Social disobedience for change....a small suggestion.

[\/oodoo Child]

Want to give the RIAA fits?

Pick a day to give a free cd away to someone with a little note explaining why you are giving away the cd. If you're worried about getting into trouble, leave it somewhere, like the local laundry, bus stop, library etc.

How much will it cost you? $0.50 max. Pick a cd that they are trying to sell, a recent release, d/l it, burn it and give it away. In the note ask the person that finds it to give it to someone who would probably buy that disc. Explain why you gave it away. Explain that the RIAA is bringing lawsuits against people for $175,000 / song being downloaded and you beleive that is wrong.

You would be amazed at what you can accomplish with a little social disobedience. If this can be organized on specific days and enough people participate this WILL hit the news, and may even shed some light on the pigopoly that is the RIAA.

[rainbowdemon]

Not a bad idea! Don't know if it will accomplish anything, but it's worth a try.

[que-em]

How about a chain letter CD mailing list. I buy a CD then mail it to someone else..... and on and on. Someone else can think of the detaisl of how we index where the CDs are and how we get them to the person that wants it.

[FreakinWeasel]

I wonder why nobody ever suggest boycotting the artists in all this. If you want ot really piss off the RIAA then stop going to concerts and supporting artists that support the RIAA. Send the message up to them that you won't support them, if they or their labels supports the RIAA. After the artists figure out that their fans don't approve of them supporting such a corrupt organization then maybe they can bitch loud enough to be heard. I know you think that the artists are the hurting ones but in this case any pleas you make to the RIAA will fall on deaf ears and blind eyes. If the mainstream and indie artists get involved at the contractual level then maybe we will see some changes. But again we need to have a unified cause. I still have yet to see that.
Voodoochild, what exactly are you protesting, the high cost of CD's, that fact you're downloading music for free and they want to stop you, the artist not getting paid enough, which is it? What's our message?

[FutureIverson]

yeah i'm going to some of my fav artist web pages and telling people to stop supporting them until they take a stand. goof first post Child. Welcome to Zeropaid.com, carrying on isus' avatar

[\/oodoo Child]

Everyone's gonna have thier own reasons. For me, I have a few:

1. I bought some cd's, but can only play them on 1 of my cd players (a boombox). My main cd player cant read it cause of the copy protection on it. I cant play it on my 'puter either without installing something off the cd which I refuse to do. That pisses me off.

2. Why are the cd's I do buy twice the cost of a DVD with a ton of extra features? That pisses me off.

3. Why does the riaa think they can police what I do on my pc? That is what we have law enforcement agencies for. I dont need private lobbying groups taking the law into thier own hands. That pisses me off.

4. Why can they haul people into court and cause headaches for people with out any proof? If I make an accusation and want to take someone to court the burden is on me to provide reasonable proof of harm.......The riaa doesnt even bother to d/l the files they accuse you of pirating. That pisses me off.


I really dont care if people get busted and prosecuted. If you are giving copyrighted stuff away, you're taking that chance and cant claim ignorance. Just like someone with a pot plant in his basement and selling out of his living room. You get busted, you deal with it. But if people were getting arrested for having a poster of a pot leaf on thier bedroom wall, I would have a serious problem with it.

The laws are pretty farked up right now and things need to change. We elect the people that make the laws. They work for us. If we dont like things the way they are WE can change them. It's our right to change them.

I've been leaving cd's with a one page letter in the jewel case at various public places for a while now. My little way of protest.....and "sticking it to the man". ;)

If you think this is something you would like to do, go for it. *I* think its worth while and just wanted to plant the seeds for dissent in other peoples minds. Saying screw it, I'll keep sharing no matter what.....doesnt do much. Know why? Most people DONT d/l music and really dont give a damn about the geeks that do. It's the ones who arent online, dont d/l, and dont know anything about whats happening that I am trying to educate.

Maybe I'm just nuts for thinking I can make a lick of difference.....but at least I'm trying *something*.

[Nooby Doo]

I think that's a great idea and i'm seriously thinking about doing that tommorow. Maybe even go one step further and hand out burnt copies of the top selling cd's in front of music stores. Thanks for the suggestion.

[tMoD]

I had a somewhat similar idea, though it doesn't sound as cool and protesty as Voodoo Child's, something to ease the pain of the RIAA boycott a little. Organize CD-buying clubs in each library system in the US and buy as many RIAA albums as you can, preferably used, donate them to the library, and encourage everyone to check the albums out; just for a "listen" *wink* *wink*.

[FreakinWeasel]

Originally posted by tMoD
I had a somewhat similar idea, though it doesn't sound as cool and protesty as Voodoo Child's, something to ease the pain of the RIAA boycott a little. Organize CD-buying clubs in each library system in the US and buy as many RIAA albums as you can, preferably used, donate them to the library, and encourage everyone to check the albums out; just for a "listen" *wink* *wink*.

Well this is a great and noble idea tMoD and I'm not being sarcastic. I have used the local library several times in the past month and they are certainly a great way to find new older music!

[Lucian]

Give away CDs, its a great idea. Even better than selling used CDs.

Of course if you can get your money back (selling used cds) makes more sense.

[Lucian]

"I think that's a great idea and i'm seriously thinking about doing that tommorow. Maybe even go one step further and hand out burnt copies of the top selling cd's in front of music stores. Thanks for the suggestion."

Why hand out burnt copies? if enough people hand out the originals it will do just as much damage but personally I'd rather sell used CDs so that I know its a direct profit loss on the RIAA.

Anyone will accept free stuff, but you want to steal sales.

[FreakinWeasel]

"Why hand out burnt copies? if enough people hand out the originals it will do just as much damage but personally I'd rather sell used CDs so that I know its a direct profit loss on the RIAA."

Lucian, your not making any sense here. Selling used CD does not make any money for the RIAA, record co., artist etc. It does make money for the record store, who currently is getting a raw deal from the record companies. Maybe you meant something else but it looks like this to me. Donating them to the library would be a much better idea because then endless amounts of people can check them out and copy them. Now that hurts!

[Nooby Doo]

Why hand out burnt copies? if enough people hand out the originals it will do just as much damage but personally I'd rather sell used CDs so that I know its a direct profit loss on the RIAA.

Good point Lucian. Either, or.

[IshareManyFilez]

I woulden't make a burnt copy, id actually take a real cd that i didn't like anymore and give it to a friend to keep. You could start a whole cycle, just like the way mp3's are traded on a network.

[stevenkao]

great idea, but not sure if enough people will participate to make a difference.

[Krell]

Originally posted by stevenkao
great idea, but not sure if enough people will participate to make a difference.

We told him that in the last few alias he had, he just doesnt get it.

Meanwhile, he's hell bent on "sticking it to the man"

[Jim Morrison]

I tell u what we need to do, just quit worrying about there asses and keep on downloading, theres your disobediance

[TronixA]

Let's set up an internet fund to put a hitman on Cary Sherman and the rest of the rogues... nuff said:fire

[Xtaycee_n_your_coffee]

Know what would really T-off RIAA, If everyone who uses P2P and burns a CD with 18 songs on it and mail it to there headquaters. Use artist like Britany Spears, Ludacris, and other Top ranking artist. Just make sure when you get ready to start, get a pair of rubber gloves and make sure you don't put an return address. :angel

Do you know how many CD's they would get if everyone participates ...LOL. But sigh... Eventually someone will forget to wear rubber gloves and put their return address on the CD package and mess up the whole fun trick..lol

[aqlo]

Why waste good CDs on them? Give em to people who will love em

Could mail something to the RIAA though
Just not anything good :mellow

[tMoD]

Originally posted by TronixA
Let's set up an internet fund to put a hitman on Cary Sherman and the rest of the rogues... nuff said:fire

Thanks for the bad PR, dude.

[TronixA]

Perhaps I should clarify that I meant that tongue-in-cheek. Last thing I need is the FBI knocking on my door, making accusations that I am plotting to take down the Gestapo... :mellow

[Xtaycee_n_your_coffee]

I saw this funny cartoon on slate.com website. I think if we did boycott concerts and stop buying CD's and such, this might actually happen, and give some shock to the artist.


RIAA Cartoon (http://cagle.slate.msn.com/news/MusicSwappers/MusicSwappingifs/jones.gif)

P.S., okay i agree, that's to much money to spend just to send them a CD. Let's use AOL CD's and burn over them....lol and send those in.

[CCSDUDE]

I just skimmed the thread as the RIAA bores me to death....they can suck my cock.

All I wanna add are a few points...

Buy a full spindle of cheapo 100 pack discs (go for WHITE verbatims as they will take a beating and a beating is what they'll get if you plant them out in the world)....it'll cost you 30 bucks max at Sam's club or any other warehouse type place.

Now....download 4 different full albums that have been released within the last month or so...

Burn 25 copies of each album and write/stamp/ect "NOT FOR SALE" on the disc itself then toss a postit or something on the disc with your plight on it and drop them off at 1 or 2 am on a weeknight at random places...news vendor boxes/train stations/coffee machines at work/whatever lol

Do that as often as you can....90 bucks for 300 CD's someone may copy and pass out to more people is worth it IMHO.

Just make sure you add something like "please help the cause and make a few copies of this disc along with it's message and 'no sale' tag, thanks."

Good idea though....I suggest some of you post some info on new 'crap rock' and 'rap' CD's out in stores a week or so before they actually hit if possible...and maybe add info about it being 'released' on the net sooner then release date so we can get it out faster.

Ah also if your worried about killing a good burner...go order yourself a 30 -35 dollar Norcent CDRW 32-40x drive...they are cheap and DO last in the long run.

[Omyn]

What about on the 12th of every month?

Every month you burn a few cd's and randomly distribute them at libraries and stuff.

You can buy a pack of 50 CD-R's for about 15 dollars so it doesnt even cost you that much.

12th (12 yr old) just for sh!ts and giggles.

[Omyn]

I have another idea, didnt feel like editing my last post.

Stick them in peoples mail boxes at night time, what would be greater than that.

Sure you get all these "free" offers in your mailbox from companies that spam entire cities for profits, wouldnt it be nice to actually get a cd for free though.

Also print out a little flyer explaining why you do it, and to try to get others into doing it as well.

[rainbowdemon]

Stick them in peoples mail boxes at night time, what would be greater than that Not a bad idea. Except for one thing. Putting anything other than mail in a mailbox is a federal offense.

[Kooperman]

Originally posted by rainbowdemon
Not a bad idea. Except for one thing. Putting anything other than mail in a mailbox is a federal offense.

With no parole for Britney, Justin or Christina cd's.

[Omyn]

Your also missing the point.

It is also an offense to be distributing illegal copies of the cd's in the first place :]

Fine, what you could do is stick the flyer inside of the envelope and stick the cd in as well and tape it on their doors.

[rainbowdemon]

Originally posted by Omyn
Your also missing the point.

It is also an offense to be distributing illegal copies of the cd's in the first place :]

Fine, what you could do is stick the flyer inside of the envelope and stick the cd in as well and tape it on their doors. No point missed. Just an additional point made.

[rainbowdemon]

Originally posted by Kooperman
With no parole for Britney, Justin or Christina cd's. Life with no possibility of parole for that.

[Omyn]

Either way "the man" will be coming for you.

Dude you also missed metallica.

[shawners]

I got a better idea to hit masses.. Put 50 cd r's burnt of various artist, Put them in a plastic bag. And Make a Sign that says boycott riaa, and put a p2p site to them, like zeropaid.com file sharing portal or supportp2p.com and say "Please Take one For the road" A big sign in front of a intersection medium or in a mall type area. I mean the possibilities are endless. .Or burn a few cd's and send them to news television studios with a letter of why your protesting and things riaa is done. or will do. anywhere that gets alot of traffic for signs to be put into ground. Or File sharing bumper stickers be nice to have on your car.

[Malicious Intent]

Does anyone remember the attempted "penny pinchers" against banks? The plan was in protest of charges for using cash machines, everyone was going to write a check for 1 penny to everyone the knew. It costs banks 15p to process a check, so with millions of people handing out a load of checks, it was supposed to cost banks £millions.
Despite a huge newspaper campaign, it came to nothing. A plan like this will therefore get no where. Mind you, banks don't charge for cash machines....

[rainbowdemon]

Mind you, banks don't charge for cash machines.... Unless it's the bank where your account is ,oh yes they do. As much as $2.00, at least in America.

[The Hunter]

They charge you in Canada also, although depending on what type of account you have you will have a varying number of free bank machine transactions. The ones to watch out for are the grey area machines in the corner stores. Use these machines and you will be milked quite nicely. In plain language you will be milked dry with sore tits.

[Malicious Intent]

Originally posted by rainbowdemon
Unless it's the bank where your account is ,oh yes they do. As much as $2.00, at least in America.

Thats what they were trying to introduce here - charging people who don't have an account with them. The whole idea fell through in the end and we don't have any charging. Infact, they have gone the other way - proudly boosting they don't charge on adverts and the machines say things like "XXXXXX Bank will not charge you for this transaction". Arn't they nice? That means that I won't be adding an extra £1.50 to their £billion profits!

[Lamourlady]

man i hate those machines, but sometimes i have to use them....$1.50 a pop.......basturds!!!!!!!!!

[Potato]

Unless it's the bank where your account is ,oh yes they do. As much as $2.00, at least in America.

I went to a concert a few years back... the ATM fee was $4.50. I almost cried. Stupid Warped Tour ATMs. Almost fell over because I was so thirsty... and cheap.

[CCSDUDE]

I went to a concert a few years back... the ATM fee was $4.50. I almost cried. Stupid Warped Tour ATMs. Almost fell over because I was so thirsty... and cheap.
Holy shit.... I bawk at $1.50 'service fees' on ATMs.... I'll even go as far as hunting down ones from my own bank to get around them.