Alternative Solution (has this been suggested?)

[UBERVIEW]

How about this. You download a software from the RIAA. You pay them 10 cents per MP3 you own. You are now legal. Thereafter, download all you want from whoever you want, at the end of the month, the files you decide to keep are registered via the software with RIAA, you send them the check (or paypal) for the ones you have chosen to keep in your library (you sampled the others but didn't want them)..

If the RIAA detects you uploading songs, all they have to do is check your registered library. You are free to do what you want at 10 cents per. Sure it's an honor system, but it is one that solves the problem. Users who don't honor it risk a lawsuit.
If at any one time there are 4 million users on Kazaa with 700 million files, then there must be at least 10 billion files out there. If most people paid, that's $500 million one time shot to the RIAA, far in excess of what they will get in any other way. In addition they will get untold millions every month for doing nothing. They'll have to take care of the artist accounting.

I don't think they can police away the current problem. The RIAA's business model will have to change. One caveat, no more than 10 cents, please or no one will do it.

[FutureIverson]

somebody posted this same idea, just search for it... Besides no one wants to pay no matter how cheap.

[UBERVIEW]

Learn to multiply. You're saying you have 36,000 mp3s that you got from 1,000 cd's? I don't think so. Therefore, your gigantic collection of 3,600 MP3s would cost you a measley $360 with no more threat of prosecution. And all that other illegal shit on your computer would never be subponead.

The process needs refinement, but I don't believe you should have to pay for songs you purchased by CD. Remember, this would be the honor system. Put them in a different directory.

[mojo-ris-in]

My suggestion before you ask if something has been discussed is to search the forum yourself to see. We have had literally dozens of new users riding in on their white horses that are here to save us lowly peasants from the big bad RIAA. Get this through your skull, the RIAA is in NO way interested in changing without enforcing some way to control what you download be it through DRM or another means. That's why no legal downloading service has been successful. Itunes has had limited success because of the fact that Mac users tend to buy into Apple hype but I seriously doubt that will repeat when they port the service over to PC later in the year.

Now Napster looks interesting and to see what Roxio is going to do will be interesting but if I am expected to pay for an MP3, I want to own that MP3 and be able to burn it or dl to my MP3 player as many times as I want without these lame restrictions they currently employ.

[Krell]

If you had bothered to be here a while before trying to save the world, you'd know that all this has been said 1,000 times, and no one is open to more 1/2 cocked notions.

Anything like this is going to torn to shreads, and rightfully so.


Dont post any more solutions or RIAA nonsense. If your not interested in the REAL aspects of file sharing, this isnt the place for you.

[Aaron73153]

I think it’s funny that there are so many threads being created about alternatives/compromises with the RIAA. There is no point in trying to reach a compromise with the RIAA you won't get one; they're in an all or nothing deal. They want it their way or now way. If you are able to reach a compromise with Castro over the US sanctions then you might have a chance wit the RIAA. The RIAA is full of execs with their heads so far up their asses, their in perpetual darkness. They don't like any alternatives to the current way of doing business because it will cause them to lose money. They have been in heaven since the CD was forced on the consumer so they could increase their profits. Their excuse for exorbenant pricing was new technology. Now what’s their reason for prices going up when CD technology has become that any schmuck can get a burner for $50 and CDs for %0.02 a piece and make the same quality CD as in the store? So before we start giving in to the concerns of the RIAA we need to start hearing them giving in the concerns of the consumer, until then VIVA P2P!

[Aaron73153]

Krell, you said it best in much fewer words than me, your my hero, damn if only i could be as frank with the technologically deficient at work as you are with the newbies. :fire

BTW 200th Post!!!!!

(as Special Ed) YAY!

[Kevin06906]

I'm not paying shit lol. I'm just enjoying free music for now.

[johnsmatrix]

"If the RIAA detects you uploading songs, all they have to do is check your registered library. You are free to do what you want at 10 cents per. Sure it's an honor system, but it is one that solves the problem. Users who don't honor it risk a lawsuit. "

Honor system...Hehe Thats funny

[REDO]

Originally posted by UBERVIEW
Learn to multiply. You're saying you have 36,000 mp3s that you got from 1,000 cd's? I don't think so. Therefore, your gigantic collection of 3,600 MP3s would cost you a measley $360 with no more threat of prosecution. And all that other illegal shit on your computer would never be subponead.

The process needs refinement, but I don't believe you should have to pay for songs you purchased by CD. Remember, this would be the honor system. Put them in a different directory.

honor system. By Nature, humans will never be truly honest. They will lie about which mp3's are legal and illegal. Most everybody would say that their whole entire collection is legal. :sw

[isus]

Originally posted by UBERVIEW
Learn to multiply. You're saying you have 36,000 mp3s that you got from 1,000 cd's? I don't think so. Therefore, your gigantic collection of 3,600 MP3s would cost you a measley $360 with no more threat of prosecution. And all that other illegal shit on your computer would never be subponead.

$360 ehh?

wasn't paying for the price-fixed cd's cost enough?

(it would be nice if windows would not decide what i was trying to highlight. i can control my mouse good enough to highlight what i want, and nothing else... piece of shit m$... *sigh*)

[FutureIverson]

No one's paying for music, so go shove your idea up your own ass your dumb. And stop ass kissin' buddy. Has the RIAA scared you so much you wanna pay. They don't care theydon't want you to share music and that's final it's not negotiable. I really am sick of riaa threads already and that's the reason i joined. Read the n00b thread. Don't be one... I don't care about your ideas their not going to work

[UBERVIEW]

You're wrong. I don't like the RIAA at all, and I definitely don't like what the four big record companies are doing in the name of the artists.

(Speaking of which, IF you keep calling them "the RIAA", you aren't gonna have any luck getting people to boycott CDs produced by the big four.) Especially if the average shopper thinks that he is boycotting "the artists" and depriving them of money. ( I read the Courtney Love letter).

However, I am NOT encouraged that Congress is going to see the wisdom of your argument (which I guess is that music should be free). And outside of an act of Congress, the RIAA has no incentive to stop extorting $10,000 per head from anyone that they decide to sue. Anyone. Most people, including the RIAA, know that each user's legal fees could well exceed $10 grand and it sounds like that is the figure they are looking for. They can spend the next ten years suing 900 people per month and getting $10,000 per wack. Do you want to put up with this shit for that long? Do you think that limiting your library to 99 songs will guarantee that you won't get that knock on your door? If you download the equivalent of five CD's (fifty songs), will $5 be that hard to cough up?

The ten cent solution would solve alot of problems and quite possibly be a final solution that everyone could live with (with the exception of those people who contend that they have 36,000 mp3s). Maybe that guy will have to ease up on his downloads.

[notbob]

Originally posted by UBERVIEW


The ten cent solution would solve alot of problems and quite possibly be a final solution that everyone could live with (with the exception of those people who contend that they have 36,000 mp3s). Maybe that guy will have to ease up on his downloads.

you don't even get it i BOUGHT 1000 CDs! i paid 1000's of dollars for them! i overpaid the riaa monopoly, and am not giving them 1 more penny, especially for the stuff i paid for once already! i also legally downloaded another 1000 albums from emusic.com--i am not paying for them again either

as for the other 1000, i ripped them from library discs, or from friends, which are not paid for, but i don't care at this point, as i have already paid 12,000 dollars for a big pile of plastic and cardboard

1000 albums is about 12000 songs-- i should pay 2400 dollars for something i paid for once already? and 1200 for the rest? 1200 dollars is a month and a half of work, and doesn't take into account the bills i have to pay

you 15 year old saps have no idea how the real world works. your parents pay for everything, you think legislation and government actually work, and you think your ideas actually matter--well they don't

the riaa doesn't want compromise--they want their monopoly to remain intact. they don't want licensing, they don't want more access to the music, and they don't want to hear your ideas (not that they'd ever see them here)

go to school, get a job, have a family, and then tell us your opinions ,. maybe then they'll be worth hearing