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j72883
July 26th, 2003, 12:37 AM
Hello. I have an idea for a plan that would make file sharing more like sharing and less like duplication. It would work similar to the way trial versions of software are given to a computer. This is a sample success scenario:
1. Owner of a CD turns all of the songs on the CD into mp3s.
2. Assuming the owner of the CD has the software, the owneropens up his/her mp3s for sharing, and each mp3 owned by the user of the software would have a special encryption thing indicating that the mp3 belongs to their ip, hard drive, or some other identifying tag.
3. When someone requests to download the mp3, the user can either allow the downloader to request a length of time for using the mp3, or have a predetermined sharing timer interval.
4. At the end of the share interval, the mp3 will either self-destruct on the downloader's hard drive or in some way become unusable.
5. Assuming all goes as planned, constant frustration at having to continually download a song would eventually lead someone to either purchase the CD with the song/songs, or either say that its not worth it, and simply lose interest. This would stem piracy, since no one can profit, assuming the files are encrypted
securely enough.
Theinfamousone
July 26th, 2003, 01:20 AM
I have an idea, how about you do all that, and then make people pay for the mp3s they download on top of the $53 a month I'm already paying my ISP.
j72883
July 26th, 2003, 02:51 AM
Originally posted by Theinfamousone
I have an idea, how about you do all that, and then make people pay for the mp3s they download on top of the $53 a month I'm already paying my ISP.
53 dollars a month is extranneous! Maybe you should switch to AOL.
scenario
July 26th, 2003, 03:23 AM
not file duplication
not file sharing
IT HAS TO BE PARTIAL OVERLAPPING
by caching the data of others like partial filesharing does or freenet.
Wolfie
July 26th, 2003, 03:32 AM
Originally posted by j72883
53 dollars a month is extranneous! Maybe you should switch to AOL.
He prolly has broadband which don't much more cheaper than that. Of course AOL is cheaper since it's dial-up service loaded with crap.
Serps
July 26th, 2003, 05:49 AM
Originally posted by j72883
Hello. I have an idea for a plan that would make file sharing more like sharing and less like duplication. It would work similar to the way trial versions of software are given to a computer. This is a sample success scenario:
1. Owner of a CD turns all of the songs on the CD into mp3s.
2. Assuming the owner of the CD has the software, the owneropens up his/her mp3s for sharing, and each mp3 owned by the user of the software would have a special encryption thing indicating that the mp3 belongs to their ip, hard drive, or some other identifying tag.
3. When someone requests to download the mp3, the user can either allow the downloader to request a length of time for using the mp3, or have a predetermined sharing timer interval.
4. At the end of the share interval, the mp3 will either self-destruct on the downloader's hard drive or in some way become unusable.
5. Assuming all goes as planned, constant frustration at having to continually download a song would eventually lead someone to either purchase the CD with the song/songs, or either say that its not worth it, and simply lose interest. This would stem piracy, since no one can profit, assuming the files are encrypted
securely enough.
Sorry call me stupid but i don't understand. Zeropaid is a file sharing site why would you want to come up with an idea to make it more difficult to get files.
jonnymnemonic
July 26th, 2003, 05:58 AM
First of all, any song you listen to can be recorded into any file format you want without encryption or tags or anything you don't want, easily bypassing any self-destruct mechanism.
The only way this could possibly be implemented is if the operating system itself becomes a digital rights cop. That is actually possible, but any purveyor of operating systems would probably hesitate (wisely) before doing any such thing because should their operating system become a cop, there will be alternative operating systems that do NOT police you, and users would naturally gravitate to the operating systems with more freedom and flexibility. If Microsft implements digital rights policing into Windows, for example, we'd probably see Linux benefitting hugely in terms of installed user base, and you'd probably see Microsoft income and stock prices plunge dramatically.
Ain't gonna happen.
muffenme
July 26th, 2003, 06:52 AM
:fire
:shoot
I can't see it working either because we could write it to a CD before playing it and the file stays intack. The encryted infomation could be also removed leaving a fresh file.
Operation System as police, people would patch the operation System so it wouldn'tt police them.
Media player, could work but could also be patch with the option disable.
:tol
I can't think of a way to prevent sharing of files so load your hard drives up and share away.
:hole
mr.jip
July 26th, 2003, 07:53 AM
check out
http://news.dmusic.com/article/7240
its an article on this kinda sharing
Da Game
July 26th, 2003, 08:19 AM
my broadband is 30 a month...compared to a dial up connection at aol costing 21?
Brycen257
July 26th, 2003, 03:58 PM
j72883
I have to agree with the numerous other comments that this is a dumb idea . It would make it more difficult to obtain the files you want at any time. It would cost far more and in the end, you can only enjoy them for a short time.
Toss this one back in the oven, because this idea is definitely
half-baked.
j72883
July 26th, 2003, 04:39 PM
In order to make a file-sharing utility more legitimate as a "sharing" program, tthe application that I proposed would be a good way of doing so. In order to prove my point:
Taken from www.dictionary.com:
share - . shared, shar·ing, shares
v. tr.
To divide and parcel out in shares; apportion.
To participate in, use, enjoy, or experience jointly or in turns.
To relate (a secret or experience, for example) to another or others.
To accord a share in (something) to another or others: shared her chocolate bar with a friend.
Duplicate:
v. tr.
To make an exact copy of.
To make twofold; double.
To make or perform again; repeat: a hard feat to duplicate.
Now, if we look at the synonyms for share:
Entry: share
Function: verb
Definition: split
Synonyms: accord, administer, allot, apportion, assign, bestow, deal, dispense, distribute, divide, divide with, divvy, divvy up, dole out, experience, give out, go Dutch, go fifty-fifty, go halves, go halvesies, mete out, parcel out, part, partake, participate, partition, pay half, piece up, prorate, quota, ration, receive, shift, slice, slice up, split, split up, yield
Concept: division
Nowhere is duplicate or copy listed.
eivioolla
July 26th, 2003, 05:27 PM
Did it ever occur to you that maybe we are just misusing the term "share". Yes, it's the duplication that we want and will also get. You're idea is stupid because no one wants it. Except RIAA perhaps.
HellHound
July 29th, 2003, 09:00 PM
i think that if anibody wants it because they have a rare idea of a nobody´s utopia or something like that.
why someone wants to pay for music that they can have for free with kazaa or imesh ??? for not be pirate? for not be persecuted by the RIAA ??? or because he is extremely law´s side guy... i think that your idea have no future.. sorry:shy