sue you, you've just dumped a free admission of guilt into their lap via this amnesty admission, which they can subpoena from the RIAA.

Whether you are guilty or not, whether you think they're going to come after you or not, do NOT accept this amnesty offer, because it won't help you and it *could* hurt you. If you doubt me, ask any competent lawyer and he or she will tell you the same thing.

Jelsoft
September 5th, 2003, 08:02 AM
Yes, confess your file sharing sins to the almighty RIAA and all shall be forgiven! Don't risk damnation! :shy

Doesn't seem odd the music industry is being "nice" all of a sudden.

-Price cuts?
-Giving file traders some slack?

This sounds more like desperate acts than offering positive to the consumers.

FreakinWeasel
September 5th, 2003, 08:31 AM
This little snipet from Ed over at overclockers.com and bear in mind the RIAA thing is currently a civil issue:

The RIAA has announced an amnesty program. From the link:

"According to sources, the RIAA will not pursue legal action if infringers delete all unauthorized music files from their computers, destroy all copies (including CD-Rs) and promise not to upload such material in the future. Each infringing household member will have to send a completed, notarized amnesty form to the RIAA, with a copy of a photo ID. Those who renege on their promise will be subject to charges of willful copyright infringement (our emphasis).

It's not much of an amnesty program when someone the RIAA doesn't know about are supposed to take actions that would prevent them from ever knowing about you in the future.

But that's not the important point, and every P2Per websites I've seen completely missed it.

The important point is the term "willful copyright infringement." If you have "willful" copyright infringement, criminal charges can be made against you. That means jail. See link:
http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/506.html

If you actually did what the RIAA suggested, complete with notarized statements and all, and they caught you at it again, you've given them a ready-made criminal case tied with a bow proving "willfulness" which they can then hand over to the authorities to try and get you a stay at Club Fed.

This is too much even for me.

While I don't think P2Pers have been exactly hammering the RIAA site looking for the amnesty form :), actually doing this would come close to qualifying you for a Darwin Award (non-lethal class, anyway).

If you want to come clean, and fly right, just get rid of the stuff and sin no more. EOM from Ed.

FW sez: that it sometimes pays to visit sites that DON'T promote P2P because every now and then they make some sense! Not about the "getting rid of thing" but the criminal thing!

dtm1956
September 5th, 2003, 09:47 AM
:fire How stupid do they think we are, even if everything they say is true our ISP's would have all the proof they need to shut down our connections to the internet and we know that the RIIA lies to get their information.

raf111
September 5th, 2003, 12:03 PM
I just cannot believe this...


My main post in here entitled: "RIAA & their GANG SHALL lose the war against us....txt", was locked almost instantly. Almost every reply I've gotten was just one sided, narow minded, and without giving a single valid point, they where not capable to back up their statements with a single true factvaBut it's not the only thing.
They are pathetic, it was like cry for help... because they knew they were losing our debate.

But there thats not all, there is more...

Originally posted by cheapprick
raf111, we are actually receiving complaints about your enlarged ego and spamming efforts. I read the link in your sig, there was nothing but ego posted there.

Spamming? what spamming? I'm not assotiated with any organization, I didn't advertise any business, and I wasn't trying to sell any products... So just please tell me, what exactly did I do for to deserve being tried to "shut me up".

Originally posted by cheapprick
Now positive self worth is beautiful, but actually linking to stuff you have said before is .... lacking.

Now that's actually very interesting... Every single server hosting a "PUBLIC forum" That I was being active, has been disabled, and cannot be accessed, exept this one... what creates a question... Just who the hell ownes and controls this "ZEROPAID" site, who in fact are all those people that are on the RIAA side and are trying to defend every single action taken by the RIAA.
NOW I'm positive.... This site is a fake, it's a means to implement a "Scare tactics" for their "Comercial propaganda" purposes.

QUOTE]Originally posted by cheapprick

But remember one thing... (and this is important)...

Calm down a bit, make posts actually worth reading, and maybe you'll earn the attention you seek. [/QUOTE]

And yet you've read it, and it was so popular that it atracted 3 pages of replies, within just an hour or so...

YES it was very controvertial, but please tell me... Isn't a contoversy and exchange of views a main purpose of any discussion board. And since when, public speaking, and just having an oppinion, has become something, that had to be prevented. Did you expect everyone to share your views? How can you have an interesting conversation, if everyone agrees, and deffends only one side?...

You tried to shut me up, and prevent me from revieling the true intensions of people on this forum... You succeded for now, but I will not shut up, and nothing will prevent me from reaching to public ears. My independency is a main reason, why the "RIAA's spies" got scared that they are begining to lose control over public and their public opinion which had been programed by the many years of mass media propaganda.

But I could be wrong... so you have a nice day now...

Kooperman
September 5th, 2003, 12:20 PM
Will some mod please vaporize this spamming rabble rouser? All he does is disrupt and agitate.

FutureIverson
September 5th, 2003, 12:31 PM
Originally posted by Kooperman
Will some mod please vaporize this spamming rabble rouser? All he does is disrupt and agitate.

I second that don't come here with a bull shit attitude, you havent been here 14 months or anything, follow the same rules we do. Neither have I but if i say something that is objectable mods are in control bitch welcome to the real world, this isn't school where you can fuck with your teachers.

Stop being an asshole, admit you were wrong and move on. (excuse the swearing i don't even swear in real life just online)

Kooperman
September 5th, 2003, 12:45 PM
Many thanks to the mod squad!!

rainbowdemon
September 5th, 2003, 12:50 PM
My independency is a main reason, why the "RIAA's spies" got scared that they are begining to lose control over public and their public opinion which had been programed by the many years of mass media propaganda. Correct me if I'm wrong. But is this guy trying to say that he scares the riaa. What an asshole!!!!

FreakinWeasel
September 5th, 2003, 02:18 PM
Hey dammit I wanted to see where this guy was going. I sounded like he might strap some dynamite to his ass and run into the RIAA offices. Shoot, guess I'll just have to read about it in the papers now and remember raf111 fondly.:wings

Kyle06
September 5th, 2003, 03:10 PM
hahaha I think they getting despreat they can't sue everyone in the us muhahahaha...

FreakinWeasel
September 8th, 2003, 04:30 PM
This just in guys! What you all have been waiting for!

The latest RIAA Amnesty form.
Amnesty Form Beta Amnesty Form Beta (http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20030907&mode=classic)

Kooperman
September 8th, 2003, 04:33 PM
Originally posted by FreakinWeasel
This just in guys! What you all have been waiting for!

The latest RIAA Amnesty form.
Amnesty Form Beta Amnesty Form Beta (http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20030907&mode=classic)
You know, I think the actual forms are available on the RIAA web site, but I don't have much interest in going there and fetching one.

ROMANTICGUY50
September 8th, 2003, 04:42 PM
I wouldn't trust the RIAA. You turn your name in is just plain stupid. You would be screwed Plain and Simple

rainbowdemon
September 8th, 2003, 05:34 PM
Great!! I'm going to fill mine out right now. LMFAO

FutureIverson
September 8th, 2003, 05:38 PM
has anyone actually turned it in?

thewhitrbbit
September 8th, 2003, 05:41 PM
fox 5 is encouraging ppl who shared files years ago to sign up for this.

i hate fox news.

Wolfie
September 8th, 2003, 05:42 PM
Originally posted by FutureIverson
has anyone actually turned it in?

I highly doubt anyone here would fall for something so obvious. They'd get heckled and ripped even worst than the kazaagold users, lol.

Wolfie
September 8th, 2003, 05:55 PM
You delete or destroy all copyrighted sound recordings that you or others illegally downloaded to your computer(s) or devices (including all storage and portable devices) using a P2P Network, and all copies you have of those files in any format (including CD-R).

My question how are they going to enforce this stipulation of the agreement?

Hypothetically if I have 50,000 mp3 already and I decide I don't want to do filesharing anymore what's stopping me from the keeping the burned cd-r or mp3s on harddrive that is not shared?



:mellow

Kooperman
September 8th, 2003, 06:11 PM
Look at the initial post in this thread for the Amnesty form....

rainbowdemon
September 8th, 2003, 06:17 PM
Originally posted by Kooperman
Look at the initial post in this thread for the Amnesty form.... Because it has to be notarized? That doesn't mean much. Who has ever lied to a notary? I'm sure it happens all the time.

Wolfie
September 8th, 2003, 06:20 PM
Originally posted by rainbowdemon
Because it has to be notarized? That doesn't mean much. Who has ever lied to a notary? I'm sure it happens all the time.

True and the notary does not come to your house to witness if you destroyed the copyrighted material. For all they know you could have all that stuff stashed somewhere out of sight.

Psilaxs
September 8th, 2003, 06:37 PM
This truly boggles my mind.

They must truly think they have us scared as hell.

If they really wanted to give us "Amnesty" they would drop the current charges on the kids they are trying to sue for money.

If you haven't been "caught" there is no need for this.

(of course this has already been said by other members)

REDO
September 8th, 2003, 06:45 PM
Amnesty is for people that have already been found guilty. People that have already been served with subpeonas dont qualify for this amnesty contract. So if you havent been caught, why do this?

rainbowdemon
September 8th, 2003, 06:57 PM
Originally posted by REDO
Amnesty is for people that have already been found guilty. People that have already been served with subpeonas dont qualify for this amnesty contract. So if you havent been caught, why do this? Because as Psilaxs has already said;They must truly think they have us scared as hell. They truly are a bunch of arrogant bastards!!

FreakinWeasel
September 8th, 2003, 07:50 PM
Actually the form I linked to is NOT the RIAA form. Unless, they actually do ask if you already have a Proctologist, if not one will be appointed to you......:;)