Does Riaa Have Any Power In Europe ?

[jessigirlfr]

Can we be sued by the RIAA when we live in Europe. ? And how would they know we live in europe if they only take IPs

[Jelsoft]

No, the RIAA won't sue you if you live in Europe.

But the local record industry in Europe might go after European users.


And how would they know we live in europe if they only take IPs


Each IP address range is unique to a specific region in the world.

It's very easy to locate where a person is downloading from.

[REDO]

no the RIAA is an American trade oprganization. So this threat is only for American users. I imagine organizations like the RIAA in other countries will follow suit if this endeavor succeeds. They can however, find out your information by your IP alone. They can do a whois on that IP and find out who the ISP is and subpeona it for your information. They can run a tracert on your ip and figure out generally where you live.

[The Hunter]

As I feel this is a legitimate question I am not closing this thread. Also I feel that my fellow Canadians should watch their backs, as much of what happens here, is governed by our neighbours.

[FrozenShadow23]

They may not have any REAL power, but it is possible for governements of two different countries to work together, so don't expect to be safe forever. RIAA may just pay enough to have the US gov start talking to european governments so that they can work together to aprehend "criminals." My opinion at least, I don't know for sure, I hope i'm wrong.

[method77]

any of these can do exactly the same thing the RIAA is doing in their respective countries I don't think that a judge would allow a such a thing here. I mean, allow some organisation to search an individuals pc? Hey, this is not America. European laws have shown that they respect peoples rights more than the US. Australians also.

[cheapprick]

Originally posted by The Hunter
As I feel this is a legitimate question I am not closing this thread. Also I feel that my fellow Canadians should watch their backs, as much of what happens here, is governed by our neighbours.

Heh, not lately. I'm guessing they hold off on drastic steps just because of that.

[The Hunter]

i wish bud, but a while back our own version of the riaa, said to the globe and mail, that the procedings were being watched with interest. i have been trying to find the link, but to no avail. In the meantime, I will continue to upload like hell.

[cheapprick]

Yeah, I saw that on the national news. Truthfully though I would like to believe they will be watching more than the court proceedings, but also the negative backlash that results.

[The Hunter]

I agree, this could be very interesting to watch.

[method77]

Originally posted by notbob
bertelsman is a german company, vivendi is french

if anyone could start suing europeans for infringement, it would be them again, I don't think that a judge would allow those people to sue some 13 year old for filesharing. Human rights people would go mad and so will the rest of us. History has shown that public opinion actually counts here.
The companies you named might go after filesharing but with different tactics. They are smart enough to know that sueing everyone is not a solution.

[FileHoover]

What happens is the United States muscles other governments into doing what they want.

Sonny Bono (A Scientologist), when he was in the house of Represents and John Travolta (A Scientologist) worked on The US Congress to force Sweden to amend ITS CONSTITUTION to keep Scientology copyrighted files out of the public eye!

Sweden had a law that court cases could not be sealed and must always be made available to the public. Scientology got some of its super secret documents in a court case. The US congress made Sweden change their consitution to suite the Scientologists. That's what money and influence can do. Don't underestimate it.

http://www.rickross.com/reference/scientology/Scien23.html

http://www.lysator.liu.se/nordic/div/offentlighet.html

[sharedawealth]

RIAA has a strong influence on its peers oversea's

[Celtic Fox]

I'm so glad not to be living in the U.S. even though I like going there once in a while. O Canada.:finger

[Power Penguin]

Originally posted by notbob
IFPI= international phonograph industry (worldwide RIAA)
BPI= british phonograph industry (british RIAA)
ARIA= australian recording industry (aussie RIAA)

lots more etc.

any of these can do exactly the same thing the RIAA is doing in their respective countries

Since when was Australia in Europe?

[FileHoover]

Originally posted by notbob
bertelsman is a german company, vivendi is french

if anyone could start suing europeans for infringement, it would be them
Sorry for coming at you guys but you are just dreaming. Here are several cases where copyright holders RAIDED (arrived and searched the premesis) europeans:

http://www.df.lth.se/~triad/triad/3words/xs4all.html
http://www.xs4all.nl/~jaco/cos/
http://www.uncletaz.com/backyard/entheta/notswar.html

I don't post these things to scare you. I am just posting the truth. There are easy ways to protect yourself. Just stop pretending that you are beyond the reach of copyright holders.

Scientology vs. The Internet has already played this battle out on a small scale. There is a LOT to be learned from that earlier skirmish.

[NDGAARONDI]

Even if the governments work together. It's the judiciary that have the final say.

Like in England, the judiciary are respected as independent from any government stuff. They have the final say really. And sometimes if it's not good, the judges can try and bend the rules, within their power.