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paddydog
July 30th, 2003, 06:38 AM
Hello all...

I've just installed Kazaa lite on my office pc and wanted to download mp3s using my workplace internet connection - my home connection is a 56k modem against a fast connection of the office network.

My question is this - can the netwok administrators see what i'm dowloading without looking on my pc? can they see the file and its contents as it comes via the network so they can identify it as an mp3? is there anything else is should be aware of? i've tried to research the issue as fully as possible, but can't find answers to the above questions.

thanks

cpugeniusmv
July 30th, 2003, 06:52 AM
well, i guess the easiest answer is...

they can if they want to. if they aren't actively monitoring what the employees are doing online...then they probably won't notice.

Wolfie
July 30th, 2003, 07:00 AM
One thing I would not do is share (you can prolly still download) mp3s on a company computer. The last thing you want your company to get a notice for having copyrighted stuff on thier computers. They don't like that sort of thing that makes them vulnerable to lawsuits.

Btw, welcome to ZP.

crackerjacker
July 30th, 2003, 07:02 AM
hmm sooner or later you will end up getting busted for using your employers internet access. But that shouldnt stop you from using it though. If your going to do that do it diligently and sneaky.
lmao make sure you dont download to many files. However if you intend on downloading files download them in increments.
*in all serious* do what you want to up to you.

you can always blame your employee. *cough* lmao



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matt merch
July 30th, 2003, 07:21 AM
Originally posted by paddydog
Hello all...


My question is this - can the netwok administrators see what i'm dowloading without looking on my pc? can they see the file and its contents as it comes via the network so they can identify it as an mp3? is there anything else is should be aware of? i've tried to research the issue as fully as possible, but can't find answers to the above questions.

thanks

they can see if they want but again every network is different some may monitor some may not but as has been said before in this thread its all about bandwith if you start taking a big chunk of your networks bandwith the admin will start looking for the cause and that will lead them to you so exercise caution

rainbowdemon
July 30th, 2003, 07:21 AM
Just download them a few at a time. Burn them onto a rewritable data cd in mp3 format. When the cd is full ( should hold 130-150 mp3's) take it home and upload it to your home pc. Delete them from your work computer as they are burned to the cd. If your employer is not monitoring, this might be o.k.

paddydog
July 30th, 2003, 07:50 AM
thanks to all for the above. understand the need for caution and good points re. minimising bandwidth use and copying files to cd, etc. I realise if i draw attention to myself, they are likely to look.

what really concerned me was could they "see" the file names / extensions, e.g. "xyz.mp3" as it came in through the network so thay could see the specific files? are thay likely to be logged somewhere? or am i missing something about p2p - does the fact that i am directly connected to another kazaa user mean it avoids being logged like internet activity / email, other than showing up as me hogging all the bandwidth? the bandwidth thing isn't too much of an issue as a lot of my coworkers listen to radio on the internet and use a lot of the bandwidth - so could mp3s go relatively unnoticed?

sorry for all the questions and thanks again for the advice

matt merch
July 30th, 2003, 08:02 AM
only your network admins can answer those questions as they know how ur network is monitored there is no definitive answer as all networks are different so u can get general info but not specific to ur network streamed data is different to mp3s though a radio stream will take a lot less bandwith than d/l an mp3 in general

Jelsoft
July 30th, 2003, 08:03 AM
Originally posted by paddydog
what really concerned me was could they "see" the file names / extensions, e.g. "xyz.mp3" as it came in through the network so thay could see the specific files? are thay likely to be logged somewhere? or am i missing something about p2p - does the fact that i am directly connected to another kazaa user mean it avoids being logged like internet activity / email, other than showing up as me hogging all the bandwidth? the bandwidth thing isn't too much of an issue as a lot of my coworkers listen to radio on the internet and use a lot of the bandwidth - so could mp3s go relatively unnoticed?

sorry for all the questions and thanks again for the advice

With the right software, the short answer is yes.

I know that network adminstrator can monitor which websites a person visits.

As for a particular file I don't know.

A network adminstrator can monitor the bandwidth used by a network.

A P2P software like Kazaa uses a lot of bandwidth so they are going to notice a spike in the bandwidth usage.

If the adminstrator uses a remote software like PC Anywhere installed on your computer they can monitor what is being run on your computer and what is on the desktop screen.

But all this monitoring depends on how good of a system the IT department have set up.

Unless you know the inner workings of the network adminstrator you are taking a risk using P2P software at the workplace.

You are better off upgrading your 56k line to boardband and use Kazaa at home.

fernandez
July 30th, 2003, 09:15 AM
Some companies actively monitor employee computer usage, that means it is possible for the person in charge to see everything.
As others have stated already, the sysadmin would know the answer to such questions best.
If you are on good terms with the sysadmin, you could ask him.

REDO
July 30th, 2003, 10:10 AM
i think they would notice. I was a PC tech in a 1000+ PC environment. It is very easy to notice when a person is using a lot of bandwidth. It is also easy to figure out what ports you have open. As a matter of fact, we almost fired a guy for using napster on a work computer once. My suggestion would be to keep Kazaa to home use only