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mojo-ris-in
July 28th, 2003, 02:26 PM
This thread's purpose is to answer the common questions that people have regarding the RIAA's current actions against file sharers.

Q1 Who are the RIAA targeting?

Answer: The RIAA are currently targeting copyrighted music files being traded on the large P2P services such as the Fastrack Network which encompasses Kazaa, Grokster, and Imesh. They may also be tracking on other services also but obviously Kazaa being the largest is their main target. As they are an American organization, they are only targeting American filesharers at this time. However it should made aware that similar organizations exist outside of the United States and they may eventually take similar steps in the future.


Q2: What's the safest P2P to use?

Answer: In a nutshell, no current P2P network is 100% immune. You can minimize the danger by using several different methods but if you're sharing files you are taking a risk.
Some methods to help mask yourself include using smaller P2P networks that fall under the scope, using a private hub for trading such as DC++ , Waste, or MIRC, or P2Ps that offer SSL and HTTP proxying such as ES5. Another way to access files is through newsgroups. Though they take more work than p2p, there are a plethora of files there and since you are not connecting to a network, you are relatively safe. Some people also use a program called Peer Guardian to block known companies scanning on P2Ps but the ip ranges on these companies change frquently making it hard to keep good updated lists of these companies to block. It should be also noted that new versions of Kazaa Lite++ offer Peer Guardian bundled in the program and also implements other security features such as not allowing anybody to see all of your files and routing the traffic through another port.

Q3: Are they targeting people who share movies or software?

Answer: No. The RIAA is only going after copyrighted music sharers. Movies fall under another organization known as the MPAA and software falls under the BSA. However it should be stated that all 3 agencies monitor the various networks for copyright violations and there have been reports of people receiving letters from their ISPs regarding movie piracy. They are out there but not to the degree of the RIAA.

Q4: If they are going after sharers, can't I just disable sharing and be safe?

Answer: You can disable sharing and that would keep the media companies out but honestly if you're going to do that, you should just stay away from file sharing. The networks depend on people sharing files. If everyone stops sharing files, the networks die period. Plus not sharing will get you cut off from several of the networks. If you're not going to share, you should consider the newsgroups route as sharing is not a requirement.

Q5: Why are they going after users for filesharing instead of the networks?

Answer: A recent court case against Grokster and Morpheus paved the way for this shift. Basically the courts said that these networks could not be shut down as they could be used to distribute legal files and that the users were basically to blame for the illegal file trading going on these networks. Another court decision, this time against ISP Verizon, basically mandates that ISPs have to disclose personal information to the media organizations on customers that have been flagged as engaging in file trading. These 2 cases paved the way for the RIAA to undertake their current actions against file sharers.

Q6: How do they know what files I'm sharing?

Answer: They have companies that scan the users files on the networks. Once they have identified an illegal file sharer, the scanners record the name of the file and any identifying hash marks along with your IP address and the time of the infraction. With this information in hand they subsequently supponea your ISP to get your personal information which the ISP is obliged to do and proceed from there.

Q7: What if I delete my files after I receive a letter from the RIAA. Will I be safe then?

Answer: There is no conclusive answer to this question but the RIAA believes once they originally obtain the information, they have enough evidence to sue you. One thing to remember is this has yet to be tested in a court as all current similar cases have been settled out of court because of the expense of taking such a case to trial.


Q8 What can I do to protect my rights?

Answer: The best way to help the cause is through knowledge. Keep abreast of current information and support organizations that are fighting for the rights of file sharers such as the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF). Also, if you are of age, register to vote and exercise that right to vote people in that are not afraid to change these archaic laws. You could also inform your local Congress person how you feel about the current laws. But perhaps the most important thing you can do if you really want to hurt the RIAA is to hurt them in their pockets by not buying artists affiliated with the RIAA or by purchasing only from independent artists.

mojo-ris-in
July 28th, 2003, 02:44 PM
This thread is for answering any questions not addressed in the common questions and answers thread. If you have questions that weren't covered, this is the place to ask them. However, any posts started to incite paranoia in the forum will be removed. This is also a general question and answer thread, so I don't want to see program and network fanboys sticking in plugs for their aps. Any advertising in this thread will be removed.

phalkon30
July 28th, 2003, 03:37 PM
"Fastrack Network which encompasses Kazaa, Grokster, and Limewire"

Since when does Limewire connect to FT? its a Gnutella client. Imesh is the other FT client, along with Some other smaller releases like MLdonkey and some mac programs.

Otherwise, looks good. Nice

mojo-ris-in
July 28th, 2003, 03:44 PM
OOPS my bad. I'll correct that.

FileHoover
July 28th, 2003, 04:08 PM
There is a slight error in the statement about ES5.

ES5 does not use SOCKS proxies. It uses HTTP and SSL proxies which are very numerous on the net.

mojo-ris-in
July 28th, 2003, 04:58 PM
Originally posted by FileHoover
There is a slight error in the statement about ES5.

ES5 does not use SOCKS proxies. It uses HTTP and SSL proxies which are very numerous on the net.

My apologies. I'll fix it.

Foreverboard
July 28th, 2003, 05:03 PM
Good Post mojo-ris-in. thanks =)

Krypt0
July 28th, 2003, 05:28 PM
good post..

FutureIverson
July 29th, 2003, 09:09 PM
that is good, i think as long as new peepz read it before posting it will help out a lot.

Theinfamousone
July 29th, 2003, 10:17 PM
You could also advise people to go about their life, downloading whatever they want, but try not to share copyrighted files....LOL.

I share probably over a hundred gigs on Kazaa, but I'm still in no danger of being sued because what I share is not copyrighted, (atleast not by the RIAA). This is definately the best way to go. There are 6 billion other people in the world that can share copyrighted files without putting themselves at risk. There will always be atleast one source for brand new music like Usher and stuff like that.

What worries me is when everyone joe shmoe thinks that not sharing anything will fix everything.

isus
July 29th, 2003, 10:17 PM
nice thread.

im still gonna bet that you will be busy for quite a while anyway, deleting other threads about the riaa.

one thing tho: in q8, you say to keep abreast of current news, but don't mention sites like zp itself, or others like neowin and slyck (the two that seem to keep up quite a bit with the big stories)

mojo-ris-in
July 29th, 2003, 10:52 PM
Originally posted by isus
nice thread.

im still gonna bet that you will be busy for quite a while anyway, deleting other threads about the riaa.

one thing tho: in q8, you say to keep abreast of current news, but don't mention sites like zp itself, or others like neowin and slyck (the two that seem to keep up quite a bit with the big stories)

Well I tried to stay very general with the guide even though I named various aps and websites. As far as news sites go If new people are reading this then they know that ZP has news articles. The other news sources are also great and would be a help to new users and I see no problem with including them. It should be pointed out though that many of the stories from Slyck and other places end up being posted here also but that shouldn't stop people from checking out any other P2P forum they choose.

Keep those suggestions coming and when we get enough, I'll revise the original Q & A.

mojo-ris-in
July 29th, 2003, 11:00 PM
Originally posted by Theinfamousone

What worries me is when everyone joe shmoe thinks that not sharing anything will fix everything.

Great point TIO. Frankly this scares me more than anything that the RIAA is doing. They are scaring people to not share and that more than anything IS a major problem that will probably only get worse as this progresses. That's why I worked to get this out to try to calm people that are scared and just don't know what to do. If we can show people that there are safer ways to share and get it into their heads that the networks need sharing to survive then we can keep this thing going.

Theinfamousone
July 30th, 2003, 01:39 AM
Yeah honestly, the sick thing is when in press releases and stuff, they tell people that all they have to do is uncheck "sharing" and they are immune. What would you do first, stop sharing, or stop using P2P all together?

LOL, you're other thread got closed by Sephiroth. That's the first time I've seen a mod's thread get closed by another mod.

mojo-ris-in
July 30th, 2003, 01:42 AM
No it was already closed. Seph just added a comment that I probably should have but didn't. We decided to keep this one open for additions and to answer any questions and the other one was just an announcement.

MoonMan
July 31st, 2003, 04:22 PM
Great post mojo.

FrozenShadow23
August 18th, 2003, 04:05 PM
Most any p2p proggie can use proxies: both HTML and Socks (4 or 5). I use several proxies when downloading from K-Lite. Just need to make sure that they are anonymous (100% anonymous).

mojo-ris-in
August 18th, 2003, 06:24 PM
The problem with proxies though is they make your downloading slow. Plus if you use a proxy located in the United States, you can still be identified if a media organization supponeas the logs from the proxy providor. I'm not saying they will but they can. I dabbled with proxies for awhile and honestly I found them more trouble than they're worth. I get the same speeds on DC++ as I do with Klite proxied and when I use the private DC rooms, IMO it's safer.

Omyn
September 11th, 2003, 09:02 AM
they search for files that your sharing, it doesnt matter how much or how little.

Basically any copyrighted music that they own is going to get you in trouble.

Only way not to get sued is to share games and other programs, since they are not RIAA owned.

Foreverboard
September 11th, 2003, 09:03 AM
Originally posted by Omyn

Only way not to get sued is to share games and other programs, since they are not RIAA owned.


But most are still copywrited and will eventually get you trouble. the only true way of being safe is to not share at all. or Not use P2P.