I saw a movie, & the MPAA is putting up Anti-Piracy Messages.

[PowerMan57two]

Well last night (Tuesday, July 29th) I saw the movie 28 Days Later. It was an okay movie, not a total waist of money.

Anyways during the previews the MPAA is putting up messages to stop piracy. A guy that came on to talk to the camera said it's not that big of a deal for the movie stars, but for people like him who are the work crew, it takes away their money. They'll soon have to drop people who work on the lights and set.

I know it makes sense now. But I really never thought about that. I just thought "Oh downloading a movie wont hurt anyone." But it really does.

The guy said he's lucky if he can even hold his steady job for 12months because it's gettting so bad.

So for now on when I download a movie it's only going to be because it's not out yet on DVD. and I will buy it. I don't want to be taking away some guys job because I'm to cheap to pay $5-$7 for a movie. I'm afraid to see what it will be like in a few yrs from now. I hope it gets better.

[Evil_Dweller_01]

Err..wow

I never thought about it that way either...

Still I dont really care, I go see the movie in theatres if I want to anyway
If its good and what I expected, I download it

[Krell]

NO it doesnt make sense, go watch it again.

All those behind the scenes people they are talking about GET PAID. Not one single person will ever NOT work due to file sharing.

What happens is that the THEATRES and the STUDIOS make will make less profit, but the audience doesnt know that.

dont be so gullible.

[FutureIverson]

I did think of it that, way that will still get paid. Most movies take inenough anyway. If it makes you feel better only download movies guarenteed to make money. Harry Potter, Lord of the Rings, Rush hour 3. But you'd be suprised 6 out of 7 movies i think it was make money. Next time you here that in the theatre yell out bs (yeah i got it from ya)...

[Sockfulloflove]

Why should someone who works a shit dead end job have to pay to support someone else. Maybe those actors/actresses earning $15 million per movie can do something about it.

I do rent movies, and I do go see movies in theatres every once in awhile if I really think I will like it. But I'm not one of those people who goes every weekend. I don't have money to throw around.

$5-7 for a movie? Yea right, I wish. Try $10.50.

Jesus people, go support your MPAA. They're trustworthy. :mellow

[PowerMan57two]

Krell - I don't know if your right about it. Not to sound rude but you always seem like you think you know everything. I mean did you make this off the top of your head by you wish it would work that way, or do you have a real article, I would like to read it.

Sockfulloflove - I'm not a Jesus person. Nor am I religous in anyway. I just know it's the right thing to do. But no I am not a Jesus lover.

Movies are $4.50 here for early movies. And then $6.50 for later movies past 7:00

[begoodbebad]

so they're going to start making movies with no lighting and cardboard sets from old soap operas? hmmmm, is that a tear rolling down my cheek.....wait, I hear mournful violins.......a cloud just passed over the sun.....also there is the strong overpowering odour of fresh steaming horse manure....

L I E S A N D P R O P A G A N D A

Talking Heads - Walk It Down:

"I...I...I...I turn up the radio
Lies, lies and propaganda
I...gonna tell you what I need
Life, life, without surrender

....
....Ain't no crime to believe
I took my money, I bet my life
What you see is what you get
But it sure ain't what we need.
"

[Siskabush]

ok, powerman, Think of the actor getting paid 20 million for the movie.

Im pretty sure they can take a lil bit off thier cheque to compinsate.

I mean, Actors, like baseball players get paid too much.
If they paid them reasonable amounts, they wouldnt have to whine.

The MPAA should say no to 20 million dollar contracts for 1 movie.

[PowerMan57two]

LoL, yeah I guess so, but actors get stuck up and would stop making movies for less money. Then who are we going to turn to, the actors that suck? Okay I'm sure there are some actors out there that are decent and that would make one for 2million or so. But I don't think it's a snap of the MPAA's fingers and it just happens like that. It would take some time to protest or something.

[collideous]

I saw that too - the piracy message, not "28 Days Later". It was kinda cute. Maybe they should start telling the other story. All the Californians who used to work on movie sets lost their jobs because studios moved away to shoot pictures at cheaper locations such as Canada and Australia. Profit-maximizing killed these jobs - not piracy.

P.S. Why would you want to download a movie in the first place, and why would you want to ever buy a DVD? I see it at the movies, or rent a DVD if I missed it. See it once - never need to see it again.

[Sockfulloflove]

Originally posted by PowerMan57two
Sockfulloflove - I'm not a Jesus person. Nor am I religous in anyway. I just know it's the right thing to do. But no I am not a Jesus lover.

When I said Jesus people. I said it as in "Jesus People!" As in oh my god you believe their (MPAA) bullshit. I didn't actually say it as in people who like Jesus.

Jesus people! :mellow

[Sockfulloflove]

Originally posted by PowerMan57two
Then who are we going to turn to, the actors that suck?

I'll work for a piece of bread and a bottle of water...and a healthcare plan. :mellow

[BlueLieu]

I would never replace a trip to the movie theater's with a downloaded movie. There's just no comparison to the "silver screen". The only thing my DivX addiction affects is my repeat rentals at BlockBuster and late charges.

[Caitlyn Marble]

Originally posted by PowerMan57two
Then who are we going to turn to, the actors that suck? Okay I'm sure there are some actors out there that are decent and that would make one for 2million or so. But I don't think it's a snap of the MPAA's fingers and it just happens like that. It would take some time to protest or something.

One word: Bollywood. supply will rise to meet demand.

[Krell]

Originally posted by PowerMan57two
Krell - I don't know if your right about it. Not to sound rude but you always seem like you think you know everything. I mean did you make this off the top of your head by you wish it would work that way, or do you have a real article, I would like to read it.

Sockfulloflove - I'm not a Jesus person. Nor am I religous in anyway. I just know it's the right thing to do. But no I am not a Jesus lover.

Movies are $4.50 here for early movies. And then $6.50 for later movies past 7:00



Theyre called "UNIONS"

You cant scrub a freakin toilet and not get paid, what the hell more documentation do you need? Other than a dose of knowing how the world works.

Props, set designers, wardrobe, makeup, lunch caterers, painters, janitors, foley artists, sound engineers, camera operators, grips, yes-men, best boys and nipple tweakers . . .. . remember them from that commercial, you DO remember it dont you? You brought it up. They are ALL UNION.

We're not even talking about actors here, this has nothing to do with actors. I sound like I know what I'm talking about, because, most of the time, I DO.

[Wolfie]

What is the primary funtion of the movie industry?

Making things that are not true look semi true in a movie. I would not be surprised if you end up seeing the so called "movie crew" person in some B-rated movie later. Its called acting and costumes. Every commercial that has testimonials predominantly has actors not real ppl.

If anyone can make a sympatheic commercial that most ppl would buy it would be movie industry that excels in make belief.

If movie producers and actors are so concerned about the jobs of the little ppl involved they are free to each take a 1 million in pay cut for workers fund or something. In reality the profits of the movies goes in the pocket of the big wigs and those are the ppl taking a loss from p2p not the workers.

[Soothsayer]

Listen to Krell for Pete's sake - he is dead on. They are still going to get paid. They get paid when the movie is made. As long as the freakin movie gets filmed, they will get paid. They do not get any royalties or anything, if the movie makes big money or is a huge blockbuster! They just get paid to do their job for the time being, and then they move onto the next one. The only people who get the big money and a percentage cut are the producers, actors, directors, companies who foot the bill. NOBODY else sees any of that money but those folks.
Don't believe these baloney pleas from the MPAA.

[mojo-ris-in]

Yup Krell's right they are all unionized. Back in the days when I was a musician, we had a studio shoot a video for my band in LA. On the set they blew a light bulb and had to wait for one of the union guys to come out there and change the light bulb. They said that union rules stated that only a union worker could do it . It would have been a violation of the contract signed with that particular union if anybody else did it. That's why you are seeing more and more TV shows filmed in Canada and why many movies are filmed overseas. It's just another way to keep the unions out.

[Winphuk]

It's a bunch of bullshit. Without the crew, they can't make the movie, then NO ONE get's paid.

[Theinfamousone]

Ok, if you stop and look at the MPAA, they had their best year ever. Now really think, when was the last time you said, "hey guys, I'd love to go to the movie with you, but I think I'm going to watch a cheapo cam version that has no color and has people walking around in front of the screen.

Any movie that's worth anything makes hundreds of millions, now, say there are 500 people involved with making the movie (that's probably too high for most), that means each person made a million bucks. I'd be lucky if I make a million in my entire life.

The other thing I have noticed is that making movies is a very lucrative business, there's millions of people that are going to school to make movies because it's a fun career that you get made tons for. I might feel bad if I would have paid money to see a movie in a theatre, but I didn't, but that's probably only happend like once, I shell out tons of money for over priced theatre tickets....

[shawners]

Maybe they should give the LIGHT and stage crew acting jobs. These people are lieing to you, MOVIE studios, each of them Hire a crews of people to work on a film, when its done they move to next location get paid and food supplied to them, catered. You know how many films are produced in a YEAR?? over 700 moves. If the MPAA was really worried, maybe they shouldnt pay the actors or producers so much.. OR EVEN BETTEr, IF THEIR SUFFERING, SET UP A PAYPAL For them and alert the media that we need to give a buck or two. THey make money when it goes to theaters, when it goes to rental, pay per view, cable, dvd, video, shoot they make money when they release the soundtrack, why not sell the stage or things from the movie online to pay the crew. I WILL BUy only dvd i like and enjoy, i hate to download a poor rip or video of any movie, i go movies once a week basically.

[shawners]

on another note, the guy that works on the stage that gives the speech about piracy, the acting was soo good i wonder if he'll get a golden globe ? OR was it special effects and just makeup? You seen the movie matrix reloaded? You see all the people they hired when the credits at the end rolled, EVERY actor or person in their had an assistent, and australian crew as well as US crew. so some are worth it.

[MauerPower]

The movie industry is in a decline this summer, with Finding Nemo becoming the sleeper hit. Maybe that is why the industry is starting to get worried about file sharing.

[REDO]

Originally posted by BlueLieu
I would never replace a trip to the movie theater's with a downloaded movie. There's just no comparison to the "silver screen". The only thing my DivX addiction affects is my repeat rentals at BlockBuster and late charges.


exactly what I was going to say.... The experience of seeing a movie on the big screen just isn't the same as watching a downloaded one. I dont think that the MPAA is losing any money off of this. You keep hearing of movies that break the bank. Movies like the Hulk, T3, and Pirates of the Carribean pulled in topns of money for htem. The people that could be hurt is rental stores.

[begoodbebad]

Originally posted by shawners
on another note, the guy that works on the stage that gives the speech about piracy, the acting was soo good i wonder if he'll get a golden globe ? OR was it special effects and just makeup? You seen the movie matrix reloaded? You see all the people they hired when the credits at the end rolled, EVERY actor or person in their had an assistent, and australian crew as well as US crew. so some are worth it.

The "stagecrew" man in the film has to be an actor! Or he isn't allowed to act.....got to be in the actors union or you dont act. fake fake fake

[PowerMan57two]

Oh woops! Sorry about the "Jesus People" thing. LoL I get it now. I was just reading to fast. I don't like to read all the posts. But just scim them.

Krell - Thanks for the help. I just wanted more documentation than you just saying "This is how they do it, they will get paid, blah blah blah"

I just wanted more info and backup support of what you say. But still don't you think the piracy has to hurt someone besides the theaters? I mean the mpaa wouldn't just put that guy on there saying stuff about his job would they? i think it does hurt more than the theaters.

[FutureIverson]

People still watch movies, the mpaa will still get their money, Why? althought broadband is becoming more popular. A lot of people still have 56K, and they said probably will up until 2006 until it turns. it's not like music where with even 28.8 k with patience you can get a movie. Not that many people download movies, because they don't have the patience, connection.

If you like the Theatre experience go watch a movie
But don't let that little video make you feel sorry.
the mods made a great point, it's unioinized.
Why would you want to watch a movie d/led? Because it's Free.

If you like to download movies so do I, if you like the theatres good for you, but no one should feel condemned for these people.

[FutureIverson]

at the website look at this they say...
you could get expelled from school (what's my principal going to do)
Fired from work
5 years in prison (more like a cease a desist letter)
250,000 in fines (lol maybe there goes my future)

[Lucian]

How does downloading a movie hurt anyone when most of the money is made in the theaters? You still go to the theaters, I still go to the theaters, the movie industry isnt losing any money. I mean people never purchased DVDs in bulk anyway, most people rented them so please tell me how downloading a low quality rip of a DVD is going to prevent people from renting the high quality version for $2-3 and ripping that, or going to the theater.

I think the movie industry is one of the safest industries when it comes to the harm P2P does, no one wants to see a low quality movie on their laptop screen, people want to see it on the big screen with surround sound, popcorn, the whole ritual.

I've went to the movies more times this year than I ever have in my lifetime. So I know the movie industry has made more money this year than any year ever before.

[qfreak]

Get a clue people. When you rent movies from Blockbuster the movie studios get a cut. The movie rental business is a cash machine for studios. Also think about this - what about the poor workers who can't get hired or keep their job because the MPAA has such a tight monopoly on WHICH movies are shown. There are many more movies produced than shown at a movie theater. If you don't know about a movie you would not want to go see it, rent it, or buy it.

[Lucian]

The MPAA is being stupid, I can see the RIAA complaining, people arent buying CDs anymore, but the MPAA? Even if Mpegs were 100% perfect DVD quality, I'd still go to the movies because I dont have a giant sized HDTV with surround sound speakers, and anyone who does have the money to buy this kinda setup has the money to pay for movies.

I hope someone sues the MPAA, I'm sick of these big greedy companies complaining about poor college students downloading movies occassionally when these assholes made more money this year than they ever had. This was the year that I went to the movies 12 times, thats more times that I had gone in my entire lifetime before this year.

I could ALWAYS steal movies, ALWAYS steal PPV, ALWAYS steal cable. I want high quality big screen surround sound theather experience and I will pay $10 or so to get it.

I will also pay $3-4 to rent a DVD, maybe I will rip that DVD, but the point is I could always do these kinds of things, why complain about it now that we use computers to do it? When it was all VHS, I was copying VHS tapes and no one complained about it, why? Because the quality of VHS sucked, and when you copied it that made it even worse.


I hate all these media control groups, thats all they do, control people and artists, they suck and can go to hell.

[Krell]

Yah yah thanks for that clue, we're enlightened. Obviously you didnt soak up the thread thus far.



I have seen 3 movies in the theatre in the past week, I am leaving in 1 hour to see another. I pay for the *THEATRE experience, I will NOT pay for the DVD.


lol . . . expelled from school ! oooowe, That so 1984.




* Theatre experience = the act of paying way too much to see a movie on a big screen surrounded by 4 grossly fat people shovelling popcorn in their mouths at a rate measure in cfm, and the ambience of screaming children and cell phones, and live action narration by the sub-geniuses. Oh, and I love the sensurround effect I thought lost in the 70's, but rediscovered, by people who put their feet on the back of the seats.

Shaken, not stirred.


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[FutureIverson]

I don't understand the point of pay for play and why their have been 6.5 million dl's for Macintosh (stupid) buymusic hasn't been as lucky. Why Pay for downloading music when you still would be illegally sharing it if you did put it on a p2p program. When you can download it for free on a p2p program and just not share it although i am totally against leeching.

You don't have to pay for it to be legal. Also .wma files can be a hassle sometimes depending on the protection on them. .wma files on kazaa that don't require lisences and stuff although are always authentic.