Winmx 3 and up

[NoGood]

Is anyone having problems logging onto any Opennap network with the new versions of Winmx 3 +? If you are please post it here so that we can get any information on the kind of problems you are having. And please also state exactally what happens and what you do when you expierence any problems of this sort ...

- Our network is currently blocking all incoming attempts from the Winmx clients 3+ because of login problems...

If anyone is having any problems with the winmx 3 + and cant find an old version you can get it from here (http://www.trippymx.co.uk/)


Thank you for your time,
The Ballad Network (www.ballad.gr)

[PatientSaint]

I still really haven't had any trouble with Winmx 3 + really i did once and did a clean resinstall and everything is fine again. I haven't had any trouble really connecting to any open nap servers either. Nice Site btw is ballad any connection to old Ballad server off napster servers?

[-Huize-]

Yup the name comes from ballad.napster.
I was a reg there and sentimental feelings i guess lol

[PatientSaint]

ah ok i wondered i was a rave.napster reg myself lol feel ya on the sentimental thing. I went to Green sometimes as well.

[-Huize-]

ahh rave yeah that one had a little bad name lol, if i remeber correctly that is. Only went there to cuss at people when they nuked sum m8's of me one time...was funny tho lol..


Yup sentiment god u know alot of old napster regs are now running slavanap or opennap . besides a filesharing proggie Napster was WAAAAYYY more to sum of us...oh well belongs to the past now tho....had sum great times there

[eclectica]

Well thanks for giving shit enough to ask for some feedback from the masses. Currently I'm connected to covcrew.rapigator.com:3456 with no problems.

By the way your webpage which lists the servers
http://www.ballad.gr/Ballad/servers.html
has a typographical mistake. The very last one says covcrew.rapigator.co:1111 Also this server: gauloises.dns2go.com:3456 comes up as "host not found".

[PatientSaint]

Yep Rave def had some quirky people..lol. i guess that is an understatement. Well It's been broken for a while and i've been looking for a good open source place to hang out. I do know ofa few but they're really kinda quiet nowadays. So any suggestions would be great :cross

[NoGood]

Changing of the ports for some reason try gauloises.dns2go.com:3456, or 1111 for this

[-Huize-]

I run Gauloises.dns2go and it could have bin because my dns proggie was down for sum time yesterday. this can resolve in host not found.

For covcrew try port 3456 or 8888, 1111 is a port but not sued for users to log on. However at the moment covcrew is having comp problems and wont be up alot due to this.


To PatientSaint:

Well our little network has a nice chat but can be quiet aswell at times. The way like it was on napster was kewl and well that will prob never happen on a slava/opennap server. And i HATE that winmx network chat, its just to lame for me. But a kewl thing is there are alreay bots coming out for on winmx's chat....havent got on yet but maybe in the near future who knows hehe



p.s. anyone any ideas howcome eamil notification doesent work here ?

[Plaka]

[i]By the way your webpage which lists the servers
http://www.ballad.gr/Ballad/servers.html
has a typographical mistake. The very last one says covcrew.rapigator.co:1111 Also this server: gauloises.dns2go.com:3456 comes up as "host not found". [/B]

Typo and port no: are fixed..... thanks for the input :D

webmaster (webmaster@ballad.gr)

[eclectica]

http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze2fwz4/Ballad.jpg

[goweropolis]

Anyone know the reason why WinMX 3+ clients are banned from some OpenNap servers? I'm curious. I hope the WinMX programmers are aware of the problem with their software and the bad reputation among OpenNap servers.

[-Huize-]

Well we dont know why but somehow 90% of winmx 3.2 and 3.22 users Log on to our servers and then Log off after 4 seconds, ( disconnect caused by software) this happens with mass numbers and well that consumes enourmous bandwith from us. Also due to all the shared files lists being send when on log on and being cut off, gives ue enourmous lag between servers. Thus to keep our network as laglow as possible we decided to ban winmx 3.xx . Also because of the bandwith it consumes it takes our uptime down drastic. per example i have a uptime off 2 days and a few hours on average then i reboot and start my server back up, back when i was allowing winmx 3.xx it took my uptime down to a day or less. and it geve the uptime alot of lag and even worse it slowed me down on all my actions on my computer.

Thus the reason of the winmx 3.2 and 3.22 being blocked on the ballad network.


And for asfar of the developers knowing that...i dunno its hard to send them any feedback so we cant msg them. And well even if we could i seriously doubt it would make any difference

[eclectica]

I wonder if you were to use the OpenNap program instead of the SlavaNap one, if you would have the same problems with your servers.

[-Huize-]

Alot of people say that opennap is better and we are most likely going to try it one of these days, But opennap was originally written for linux. Thus it still has it clashes with windows

[eclectica]

OpenNap seems to work fine with Windows. I thought SlavaNap was the one with trouble, causing memory leaks. Also, it is not fully compatible with WinMX. The thing that's undesireable about OpenNap is that it's sort of hard to set up and use. Maybe linking to other servers is harder with OpenNap too. But if you're running a server in which you give free reign to the users, without micromanaging their files or habits, then OpenNap is the way to go.

I sent the link of this thread to an OpenNap server administrator, and these were his comments:
I have had troubles with too, except the ones that reject WinMx 3.22 which are logged in fine here (simply change client to "audioGnome") I never experience the 4 second connection, and drop out, they never seem to have trouble with me, so I suggest its something to do with the damn firewall thing, that so many panickers run, and don't have a clue to set up correctly.

[-Huize-]

some other slavanap network also dont have the problems we have, we cant figure it out ourselves aswell, as far i know only about 10-20 nets have the same prob.

and about:
But if you're running a server in which you give free reign to the users, without micromanaging their files or habits, then OpenNap is the way to go.


we do however watch out for bastards with filthy porn, like rape, kiddieporn and other Nasty shit we do ban them adn do report their isp's

[Plaka]

I think the point is maybe being missed here.

WinMX 3** is designed to make many connections as a Primary user and therefore allow multi downloads. SlavaNap is not designed to facilitate this, most Slava Networks only allow one connection (socket) per IP. This is most likely where the incompatability between SlavaNap and winmx 3** lies.

The Programmers of WinMx are not going to change the multi point D/L ability. SlavaNap Programmers are busy trying to update / rewrite the whole program in a new language. So the chances are, nothing will be done for a while yet.

Meanwhile we SlavaNap Server Operators are forced to block WinMx 3** versions. Personally with 3** allowed I use 97% of my Bandwidth, and when 3** is blocked 20-30% is used !!!

Oh, and yes with SlavaNap there is amemory leak problem.

c ya on the boards :fire

[Plaka]

Originally posted by eclectica
Well thanks for giving shit enough to ask for some feedback from the masses.

Our problem as server owners is that we Don't get "feedback from the masses" people use our service which costs us money and don't share or want to chat or even post at forum !

If you can figure a way for users to give us "feedback" we at Ballad would be very happy to do whatever we can to help the File-Sharing Community. We have all the tools i.e. Website, Forum, Guestbook and plenty of e-mails to contact via MSN, Yahoo or ICQ.

We try to have the best file and GB stats of all the Networks but with ZERO lag, so everyone gets what they want and FAST

Plaka

[BillyG99191]

After hearing all this - what Windows program do you ops reccomend using for Opennap? I still prefer to use WinMX 2.6, which works fine.

[-Huize-]

WinMX 2.6 is perfect, i use that myself for downloading and multiple network logging on. It does all it needs to do without the features that make versions 3 and higher so troublesome

For chat i use SunshineUN, a nice napster based client with alot of adjustable settings . However sunshine doesent work all to well under winXP

[Plaka]

Originally posted by BillyG99191
After hearing all this - what Windows program do you ops reccomend using for Opennap? I still prefer to use WinMX 2.6, which works fine.

Hi Billy .... well I like WinMx 2.6 for Downloading, that is when I get the chance ! Its trouble free and easy to setup and use. Ok you don't get the Multi-point Transfers but then again you don't get the "Queued at 150" either !!!

:fire

[-Huize-]

Ok the problem with winmx 3.xx it uses random passwords by default, which creates the entire logg off at thge secondary connection ( after 4 secs )

Solution: Turn automatically randomise password off

New Problem: How to ge this message across the all them winmx 3.xx -ers around the world, because i aint going to unblock it if not all have changed it ( idle hope i know )

Btw i dident find this out myself all credit goes to jamie see link below:

http://slavanap2.sourceforge.net/forum/thread.php?threadid=1087&boardid=2&page=1#6

[eclectica]

So are you automatically registering your users, or is it that once logged in they are registered? Then perhaps you can disable the ghost kill feature, so that the user will get the message that the user is online already, and won't be able to make two connections with one username. Or ban IP clones?

[-Huize-]

So are you automatically registering your users, or is it that once logged in they are registered? Then perhaps you can disable the ghost kill feature, so that the user will get the message that the user is online already, and won't be able to make two connections with one username. Or ban IP clones?

Nope no auto registering but for the time onlin the server remebers the username-password for that moment.

Only soultion from our side is to accept multiple connections on the same ip, which would suck for to many reasons to mention.




p.s. i saw ur server today but couldent log on ( server is full ) could u please add Huize to the friendlist or how it is called in opennap

[eclectica]

Huize

please add Huize to the friendlist or how it is called in opennap
Actually with OpenNap it is more strict. There are five user levels: leech, user, moderator, admin, and elite. Also, a password is required with your username, so I can't just register you based on your username without a password. You can e-mail me that info and I will register you as a moderator, so you can get into my pathetic little server.

You can also message me when you get into the server and I can change your status then, without having to know your password. You will then have to remain connected to the server until your status is changed.

[eclectica]

What ever happened to the inability of WinMX 3X to enter queues on SlavaNap servers? The other day I was using WinMX version 3.31 and a person successfully entered my queue while I was connected to a server running SlavaNap 2.21. So is it the new version of WinMX that was fixed, or the new version of SlavaNap?