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ssj4conejo
July 29th, 2003, 06:35 PM
I think more people should get on irc, i've been using it for years and it is far by more stable than any p2p service, and it is much harder for the feds to do shit in there too. I strongly suggest that everyone starts gettin used to irc, and if not try to use Filetopia or if you have a fast computer, freenet. START moving away from kazaa, we need change. Anyone on me with this?
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FutureIverson
July 29th, 2003, 08:04 PM
people don't like irc, because it's not as user friendly as kazaa it won't be used, because kazaa still has so many users.
Kyle06
July 29th, 2003, 08:10 PM
I would use mIRC if I understanded it but I don't (sry about grammer)
crackerjacker
July 29th, 2003, 08:23 PM
hmm who says people dont use irc.
:)
i do irc for chatting basically but there are other stuff one can do.
Spinecast
July 29th, 2003, 08:24 PM
Originally posted by ssj4conejo
[B]I think more people should get on irc, i've been using it for years and it is far by more stable than any p2p service, and it is much harder for the feds to do shit in there too. I strongly suggest that everyone starts gettin used to irc, and if not try to use Filetopia or if you have a fast computer, freenet. START moving away from kazaa, we need change. Anyone on me with this?[B]
Wonderful idea. Why not have everyone move on to something else so that can get ruined also...Smart one.
The fact that IRC isn't user friendly is a beautiful thing. Let's keep it that way.
Krypt0
July 29th, 2003, 08:24 PM
/me uses irc, and i'm sure lots of advanced members here do too...
I think lots of people are scared off by irc because it doesn't have a friendly GUI for searching, connecting and wonderful stuff like that..
hehe overall irc file trading has been around for a loooooooong time..
shawners
July 29th, 2003, 08:24 PM
mIRC undernet is far the best to get complete albums as far as RARE Stuff, cover art, high byte rate, All you do is type @find <song name, artist, album, what ever> without the hypens.. You see the messages come, shows you how many is in their que, shows how many slots, tells you the LIST Of songs that user is sharing and have, download the list, copy paste the line into the window and began downloading.. it will say !username FILENAME.mp3 and thats it.. Very easy to use, now they have it where they serve mp3 to servers and it freees up the leaching and the queues.. MIRCX.com for a script. they have channels to help you with mirc... you connect to server type /j #mp3z, or /j #mp3_collective, when you connect to undernet server.
Shaddix
July 30th, 2003, 09:10 AM
irc reminds me of longer queues than edonkey. i probly never was in the right chans tho.
FutureIverson
July 30th, 2003, 02:28 PM
actually that is a good point, not being user friendy will keep fake soff. But if everyone went to it, the Riaa would come finding some new way to crack it. So just let everyone stay on kazaa. Winmx has stayed somewhat ok, because it's loki, keep irc the same. E5 is getting out
Sockfulloflove
July 30th, 2003, 02:49 PM
I use IRC a lot. It's second to DC++ for me. If you know where to look, you can find a lot of good stuff.
PowerMan57two
July 30th, 2003, 03:01 PM
I use to use irc about 1 yr ago. I got some files I needed. But it is hard to understand. If I were going to go back to it now, I would not know what to do. I forgot the commands. I had someone over AIM teach me for about 20-30min. And I got it down good. I should have written them down :-(
Sockfulloflove
July 30th, 2003, 03:29 PM
The only commands you really need to know are:
/server irc.example.com = to connect to an irc server
/join #example = to join a channel
/msg exampleuser xdcc send #1 = to ask a user/bot to send you the file you want they you know they have. the # is the packetnumber (the number the file is, IRCSpy tells you).
Use www.ircspy.com with mIRC to find the files you need and to connect and download them. Also, check out their guides on their site to get a better understanding.
Induna
July 30th, 2003, 03:55 PM
You may as well be talking Greek.
cgfiend
July 30th, 2003, 04:20 PM
I've been using IRC for a LONG time. It may seem daunting at first, but once you realize how easy it is to use and how powerful it is, you'll be hooked.
I'm always on IRC 24/7. I don't hang out in the MP3 channels, but I do trade files here and there. Recently I wrote my own MP3 player script and have been working on add-on apps for MIRC.
I just completed two app projects for MIRC pertaining to files and file sharing that some of you may be interested in...
(Freth is my nick on IRC)
Freth's File Server - an add-on app written in VB that streamlines file sharing. Instead of using Fserve and downloading files with tedious long filenames, my program generates a text list of files you send to those you wish to share with. Each file in the list has a number assigned to it. The downloader simply pics numbers out of the file list and asks a trigger for the file (i.e. !getfile 1234). My app then sends the appropriate file to the downloader via DCC. Simple yet effective. :)
Freth's DCC Send Manager - an add-on app written in VB that allows you to set up a file send queue, then simply send the files automatically. Say you have multiple nicks you want to send files to, but there are too many to sit there and DCC manually. My app does the work for you by letting you set up a list of nicks and files to send, then sends them one at a time and verifies that the file arrived ok. If not, it's resent until it does.
These programs were written to fulfill my own needs. Now I can share files without having to run an fserve---people can download at their leisure. I can now queue up files I want to send to people without having to sit at the computer and DCC manually or run an fserve. These apps are ongoing projects. I just completed the file queue app this week and have a few minor things to fix, but it's completely functional.
If you're interested in either of these or just learning how to write an MP3 player or text player script for MIRC, drop by Undernet and find me (Freth) in #hunting, #ohioflirts or #cajun_delight -- I'm more than happy to share my stuff. Or, simply visit my site: Deafened Psychosis (http://mirc.deafpsych.net/)
rainbowdemon
August 2nd, 2003, 05:28 AM
It seems to me that ICQ would work too!:wings
Spinecast
August 2nd, 2003, 05:38 AM
Oh yeah...and trust an mIRC script made by someone else like you'd trust a person wearing a ski mask with your wallet.
I make all mine, so I know exactly what it's doing. You'd be amazed at what people will put in their scripts, and where they connect to that you don't know about.
It's like giving the key to your house to a complete stranger.
shawners
August 2nd, 2003, 06:47 AM
whats that one script i use and seen alot of others use..dark realm and autoget. 6.1 version. I really think irc could not get shut down as easy as people may think. Its mainly for chatting and i think that was one of their biggest arguments earlier in the p2p settings. Plus they can restrict access to joining the channel by IP's, nick names.. and voice the ones sharing, and share within the people sharing.. theres tons of servers who have tons of mp3 channels. Dalnet stopped mp3 channels. =(
jonnymnemonic
August 2nd, 2003, 07:59 AM
I got a cease and desist letter from the MPAA a year ago. The MPAA and RIAA have scanbots that go thru IRC and snag IPs and file lists from anyone they can, and these bots are fairly sophisticated, and getting better every day. I won't share jack on IRC publicly anymore. With a few trusted people, sure (I'm DSL and don't have a ton of bandwidth anyway, so a few people is all I could handle regardless.) But publicly? Hell no, not anymore.
In any case, you can think it's safe if you want, but it's not. I wish it were, but if wishes were fishes we'd all cast nets. It's still very useful, but it's ny no means a safe haven, especially the larger more well-known networks like Undernet and EFnet, which are crawling with scanbots.
Not user-friendly? I guess I'm old-school, but I never found IRC tough to use. Then again, I've been using it for a dozen years or more. If you can figure out any commandline system (DOS, *nix, whatever), then IRC is simple enough to use. Typing a command isn't much different than clicking a button, seems to me. ;)
Afn
August 2nd, 2003, 08:27 AM
odc++ and dc++ are the best clients to use, next to filetopia.
MoonMan
August 2nd, 2003, 11:30 AM
IRC isn't just about file sharing and when people try and compare it with programs like KaZaA.. well that's like comparing Microsoft Word with AOL Instant Messenger. Sure they can both be used to type, and allow you to change the way your font looks, but that doesn't mean they are related in any other way.
cgfiend
August 2nd, 2003, 11:52 AM
Originally posted by Spinecast
Oh yeah...and trust an mIRC script made by someone else like you'd trust a person wearing a ski mask with your wallet.
I make all mine, so I know exactly what it's doing. You'd be amazed at what people will put in their scripts, and where they connect to that you don't know about.
It's like giving the key to your house to a complete stranger.
Look at the scripts, there are no back doors. I assure you that. I have no reason to get into someone else's computer, it doesn't interest me. If you're that worried about it I can send you all of the source and you can see for yourself. lol I understand your paranoia, but in this case there's no need. I wouldn't have offered if I didn't think someone could use the tools I've made. See my web page. I specifically state the software isn't malicious in any way.
[Edit] Both the script and VB source are documented fully for easy reading. I made the MIRC script to be simple and straightforward, something TXPlay was not.
To each their own. *shrug* The offer still stands. Check it out for yourself. Source is available upon request. :)
shellreef
August 3rd, 2003, 03:34 PM
Originally posted by jonnymnemonic
[...] The MPAA and RIAA have scanbots that go thru IRC and snag IPs and file lists from anyone they can, and these bots are fairly sophisticated, and getting better every day. [...]
In any case, you can think it's safe if you want, but it's not. [...] it's ny no means a safe haven, especially the larger more well-known networks like Undernet and EFnet, which are crawling with scanbots.
Undernet and EFNet do not mask hostnames - /whois can reveal any user's true origin. Most of the better networks mask at least the first part of your domain (DeepIRC, for example):
asdf is asdf@Deep-33F06877.lsanca2.dsl-verizon.net * asdf
"Deep-33F06877.lsanca2.dsl-verison.net" cannot easily be turned into the real hostname, although it is unique to that IP. This was done to prevent viruses from spreading and malicious users using ICMP flooders or nukers.
The best networks do not even reveal your ISP (LiquidIRC, among others):
asdf is asdf@7E65F7226E0486950FB7E4C96D213x * asdf
Of the 94 networks listed on Packetnews, 71 implement at least first-domain masking like DeepIRC. 75%.