Kazaa on Linux

[Power Penguin]

The exciting linux filesharing trilogy continues.
Except I can't think of part three. (WinMX on Linux perhaps)

I'm now trying to install Kazaa on Linux using Wine. Thus far, thanks to the documentation at Winehq.com I've got the thing installed and running from an RPM at sourceforge made for RH 9.0.

I've even managed to use the Terminal to uninstall it.
(I felt quite proud of this - my first uninstall).

Unfortunately I've broke it and as I don't have the expertise to fix it, I have to take a hammer to a peanut and install Red Hat again.

I know I installed it right because Notepad ran from the command line.

What DLLs do I have to install and where and what version of Kazaa will run?

I could get Setup to work. But it doesn't seem to have made a program directory, as my fake windows directory was empty.

I would like to hear from anyone that runs Kazaa regularly on Linux.

[phalkon30]

Is that possible? I guess I haven't heard of kazaa on linux

[isamoor]

It's entirely possible to run kazaa on linux.

Quick note: Sorry I gave you all that info on Mandrake/Urpmi earlier, I hope someone out there found it useful.


First, how to clear out wine. Just because you broke wine was no reason to reinstall. :) In linux, most damage is limited to the user only. If you had looked in your home directory and shown hidden files, there would have been a ".wine" directory. If you delete that, it's like you had never ran wine as a user. If you were running as root (bad) it's not so simple.


Now onto kazaa. I'm not going to try and explain it all here. It is possible, and not too difficult. There's a nice site out there that has some app specific help on kazaa and a nice forum to refer to for errors. Here's the site:

http://frankscorner.org/

Wine is not an easy app to work with just to warn you. It's one of the hardest things to deal with out there. Mainly because of the fact you have to have a fake registry, so you get all the headaches of windows tagged onto linux's own difficulties. Frank's corner is a great place for help though. Best of luck to you. Here's the exact kazaa page link:

http://frankscorner.org/kazaa_lite_2_1_0_build3.html

Later,

Isamoor

[isamoor]

And may I suggest his Wine Tools program from the site. It's packaged similar to bittorrent, but not with all the interfaces and extra crud in bittorrent. Just download the package and unpackage it and read the instructions. It does make working with wine somewhat manageable.

http://www.franksworld.net/winetools/

I hope you've tried out gtk-gnutella at least at this point. I feel gtkg puts almost all windows gnutella clients to shame. For music, you can max out your bandwidth with it for as long as you want. :)

Later,

Isamoor

[Power Penguin]

You already mention Franks corner, I followed his instructions to the letter I could not get it working.

Perhaps I will try his Tool (oo-eer).

When you said you were going to give instructions I thought you were going to give links to some actual dlls from Windows that would work.

BTW I logged on as root to do the installing. (Not bad, good). And there's no directory called .Wine in the user directory. I used the RPM for RedHat and it doesn't do that.

[isamoor]

Odd about the now .wine directory for the user. And yes, you do have to install the rpm as root, you are right, I shoudl have been more clear (it's late)

The wine tools should help you out it you get it working, I know it will create a .wine directory with the fake drive and all included in your users directory. If you mess up anything in there you can just clean it out.

Are you using the same version they used? That could make a difference. There haven't been any real improvements in Kazaa since 2.1 in my opinion anyway, but that's just pure opinion.

Hope you can get it working.

Best of luck.

Later,

Isamoor

[Dandermouse]

sorry if this is old info
Happen to have heard from someone in the know that there will be a linux version of kazaa coming...along with scheduled searches and so forth
D

[RJ5500]

Will,

You might try http://codigolivre.org.br/projects/klitelinux/

I know the site is in Brazillian, but it may help install Kazaa Lite in Linux.

I am trying to do the same thing, so I will personally try this site out and see if I have any success.


Edit: Just a heads up. This site is really slow. I'm on a dial-up and and not getting more than 1.5k/s.

Prepare to wait for a while to download files from this site.

[Theinfamousone]

Why don't they just build wine inately into Linux? If it was that easy to install Windows programs on Linux, everyone (that knows anything about computers) would immediately switch to linux and leave Windows behind, and we'd all be running on open source software. Microsoft would die and there would be hundreds of software companies popping up to take its place.

Whenever I hear people trying to install wine, winex, and then messing all around with screwy system files to get it to run, it just scares me away.

I would totally run linux myself but I have lots of games I want to play, like StarCraft and stuff and it would be difficult to run that. And software companies wouldn't have to worry about making special linux versions of their software and what not.

Obviously you'd probably need special drivers for hardware, but I could handle that.

[RJ5500]

Originally posted by Theinfamousone
Why don't they just build wine inately into Linux? If it was that easy to install Windows programs on Linux, everyone (that knows anything about computers) would immediately switch to linux and leave Windows behind, and we'd all be running on open source software. Microsoft would die and there would be hundreds of software companies popping up to take its place.

Whenever I hear people trying to install wine, winex, and then messing all around with screwy system files to get it to run, it just scares me away.

I would totally run linux myself but I have lots of games I want to play, like StarCraft and stuff and it would be difficult to run that. And software companies wouldn't have to worry about making special linux versions of their software and what not.

Obviously you'd probably need special drivers for hardware, but I could handle that.

My distribution of linux has wine pre-installed. That would be a good idea, to build Wine directly into linux. Like it has been mentioned, wine is not very user-friendly. I hope Wine gets a lot more R&D. I would like to see it someday where Windows applications run on linux as "flawlessly" or better than they do on Windows itself.

[RJ5500]

Alright.. The Brazillian site was a complete waste. All that installer shell script did was try to install the .exe of Kazaa Lite again. That didn't work.

Ok, this almost looks promising (but a bit lengthy).

It's at:

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?forumid=2&threadid=79318

[Sho0tyz]

Originally posted by Theinfamousone
Why don't they just build wine inately into Linux? If it was that easy to install Windows programs on Linux, everyone (that knows anything about computers) would immediately switch to linux and leave Windows behind, and we'd all be running on open source software. Microsoft would die and there would be hundreds of software companies popping up to take its place.

Whenever I hear people trying to install wine, winex, and then messing all around with screwy system files to get it to run, it just scares me away.

I would totally run linux myself but I have lots of games I want to play, like StarCraft and stuff and it would be difficult to run that. And software companies wouldn't have to worry about making special linux versions of their software and what not.

Obviously you'd probably need special drivers for hardware, but I could handle that.

Allow me to give my opinion. WINE is a useless piece of crap, that doesn't really help Linux. No matter how good WINE gets or how many programs it runs, it will ALWAYS be a step or two behind Microsoft. New versions of windows will continue to show up, along with new system calls, direct x, etc. There will always be software that is not usable on WINE.

The presence of WINE makes software developers complacent with Windows. "I don't need to make a Linux version, just use WINE" Native Linux applications will always be better than something running under WINE, yet WINE does nothing to encourage Linux software development and may even discourage it.

I hope I'm not slamming the newbies too hard here. The transition to Linux can be difficult, but there is very little reason to ever use WINE. Other than some games, there is almost always a Linux equivalent of the software you want to use. If you absolutely must run Windows software, why not just dual boot or run a second computer? It will certainly save you from all the setup hassles that WINE has.

[Theinfamousone]

Originally posted by RJ5500
My distribution of linux has wine pre-installed. That would be a good idea, to build Wine directly into linux. Like it has been mentioned, wine is not very user-friendly. I hope Wine gets a lot more R&D. I would like to see it someday where Windows applications run on linux as "flawlessly" or better than they do on Windows itself.

And what version are you using? I downloaded Lindows 4.0 since it sounds like I could handle it and I don't have to completely install it to see how it is, pretty nice actually, but I suddenly realized how much stuff I wouldn't be able to use anymore, Nero (how am I gonna burn DVDs?) Kazaa etc. Then all my games of course. Video editors, virtual dub etc.

I guess the answer is dual booting like you say, but that begs the question, why even have Linux if I've just paid for Windows and supported Microsoft (hypothetically speaking of course), and it runs all the software I can think of.

[.::BeatFactory::.]

Originally posted by Theinfamousone
And what version are you using? I downloaded Lindows 4.0 since it sounds like I could handle it and I don't have to completely install it to see how it is, pretty nice actually, but I suddenly realized how much stuff I wouldn't be able to use anymore, Nero (how am I gonna burn DVDs?) Kazaa etc. Then all my games of course. Video editors, virtual dub etc.

I guess the answer is dual booting like you say, but that begs the question, why even have Linux if I've just paid for Windows and supported Microsoft (hypothetically speaking of course), and it runs all the software I can think of.

Knoppix comes with Wine on the distro, comes with burning software (or you could use something like xcdroast), and about everything you can think of. Knoppix is one of the best distro's out there especially for newbies to Linux.

[Sho0tyz]

Originally posted by Theinfamousone
And what version are you using? I downloaded Lindows 4.0 since it sounds like I could handle it and I don't have to completely install it to see how it is, pretty nice actually, but I suddenly realized how much stuff I wouldn't be able to use anymore, Nero (how am I gonna burn DVDs?) Kazaa etc. Then all my games of course. Video editors, virtual dub etc.

I guess the answer is dual booting like you say, but that begs the question, why even have Linux if I've just paid for Windows and supported Microsoft (hypothetically speaking of course), and it runs all the software I can think of. `

People run Linux for many different reasons, security, ease of use, software, because they hate Microsoft, because they think it will make them look cool, you name it. I would like to see Linux gain popularity, but I'm not one of these evangelists that says that everyone should be running it. If you're happy with Windows, stick with it.

There is plenty of software available. There are a multitude of CD/DVD burning tools. Who needs Nero? Kazaa used to be available, but I think the protocol has been changed and the Linux version no longer works. That being said, there is plenty of other p2p software available. I'm no expert on video editing, but software exists I'm sure. It seems that many people want to switch to Linux but run all of the same software. It just doesn't work that way. WINE won't do any good for you. You'll waste a lot of time setting it up, often get less performance/functionality than you would on Windows, and there will always be software that doesn't run at all with WINE. Why do this when you can just run Windows?

[isamoor]

Hey, Linux has K3B, which even puts nero to shame sometimes. It has a very polished and clean interface and works great. I recommend giving it a shot.

And I'll admit to only using wine for BF1942. But there are great native games. Enemeny territory and both the UT's have native ports.

As far as video encoding, I'll admit it's not as nice, but there is the mencoder program that comes with mplayer if you compile it. It is all command line I believe, but it also has all virtualdub's abilities too.

Later,

Isamoor

[fernandez]

kazaa with wine
Some say they were successful following the instructions on this site.
My K-lite starts up but crashes after about half a minute.
http://www.christian-gerner.de/computer/linux/kazaa.htm#v2

[zab]

Originally posted by Power Penguin
TI've got the thing installed and running from an RPM at sourceforge made for RH 9.0.



I thought wine was broken on rh9 due to nptl. In theory you can disable nptl by setting LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.2.5 but that's not recommended.

Either way, wine is a tough nut to crack and it may be better to leave it for when you're more comfortable with the cli and various essentials like package management, building from source, config files. etc.

Exception to the rule : on Redhat 8, WinMX worked OUT OF THE BOX, and I mean you just typed "wine winmx.exe" and it worked 100% without ANY tweaking.

[zab]

Originally posted by Sho0tyz
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People run Linux for many different reasons, security, ease of use, software, because they hate Microsoft, because they think it will make them look cool, you name it.

how about just getting your work done?

I'm about 5x more efficient under linux. Can't even imagine doing work under windoze anymore..

[Elvise]

Originally posted by isamoor
Hey, Linux has K3B, which even puts nero to shame sometimes. It has a very polished and clean interface and works great. I recommend giving it a shot.


How exactly does it put nero to shame? Nero has support for virtually every audio format and has hundred of features in comparison with K3B.

[Power Penguin]

I want to avoid discussing the general issues. And I want too get Kazaa on Linux.

So far I've been able to get my Kazaa to briefly appear then crash.

The trouble is Frank's guide didn't work with Kazaa Lite 2.1 with the version of WIne I'm using.

So I'm switiching to the version that was tested on Frank's Corner.

[jago25_98]

I did -

ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" emerge gift-fasttrack gift-openft giftcurs

edited ~/.giFT/gift.conf -so->

plugins = OpenFT:FastTrack

- `giftd` on the console,

and then `giftcurs` in a terminal in X.

Otherwise, get source from

http://developer.berlios.de/projects/gift-fasttrack/
http://giftproject.org

You can run giftd on your server and control it from your desktop.

Enjoy.

[Elvise]

Originally posted by fernandez
kazaa with wine
Some say they were successful following the instructions on this site.
My K-lite starts up but crashes after about half a minute.
http://www.christian-gerner.de/computer/linux/kazaa.htm#v2

Do you get any error messages when you try running it from a console?

[Captain_FLX]

I'm not sure but alot of people say that the Reason KaZaA crashes with Wine is because it Requires I.E which makes pretty much sence because Kazaa tells you straight up, it uses I.E Technology and from what you said that it starts up and then crashes it's the same exact thing that the people said that happens because Linux doesnt have I.E, I'm not sure how can you run Kazaa in Linux without I.E.

[Elvise]

Originally posted by Captain_FLX
I'm not sure but alot of people say that the Reason KaZaA crashes with Wine is because it Requires I.E which makes pretty much sence because Kazaa tells you straight up, it uses I.E Technology and from what you said that it starts up and then crashes it's the same exact thing that the people said that happens because Linux doesnt have I.E, I'm not sure how can you run Kazaa in Linux without I.E.

No, you don't need IE installed to run it properly. You just need to install DCOM98 and put the following dll files in you Windows/System folder: commctrl, comctl32, shdocvw, shlwapi.

And you need to add the following to your wine config file:

[AppDefaults\\kpp.exe\\DllOverrides]
"commctrl" = "native"
"comctl32" = "native"
"shdocvw" = "native"
"shlwapi" = "native"

To start Kazaa, just run wine kpp.exe.

[fernandez]

Originally posted by Elvise
Do you get any error messages when you try running it from a console?

Yes I do, I always get the infamous directory 15 error. I've tried the suggested methods on the website to get around it, but I can't get it to work.

[fernandez]

Just found a method to run kazaa with wine on justlinux.com

http://www.justlinux.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=109746&perpage=15&pagenumber=1

The method works for me. By default Klite 1.7.2 will be installed, however, if you look at http://www.christian-gerner.de/computer/linux/kazaa.htm#v2 which dll files are needed for newer versions of k-lite, you'll be able to run k-lite 2.x.x

It's still a little buggy and crashes at times, but I can successfully download files.

Hope this helps someone.

Edit: don't forget to edit the config file

[Zenon]

`

People run Linux for many different reasons, security, ease of use, software, because they hate Microsoft, because they think it will make them look cool, you name it. I would like to see Linux gain popularity, but I'm not one of these evangelists that says that everyone should be running it. If you're happy with Windows, stick with it.

There is plenty of software available. There are a multitude of CD/DVD burning tools. Who needs Nero? Kazaa used to be available, but I think the protocol has been changed and the Linux version no longer works. That being said, there is plenty of other p2p software available. I'm no expert on video editing, but software exists I'm sure. It seems that many people want to switch to Linux but run all of the same software. It just doesn't work that way. WINE won't do any good for you. You'll waste a lot of time setting it up, often get less performance/functionality than you would on Windows, and there will always be software that doesn't run at all with WINE. Why do this when you can just run Windows?

The answer is NOBODY LOVES WINDOWS.

And now serious stuff.

go to this link:

http://gift.sourceforge.net

and to this also:

http://apollon.sourceforge.net

With giFT and Apollon, you can connect to FastTrack network (or KaZaA Network). It works. Realy......

You need to download gift-fasttrack plugin for giFT and configure it. After that you are set to share.....

And please....... NO WINDOWS HERE :-)

[DIMA2001]

@ Theinfamousone:
games are not a big reason - just install windows on HDD and beat around with linux with knoppix - it boots from a CD and you have a full featured linux packed onto a single CD :)

Yes, giFT is nice, but even less user-friendly than wine (configuration i mean)
:gj

Why people would like to use linux? Because they play EnemyTerritory/Ut2003, listen to music, work with office programmes, manage the network, browse the web, use p2p, develop own stuff, etc, etc.
For every purpose on windows there are at least two apps to manage the same prob. And you don't run into a legal problem while dling some apps.
Currently linux is not harder than windows, the user is lazy to learn 5 commands, 5 additional shortcuts, rpm/make installations and the root stuff :) My neighbor for example asked me what you can do on linux ... i asked him what he does on windoze - he really thought that you can't do the same on lin ... lol, now he is relearning with knoppix.

[ducttapeBigSexy]

I love Linux.... granted, I have no clue how to do anything, and even to install software it takes about four times the time required under Windows, but still, it's something different and it's just cool. Plus, it doesn't crash for no apparent reason :)

[tecker]

Hey all, You all want a way to get Kazaa LITE working on your linux.
Head over to www.geocities.com/tecker83/ for a graphical howto i put together. It is still being built but what is there should get you going. Happy Kazaa Shareing.

[reductionist]

As a linux user I'd like to echo the anti-Wine sentiments expressed above: there really is no need for it, most stuff has an equivalent and if it doesn't, then I'll live without it.

Games are probably the worst cases but you could keep a small partition for MS if you need to...(for christs sake, drives are so cheap these days most of us can afford to put a second 20/40 gig in there and just have a two full systems - its easy enough to xfer data to/from MS systems anyway. At least from the linux end).

Anyway, I'm not going back to MS - not because I hate it or Bill Gates. Just because its a virus soup out there and most of it is aimed at MS boxes - their security is stupid (yes I do know about the XP so-called firewall...). I actually really liked using W2K and was a big fan of MP2P network and blubster, but I got a boot sector virus which ate half-a-gig of mp3s (hey, at 56k half a gig is no small beer) and I'm mad as hell and not gonna take it anymore.

[neufeld]

Hi All,
This is something really new to me.I'm a virgin linux user. know absolutely nothing about it.So if I make some mistakes I hope you'll understand.
I wound up here looking for Kazaa to download some music but I'm having trouble doing it. I guess it a matter of my time (oh well)
Thanks for the welcome
Neufeld

[evilmegaman]

neufeld, Don't use kazaa. Ever. Ever. wait... is kazaa even around anymore? But yeah if you're on linux, try something like limewire or phex instead. Any java program or native linux p2p is much better than trying to run kazaa on linux.. I mean I didn't even know it was around...