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MaceUK
August 20th, 2003, 01:11 AM
Right ive downloaded a number of mp3's in the past week and they dont work, why do ppl share files that dont work, it gets me really mad.

The mp3's use the SafeAudio copyright system, why dont ppl use the workaround when ripping the mp3's its easy to get around for FUCK sake why is kazaa full of THICK STUPID IDIOTS who share shite unusable files.

If this continues Kazaa will be dead, the only thing i use it for now is videos, MP3's dont work, Most software dont work all becuase Kazaa users are stupid and dont know anything about anything.

Kazaa used to be better with less users (when there was about 1 million on line), the files worked and the downloads were faster, now its full of ppl who cant even detect a FUCKED file that dont work.

Every1 who reads ths do me 1 favour plz, if you download a file that dont work DELETE it so others can not download it.

triniti
August 20th, 2003, 01:26 AM
When you have upwards of 4 million simultaneous users then "CRAP" spreads very quickly, kinda like gossip. :santa Also kinda like this dumb thread.

maartendc
August 20th, 2003, 01:28 AM
Why is zeropaid so full of STUPID FUCKS who always post SHIT that everyone knows the FUCK already? I mean, its a FUCKIN fact that kazaa has fake files. Everyone knows this. But DUMB PRICKS that post stuff about it OVER AND OVER AGAIN is so much worse. If this continues, ZEROPAID WILL BE DEAD.

Zeropaid used to be better with less users (when there was about 1 million on line), the threads weren't as dumb and the forums were cleaner, now its full of ppl who cant even detect a FAQ that works.

Lemme just ask 1 thing to the mods. If you see any of these threads DELETE IT so that others can't waste their time on it.

triniti
August 20th, 2003, 01:30 AM
It should also be noted that this person is double posting this crap in the boards as well. May as well call it spamming, same titles.

The Hunter
August 20th, 2003, 01:40 AM
The other thread has been locked, if they were to do a search, this topic has been discussed to death.

jonnymnemonic
August 20th, 2003, 02:25 AM
It's probably RIAA or MPAA folks posting about the fakes all the time, to induce people to think that the problem is worse than it really is. Virtually anyone with an ounce of common sense can pretty much totally avoid fakes on KaZaA AND get piles of good quality stuff.

MaceUK
August 20th, 2003, 02:49 AM
but why does ppl share these files

Try downloading songs from Lumidee or black eyed peas then you will know what im on about.

Ive been using kazaa for the past 2 years and every mp3 that i downloaded worked but now 75% that i download dont work, surly you can see why im a bit pissed off

matt merch
August 20th, 2003, 03:01 AM
Originally posted by MaceUK
but why does ppl share these files

Try downloading songs from Lumidee or black eyed peas then you will know what im on about.

Ive been using kazaa for the past 2 years and every mp3 that i downloaded worked but now 75% that i download dont work, surly you can see why im a bit pissed off

you are truly a typical kazaa user thank you for reminding me why i dont use that crap

MaceUK
August 20th, 2003, 03:08 AM
Matt Merch, Why because i expect a file to work

matt merch
August 20th, 2003, 03:11 AM
no because u spam this forum with stuff that is so obvious and swear like a little child who has had his toys taken away from him like no one here is aware kazaa has fake files
what next you will be telling us the earth is round ?

MaceUK
August 20th, 2003, 03:18 AM
Yeah fake files are all fine and dandy you normally can tell that there fake before you download them (wrong filesize etc), but when you do a search for a song and 100 results come back and you download all of the songs and 1 or 2 of them work, well thats just stupid.

Thats why kazaa is DEAD (appart from video and oldish mp3's) because alot of new songs just dont work anymore.

Tell you what do a search for the artists above (black eyed peas) in kazaa and i bet most of the sorces if not all wont work once there downloaded. Well they might work but itll be the same bit of the song repeated or the song with gaps in.

Fake files was never a problem but now its becoming a big problem just becuase ppl dont delete them.

ferrarimodena360
August 20th, 2003, 03:32 AM
lol

welcome to zp.....yes we are like this!!!

and move off kazaa.......

i suggest dc++ (http://dcplusplus.sourceforge.net/)

lol funny i got lumidee this morning (i will edit for mentioning lumidee if suggested)

johnsmatrix
August 20th, 2003, 03:36 AM
Originally posted by MaceUK
Yeah fake files are all fine and dandy you normally can tell that there fake before you download them (wrong filesize etc), but when you do a search for a song and 100 results come back and you download all of the songs and 1 or 2 of them work, well thats just stupid.

Thats why kazaa is DEAD (appart from video and oldish mp3's) because alot of new songs just dont work anymore.

Tell you what do a search for the artists above (Lumidee or black eyed peas) in kazaa and i bet most of the sorces if not all wont work once there downloaded.

Fake files was never a problem but now its becoming a big problem just becuase ppl dont delete them.

Every1 who reads ths do me 1 favour plz, if you download a file that dont work DELETE it so others can not download it.

And your telling Zeropaid members this? Uh hmm...

Kazaa is not DEAD first off(4,000,000 users). Use the preview button, this will save you a stroke at an early posting age. I see no reason for this (not really a debate, just pointless banter) debate. I see you have 3 options.

#1. Stop complaining (bitching) and use one of the other 100 or so P2P appz out there.
#2. Get high speed DSL or Cable. No worries (stop whining) when a song takes 30 seconds for download.
#3. Preview the file and stop posting useless fact (crap) that nobody really cares about....

I use Kazaa. I look for the files with the most sources. Up to date songs mind you.. I've only seen 1 fake for every 10 or so.. Welcome to Zeropaid by the way

MaceUK
August 20th, 2003, 03:44 AM
ok ok

1) I have high speed cable modem 1MBit and sone files still only download at 4KB or so
2) For me the fake thing has only just became a problem becuase theres alot of fake stuff out there, I like kazaa i just dont want ppl ruin it by sharing fake files
3) I posted this on this forum becuase it came up first in google so i presume allot of ppl look at this forum..
4) even files with alot of sources are somtimes "fake"

The files arnt actually fake the song downloads it just has gapsin the audio.

ferra i just downloaded 20 different sources of lumidee's single never leave you, only 1 worked. Most of the downloads had lots of sources too and downloaded fast. Well all of them worked just most of them (19) had gaps in the audio when played though media player 9, winamp and MD Dukebox.

Thanks anyway its nice to know that every1 isnt after my blood here.

matt merch
August 20th, 2003, 03:49 AM
Originally posted by MaceUK
ok ok

1) I have high speed cable modem 1MBit and sone files still only download at 4KB or so
2) For me the fake thing has only just became a problem becuase theres alot of fake stuff out there, I like kazaa i just dont want ppl ruin it by sharing fake files
3) I posted this on this forum becuase it came up first in google so i presume allot of ppl look at this forum..
4) even files with alot of sources are somtimes "fake"

The files arnt actually fake the song downloads it just has gapsin the audio.

1 you posted this thread twice thats called spammin
2 yes there fake files out their that is well know fact coming here and moaning is not gonna change that
3 kazaa is not a place to look for quality files
4 get over it

ps welcome and love your spelling

MaceUK
August 20th, 2003, 03:52 AM
Matt whatever

BTW i posted that other thread by accident, its my first time here and i posted this thread first didnt know where it went so i posted it again in the other forum thingy. Sorry if that affended you but id hardly call it spamming, 2 cloned posts does it really bother you that much

Theres no need for ppl to start having a go at me too i only had a go at fake file shareers, If this thread bothers you just ignore it.

Originally posted by matt merch

ps welcome and love your spelling

Yeah well my spelling gets kinda erratic when i type fast because im just soooo MAD :devil

johnsmatrix
August 20th, 2003, 04:09 AM
MaceUK

It's not so much people taking shots at you, rather it is the thread you posted. See, if you did a forum search on lets say "fake files" you would find this:

http://www.zeropaid.com/bbs/showthread.php?s=&threadid=12694&highlight=fake+files

Now on that thread the poster was told that this subject was already discussed here...and to please use the search button.

http://www.zeropaid.com/bbs/showthread.php?threadid=12674

Now your post was about Kazaa fake files which is Very well known around here but notice the tone of your post.

Kazaa FOOLS Right ive downloaded a number of mp3's in the past week and they dont work, why do ppl share files that dont work, it gets me really mad. The mp3's use the SafeAudio copyright system, why dont ppl use the workaround when ripping the mp3's its easy to get around for FUCK sake why is kazaa full of THICK STUPID IDIOTS who share shite unusable files. If this continues Kazaa will be dead, the only thing i use it for now is videos, MP3's dont work, Most software dont work all becuase Kazaa users are stupid and dont know anything about anything. Kazaa used to be better with less users (when there was about 1 million on line), the files worked and the downloads were faster, now its full of ppl who cant even detect a FUCKED file that dont work. Every1 who reads ths do me 1 favour plz, if you download a file that dont work DELETE it so others can not download it.

You know it, I know it, Zeropaid knows it... You tone just pisses people off because it's nothing new and you would have known this had you done a search.. So don't take the backlash personally...It just came off somewhat whiny.... But well all just move on. Why did I take the time to explain all this? I don't have a clue.
:fire :fire :fire :fire :fire

MaceUK
August 20th, 2003, 04:13 AM
ok i get the message, lesson learnt.

BUT fake files just makes me soooo MAD

matt merch
August 20th, 2003, 04:19 AM
Originally posted by MaceUK
ok i get the message, lesson learnt.

BUT fake files just makes me soooo MAD

most ppl do hate fake files but we get over it and go elsewhere vote with your feet if somthing dont work for you go elsewhere its not like there are not alternatives p2p progs with verified content don't complain just use a decent p2p

Sperwer
August 20th, 2003, 04:26 AM
:devil
Isnt this why there is a message option in Kazaa? isnt it time to kick of all inresponsive people who share crap?

:error
Downloading people are really mad nowdays: I downloaded a file with virus. When I disconnected people and informed of them of the corruption they were not happy but got angry...

:finger
Why help that kind of dudes. Maybe the crap is going the right way?

:shoot
Whats your opinion 'bout this matter: active shittracking and reduction or let every1 find out himself....

tidal
August 20th, 2003, 04:27 AM
kazaa just isn't the same anymore... but change is a fact of life and for somebody with so many complaints i wonder why you don't just switch to something else if you hate kazaa so much...

Sperwer
August 20th, 2003, 06:01 AM
why you don't just switch to something else if you hate kazaa so much...

I thought bogussharing isn't a softwareproblem (kazaa) but a moronproblem?!
So what use is another p2p prog the problems will follow?

Ken17625
August 20th, 2003, 06:40 AM
BTW i posted that other thread by accident, its my first time here and i posted this thread first didnt know where it went so i posted it again in the other forum thingy. Sorry if that affended you but id hardly call it spamming, 2 cloned posts does it really bother you that much

Considering your attitude towards posting, I think it might help you a little bit to read this BEFORE you post anymore.

It'll save you from future thread deletion/closing and/or post deletion. It'll also save you headaches.

http://www.zeropaid.com/bbs/announcement.php?forumid=50

random
August 20th, 2003, 06:59 AM
kazaa is full of fake files now because the riaa is releasing boatloads of fake mp3s into the system, either move off kazaa or quit ur whining

tidal
August 20th, 2003, 03:30 PM
Originally posted by Sperwer
I thought bogussharing isn't a softwareproblem (kazaa) but a moronproblem?!
So what use is another p2p prog the problems will follow?

it is a software problem friend... if you consider flooding the netowrk with fakes files to be software related and i consider an mp3 among "software" though that interpretation is rather loose i'll admit... and the problems won't necessarilly follow... i know that dc bans you if you're sharing fakes and i think it would be a good idea to implement that in other p2p applications as well... merely banning IP's isn't enough, we need to ban users (name and/or IP) that flood the networks with fake files or are too lazy to delete them...

-0-BACKLASH-0-
August 20th, 2003, 03:42 PM
I don't think it should be a problem if ppl come in with a question regarding a topic that might have been asked already, however many times that may be.

Are you not here to help out the community...if you can? Most ppl just want an answer and don't go reading the forum rules or searching the whole forum for threads that pertain to their question. I just don't really feel like you guys actually want to help ppl. In fact, I get a very nasty impression of certain ppl who have to "bash the n00b" or comment that it's been asked a 100 times. who cares?? Are u mad that u clicked on a thread and it wasn't exciting enough?

I would think some ppl could be a little more inviting to those who haven't been around this forum for a long time. What's gonna make them stay if the first replies are mean?

just a thought

tidal
August 20th, 2003, 04:01 PM
backlash... i totally and completely agree with you. i've been surfing through a lot of these threads and all i keep reading is "this has been asked before" or "read the faq" or any other number of excuses. lets face it, people are lazy... i am.. im sure most of you out there are as well.. how helpful is it to just point down the road to a gas station when you know the directions the traveler needs yourself? i think that the masses would be much more educated and these forums would be much more welcoming if we stopped bashing people like me who are new to the forums and haven't had all day to sift through each and every thread for the obscure bit of truth we're looking for...

kenny g
August 24th, 2003, 03:39 AM
It isn't a matter of trawling through every post . Use the search engine. ( top right hand corner)

markg33uk
August 24th, 2003, 03:56 AM
try downloading mp3's of 192kbit and above, since i've been doing this i've not had 1 fake, maybe i've just been lucky

shawners
August 24th, 2003, 03:59 AM
Their are more fakes out there.. For example.. They scare away a million users cause of lawsuits, Alot of them are smart people who really just went to a new network and dont want to be caught.. So alot of high quality mp3 and loads of it went away, youll see more fakes. And the Recording industry will be searching the networks for NEW recordingds that havent been released yet.. So anyone that puts anything new out will be the biggest target to date!! IF a album hits the market in two weeks and it gets leaked on the net.. they will find the source very fast and in prison him. =(

seraph
August 24th, 2003, 04:03 AM
It's not that users who share fake files are idiots, its just a matter of laziness . It all started wit one guy/girl who labeled their song/software/video wrongly (on purpose or by accident, doesn't matter!!!!). Then all that needed to happen is that one person downloads the file and doesn't bother lookin at it, cause he/she simply downloaded every file in his/her search list in order to e.g test his/her new broadband connection. Then that basically just kept on goin.....It's not that the ppl intentionally share fake files, its just cause they can't be bothered goin through all their files and checkin their integrity!!!!

MaceUK
August 24th, 2003, 05:31 AM
Tidal your right, the next version of kazaa should have a banning module which bans every person who shares fake files, but how would such a system work. It would have to ban IP's becuase user names are not unique in kazaa

Platinum Theory
August 24th, 2003, 05:41 AM
no because u spam this forum with stuff that is so obvious and swear like a little child who has had his toys taken away from him like no one here is aware kazaa has fake files

Couldnt Have Said it better myself!

didalong
August 24th, 2003, 06:15 AM
A simple way to get your music without the hassel of first comparing the files you're downloading and than going to all the trouble to listen to all of them before you have to mess with formats or editing and then lining them up in an order that sounds good is

JUST GO TO A RECORD STORE AND BUY A PROFESSIONALLY MADE CD!

They are of a higher quality than anything you'll ever be able to make on your computer.

Even if you do learn how to use it.

MaceUK
August 24th, 2003, 06:48 AM
Platinum Theory my toy has been broken Kazaa i cant download music no more.

didalong i do buy music cd's but its better to download whole albums before buying them so you can see if its any good another thing is its good to download an album thats not yet out so you can preview it and then if its any good buy it once it comes out.

Platinum Theory
August 24th, 2003, 07:15 AM
Platinum Theory my toy has been broken Kazaa i cant download music no more.

For Frekin Sake, There Are Other P2P Apps Like Kazaa, You do know that right?, You sound like one of those 'Kazaa Idiots' That You Hate. There Are Many More Apps Besides Kazaa

Blubster, I Have Downloaded probably 500 songs from this app, not one is fake or has 'bumps'. Dont be a damn n00b, search for other apps besides 'Kazaa'. Theres Also ESV (alot of people hate it though), Theres Direct Connect, FileShare, and More!, Dont be a n00b.

cgfiend
August 24th, 2003, 07:29 AM
I think it's pretty ironic that the RIAA are distributing crappy versions of their new music, which is crappy to begin with. lol If you look at it this way then maybe those bits of silence and random noise are golden. I can't stand the music being put out nowadays. Just this weekend I was listening to a popular radio station while doing some things in my camper. The music was repetitive and boring. I had to turn it off, couldn't stand it anymore. It was actually getting on my nerves.

The fake file problem hasn't affected me yet, but then I don't use Kazaa for music anymore. I'm using Shareaza or newsgroups.

Speaking of bad files... One of my biggest peeves is misspelled filenames and subpar recordings. Quite a few people are out for quantity, not quality. Download everything you can and share the same crap someone else put out. The result is a bunch of people have a whole slew of awful files they'll probably never listen to themselves--but are sharing.

That's why I prefer DC++ or newsgroups. At least you can depend on quality stuff. Shareaza is pretty good in that you can find the higher quality music easily.

In a perfect world there'd be only quality files. In the real world there are too many irons in the fire and the emphasis isn't on quality for the majority of them. There will always be these kinds of people on the net. The only way it's gonna be stopped is if you have rules that are enforced (i.e. like DC++). Only then can you have quality control.

RIAA can have their new music. I prefer to call it a huge steaming pile. I wouldn't complain if I got a fake of this new stuff, because the silence would be better than the real song. lol But then again, you won't catch me downloading the new stuff. I stick with 60's, 70's, 80's and some early 90's. The only thing new I'll even listen to is real metal (not new metal with cookie-cutter riffs and rap) or real artists that have talent and play real instruments.

A definition I will use in future posts:
drivel - (c)rap, (c)rap metal/hard rock, r&b and any other same-sounding-cookie-cutter-no-talent-so-called-artists. Example: Eminem, Linkin Park, Kid Rock, Limp Bizkit

I'm 32 years old and grew up with 70's and 80's music. The average p2p user is probably in his/her late teens/early 20's and grew up on drivel, so it's easy to see why it's what you'll find most people downloading on the networks.

If I feel an artist has talent then I will buy their CD. If I see they're a money-machine or out for just the money or a copycat band then I won't even bother. It's my own way of protesting the drivel that's put out. It's to the point I can't stand anything even remotely sounding like rap or nu-metal.

Take Metallica for instance: I used to be a big fan of Metallica, but now I've come to a couple realizations: 1) Lars' drumming talent is extremely limited, 2) The band is more focused on money and staying en vogue than making good music. Nowadays I rely on real metal like Halford (check out Live Insurrection, it'll kick your fucking ass) or (the late) Pantera and its side-projects.

MaceUK
August 24th, 2003, 07:41 AM
ive never tried Blubster but i have tried Gnutella servents which i found to be rubbish.

I also tried emule but because im behind a firewall and im connecting though a LAN i does not work properly and i get lowid all the time.

If ESV stands for Earth station then ive tried it and i found the GUI layout to be shite and hard to read and navigate. I too hate ESV

ive also tried winMX and other apps that wont connect because of the LAN.

for me Kazaa is the best client well the best that ive tried.

I dont know too much about different P2P clients

what network does Blubster access and does it contain any spy/add ware

cgfiend im 19 and i find alot of music to be boring too but you cant say that all new music is crap, theres alot of good talented artists out there im not gona metion any becuase your bound to slag them off. Alot of 70's and 80's stuff is shite too. Somes good and some not so good and thats the way itll always be. It sounds to me that your stuck in the past :)

cgfiend
August 24th, 2003, 07:46 AM
I'm not stuck in the past. I'm just so sick of the rap-influenced music that's out. What they call metal nowadays isn't metal, it's cheap garbage. And when you try to incorporate rap/hip-hop into anything it's a huge turn-off to me. Why am I so against it? Because it's saturated into the markets. Every aspect of "popular" music is basically rap or r&b with different instruments or electronic sounds. It's old and I'm sick of it. When they start getting back to real instruments and real talent then I will give the new music the attention it deserves. It makes a person want to go to country music. At least they're talented. Another example---I haven't been able to listen to American Top 40 in years, because it all sounds the same. 80's music was different and each artist had a unique sound. Today you could lump it all together into one genre because it sounds so much alike. And what's with the crap they play on the radio where they have to blank out every other word? It's not even worth listening to.

MaceUK
August 24th, 2003, 07:56 AM
cgfiend, what can i say the music industry has evolved.

I do agree with you about some rap music, no wonder theres a gun problem in america. I once watched a dr dre, eminem and snoop dog gig on tv and there was films in between the songs on the big tv at the gig that showed the rappers with guns shooting people (one film showed them rob a shop and at the end it showed them shoot the shop assistant) what the fuck is that about.

Most metal that ive come accros is nu (new) metal which does include rap and stuff but afterall it is called new metal and not metal so its bound to be different.

cgfiend
August 24th, 2003, 08:00 AM
Music as a whole has gone south. To the shitter. If it isn't profanity-laden it's a form of rap or r&b. Speaking of r&b--I have a real complaint. Ever noticed how a lot of so-called r&b artists move up and down the octave a zillion times in one note to try and make themselves sound like they have talent? It's all annoying to me.

REDO
August 24th, 2003, 08:13 AM
Here are some networks to try, where fake files are null or very rare:

piolet
bittorent
newgroups
direct connect

I get more high quality albums from newgroups, than any other network out there.

Platinum Theory
August 24th, 2003, 10:11 AM
what network does Blubster access and does it contain any spy/add ware

Blubster uses UDP, Which slightly covers you from the RIAA, but dont think your FULLY protected. Anyways Yes Blubster Has Spyware, But There Is a clean version thanks to a dr. damn man. I find Piolet to be a CPU Hog, i wouldnt recommend it to you. Anyways Piolet doesnt use UDP such as Blubster, just to ley you know. Blubster and Piolet Connect to the Smae Network (MP2P) and you can only share Music Files, no pics, no movies, only music.

I Am Going To Send You The Clean Version in Your PM Box!, Check It!

cgfiend
August 24th, 2003, 10:29 AM
UDP is easy to use in your own programs. I wrote a UDP chat program that I am going to take to the next level and make it a file sharing app someday. You can encrypt what you're sending over UDP easily. The only thing anyone would be able to see is the IP's, but nothing of what's going between the two computers--as long as it's encrypted data.

Platinum Theory
August 24th, 2003, 10:47 AM
hell, The forums at my site dont let attachment from my computer to the forums (security reasons i think), but as soon as Freewebs is back Onlne (Does ANYONE Know Why They Are down?) I May Post The Link For Clean Blubster. Or, Hit Me up a H Town Theory on AIM. Ill Give You the file there.

Induna
August 24th, 2003, 10:47 AM
Mace, make your life a whole lot easier. Use Soulseek http://www.slsk.org

You can get full ablums here, 192kbps quality.

Pebbles100
August 24th, 2003, 12:54 PM
Soulseek offers a vast amount of house/trance albums. One thing that's good about Soulseek now is that it hasn't been 'junked up' yet. [Maybe because it's not as well known as Kazzaa] Hopefully, it remains that way: filled with progressive beats - and not heavily influenced on those fakie 'pop' artists.

tidal
August 24th, 2003, 01:43 PM
i think that it's quite inevitable that kazaa will be overrun by fakes someday... thenw e'll have to move on to greener pastures o' bandwidth (we're like cows... hehe... MOO!)

-0-BACKLASH-0-
August 24th, 2003, 03:57 PM
I'm choosing to weep here about certain AV software that when uninstalled and tried to update to a different version caused system instabilty and the inevitable system restore. ughs. PITA.
software was found on kazaa lite ++, but I think it's this company's product that doesn't like to be bothered (the software, that is)

rainbowdemon
August 24th, 2003, 04:19 PM
I recently burned a couple of cd's for a neighbor. The kid is only 14. He gave me a list of songs he wanted. It was all new stuff, readily available on Kazaa. No problem. Downloaded and burned it. Because it was music I don't really like, I never played it. This kid came back over a couple of days later, and said "What in the hell is this?" It was all bullshit! Now I look look an idiot. But my own music, which is mostly classic rock has never been a problem. Never got a fake.

shawners
August 24th, 2003, 05:28 PM
kazaa has had fakes before it splitted with morpheous.. They are only good now for software, and movies IF you gone to the forums to have it verified.. I remember when creed was on networks before it came out, and people had listed fake songs from artist that sounded like creed, songs with dial tones and really awful. and sharing TONS of it, lots of users had each song, about 8 versions of the beeps.!
I wish we could all have audiogalaxy back =)
Oh yeah rainbowdeman.. I downloaded music before and didnt check it out, LOts of the songs were LOOPS!! or live versions, Pissed me off.. I know, what was i doing trusting other users not to share loops.. it was hard to tell at first because you never heard song on radio or know how it was suppose to go.

metale
August 24th, 2003, 05:40 PM
Originally posted by MaceUK
Kazaa users are stupid and dont know anything about anything.


Ok, calm down,.

I am a Kazaa user, and probably one of the best latinamerican user they have. And i am not stupid. So watch your mouth.

You hate stupid users??
So go on with ES5... you know, they have 15 MILLIONS of intelligent users.-

neoufo51
August 24th, 2003, 06:07 PM
Can the admins please just ban this little kid MaceUK on principle??? It would be so great...

Dude, why do you register on this forum to just be a complete dickhead in general?

If you're so intelligent, please act like it. Get off Kazaa and use something more difficult to use, such as IRC and Newgroups. I'm sure that will be a nice challenge for you, and scanning your comments, I doubt that you have the mental capacity to use them.

I bet you're still going to use Kazaa despite these 4 pages of people that are smarter and wiser than you, and you'll still get fake files because of your complete ignorance in finding a real file. Mainstream music kid, you have much to learn. I bet you are very sad, living at home, downloading porn that is sometimes fake (LOL) and with no friends. If you can't be civil on this forum, please don't post anymore. Go away, just go away. Nobody wants to hear your crap, you're not going to get a legion of people who complain like you because we know better.

meyou123
August 24th, 2003, 06:13 PM
Originally posted by rainbowdemon
I recently burned a couple of cd's for a neighbor. The kid is only 14. He gave me a list of songs he wanted. It was all new stuff, readily available on Kazaa. No problem. Downloaded and burned it. Because it was music I don't really like, I never played it. This kid came back over a couple of days later, and said "What in the hell is this?" It was all bullshit! Now I look look an idiot. But my own music, which is mostly classic rock has never been a problem. Never got a fake.



Well you need to tell that kid to fuck off! If he wants some music, tell HIm to get his own damn computer and download his own songs!! Yes, you should have mabye sampled the first few seconds to see if it was even the same song or a fake, but that kid needs to get a grip! There are a LOT of fakes on kazaa, but there are also a lot of good songs there too! Sounds like a spoiled BRAT! Let him try to get his own songs for a change and then mabye he will see that not everything is as easy as it seems!

CTC Command
August 24th, 2003, 06:23 PM
Like to listen to the new crap, download the new crap, apparently you get crap. Makes sense to me!

But I don't listen to or DL any of the so-called music that passes (gas) for Top 40 today. Nor will I reiterate here my musical preferences, but out of all the files I've DL'd over the last few years, I've gotten 2 blanks (Aerosmith and Daft Punk) and one loop (Queens Of The Stone Age). The QOTSA was actually pretty cool--I just renamed it and mentioned in the new filename that it was a loop.

The biggest problem I see are files that are incomplete--maybe leftovers from Napster, when you could easily grab just a piece of something w/o renaming the DAT files. But if its something I listen to alot and get annoyed by the abrupt ending, I can always use a sound editing prog and fade out the end of the file--no bfd.*

One final observation. Why are we bitching about something we are getting FOR FREE?!! It's not like anyone here is complaining that iMusic ripped them off, or they bought a new or used CD at Strawberries that had nothing on it. And the whole n00-b thing has been beat to f'n death, people. It's like the folks who complain two posts into a thread that they don't like the thread topic. No one is holding a gun to our heads making us read any of this. And if anyone's life is so small and broken that they have nothing better to do but sit like a hawk in the forums waiting for a newbie to post a thread so they can be the first to bitch about it on it, maybe they should put down that paint chip they're chewing, turn off the computer and try going outside for a little while. That big huge blue thing out there? It's called The Sky, and the really bright yellow thing in it (don't stare at it!) is called The Sun...



*edit--of course, I explicitly state that in the tag if I have edited it in any way, shape, or form. Isn't that what the "comment" section in the ID3v2 is for?

Kevin06906
August 24th, 2003, 06:36 PM
Originally posted by rainbowdemon
I recently burned a couple of cd's for a neighbor. The kid is only 14. He gave me a list of songs he wanted. It was all new stuff, readily available on Kazaa. No problem. Downloaded and burned it. Because it was music I don't really like, I never played it. This kid came back over a couple of days later, and said "What in the hell is this?" It was all bullshit! Now I look look an idiot. But my own music, which is mostly classic rock has never been a problem. Never got a fake.

And i bet you didn't give a shit when he told ya that the cd was mostly fakes huh? lol

metale
August 24th, 2003, 06:48 PM
Originally posted by neoufo51

you'll still get fake files because of your complete ignorance in finding a real file. Go away, just go away.

hahahaah lol!!!

Absolutely agreed!!!

REDO
August 24th, 2003, 07:02 PM
Originally posted by MaceUK

I also tried emule but because im behind a firewall and im connecting though a LAN i does not work properly and i get lowid all the time.

ive also tried winMX and other apps that wont connect because of the LAN.


maybe you should figure out how to open the ports on your router, and then you can use those apps.

rainbowdemon
August 24th, 2003, 07:07 PM
And i bet you didn't give a shit when he told ya that the cd was mostly fakes huh? lol No, I felt like an idiot. This kid kind of looks up to me. He knows nothing about computers, and I make it look easy. We then just went to iMesh and made it right. I know it's fasttrack too, but there seems to be less fakes.

Kevin06906
August 24th, 2003, 07:22 PM
Originally posted
No, I felt like an idiot. This kid kind of looks up to me. He knows nothing about computers, and I make it look easy. We then just went to iMesh and made it right. I know it's fasttrack too, but there seems to be less fakes.

Ahh, don't worry about it, next time play the music.

tidal
August 24th, 2003, 07:36 PM
ah the plight of the fake files... not much you can really do about it i suppose.

of course i really empathize for our dial-up friends... it takes them a long time to get an mp3 and then to find out its fake really stings....

rainbowdemon
August 24th, 2003, 07:43 PM
Originally posted by tidal
ah the plight of the fake files... not much you can really do about it i suppose.

of course i really empathize for our dial-up friends... it takes them a long time to get an mp3 and then to find out its fake really stings.... That would be me. It takes about 1/2 hour to d/l a song. But most of what I like is classic rock. Don't find fakes in music that old. I just set up some downloads, and go do something else. With Kazaa I can set up 8 at the most.

MaceUK
August 25th, 2003, 01:50 AM
REDO it took me about an hour to map the correct ports for winmx and emule but it messed up some of my other network based programs, and when i mapped the ports i had to bypass the firewall for the mapped ports which isnt really ideal is it.

tidal
August 25th, 2003, 03:29 AM
i guess the riaa isn't too concerned with us bootlegging peter frampton and styx.... hehe *goes back to playing come sail away*

rainbowdemon
August 25th, 2003, 03:40 AM
Originally posted by tidal
i guess the riaa isn't too concerned with us bootlegging peter frampton and styx.... hehe *goes back to playing come sail away* That's the second time I've seen you mention Styx. I'm a big fan of them too!!:fire

tidal
August 25th, 2003, 06:25 PM
styx is so great... they were playing around here but by the time i found out i saw that all the decent tickets were gone and who likes nosebleeds?:green

rainbowdemon
August 25th, 2003, 06:30 PM
Originally posted by tidal
styx is so great... they were playing around here but by the time i found out i saw that all the decent tickets were gone and who likes nosebleeds?:green Saw them in the early 80's. '80 or '81. Unfortunately there was too much Jack Daniel's involved. I really don't remember very much of it. Just saw Jethro Tull this past Wednesday. Absolutely amazing!! Those old guys can still rock.

tidal
August 25th, 2003, 06:57 PM
speaking of old guys rocking.... a few years back i saw framptio (opening for journey).... that guy still has such a stage presence... he came out and everybody just listened in awe as he nailed every solo with such ease...

i havent seen a classic rock show in so long... i need to slow down... too much moshing can't be good for me :P

XtraNtnse
August 25th, 2003, 07:49 PM
I find myself using kazaa (klitek++) less & less, (due to all the problems mentioned before) eventually I'll probably uninstall it, unless a new version is released that has significant new features. Even then I'll probably only use it as a backup. Ever since I've got wireless cable hooked up, I've been using WinMX for my music, and eMule for software and/or games, the waiting que isn't so bad when you can put availible files on top. And with eMule, you know you're getting the right file, and it's worth the wait.

MAUSER
August 26th, 2003, 07:17 AM
Seems like MaceUK is the dumb fuck. Its easy to get real quality stuff but NOOBS/NOBS like MaceUK just cant manage that, its the same when they ask for links to sites that a fucking search engine will send back if you type in the right words. Use your loaf look at size quality and amount of users d/l preview continue d/l done. And if it's still crap then maybe you should fuck off and bother another p2p programe/community with your annoying FUCK this FAKE crap shit and see what they tell you to do. and most likley it will be KISS YOUR OWN FUCKING ASS AND DEAL WITH IT FUCKWIT.

MaceUK
August 26th, 2003, 08:29 AM
Mauser calm down, i check the file size it seems fine, i choose songs with shit loads of sources and i also choose songs with not alot of sources but i still get the same results with about 70% of all mp3's downloaded being fake.

If the RIAA are putting fake files on fast track networks then even cleaver people like me will get fooled :) Im not a noob i probally know alot more than you when it comes to computers, just because i dont know about every p2p network out there doesnt make me thick. Lets face it ive been using K++ for the past two years and it filled all of my requirments so why would i bother with any other p2p client or network.

cgfiend
August 26th, 2003, 09:07 AM
Some of you are really showing your age and/or maturity when you sit on here and call MaceUK names (noob, etc.) and cuss at him like morons. The original gripe was that MaceUK didn't check to see if there were threads pertaining to fake files. The other gripe was that he spammed multiple forums with the same thread subject. Not everyone on this and any other forum is going to be a hardened computer literate veteran. People make mistakes. I think this was an honest one. To keep spewing hateful words at someone after the point has been made is plain stupid. The man explained himself well enough for me and he apologized for the mistakes he made, so leave him alone. Get a fucking clue and stop being so condescending and high and mighty. Your shit stinks just like everyone else. Noobs? I was using a computer while your mom was changing your diaper. Before there was an internet, before there was a 'personal computer'. You wanna call someone a noob? STFU, you bandwagon riding ass!

MaceUK, I'd like to apologize for the way people are treating you. Your point has been made. Lets just move on dude.

tidal
August 26th, 2003, 11:25 AM
yea seriously... how can you expect an online comunity to thrive if people all had that type of attitude mauser? Get off your soap box and start playing in the dirt with the rest of us :upside

MAUSER
August 31st, 2003, 10:34 AM
I have been using p2p since the start and in all those years have never d/l a bad mp3 or corrupted file. And if I did I would not post a msg slagging the p2p programme I used as its not the p2p prgrammes fault when you get a messed up fake song. So Mace you did not need to post this on the forums at all. Yes I may have been harsh but its becoming a joke now with people complaining about fakes and corrupted files. Live with it, its a fact some are fakes, its a fact it may be corrupted, its a fact the RIAA shag sheep, its a fact p2p is great, its a fact we all should know. Sorry Mace but on all the forums I am part of we get the same post and it is very annoying now and really gets my back up. Now lets all get along and live happily ever after. :wings

tidal
August 31st, 2003, 11:33 AM
cheers! :upside

Jim Morrison
August 31st, 2003, 11:37 AM
Mace, just dont use kazaa anymore, everyone who is downloading the newer releases is having this problem, they might say they dont, thats just because they have to much pride to see that some programs are goin all to hell because of the riaa. And hey all u people who are giving him a hard time, when u do that ur no dam different than the riaa. It discourages our new members here when u flame him. Everybody here fucked up when they first joined zeropaid. P2p will never last if we dont stick together.