the new dell!

[mp3MaStA88]

hey all you pc fans out there! there is a new dell on the market, and i think you will like it! it is dells 1st gaming pc that ever hit the market


The DimensionTM XPS is built for the hardcore gamer with XPS Technology that includes a new chassis design, specialized thermals to keep the system cool and quiet, power for the long haul, and the most engrossing realism in video and sound. With an Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor speeds up to 3GHz plus Hyper-Threading Technology with 800MHz Front Side Bus, extreme audio and graphics, and built-in 10/100 Ethernet for easy online connectivity, the XPS is ready to play.

here are some tech specs!


Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor at 2.80, 3.0 or 3.20 GHz with Hyper-Threading Technology and 800MHz front side bus
Intel® 875P chipset
256 MB Dual Channel DDR 400MHz SDRAM standard, upgradable to 2 GB
4 DIMM slots. Memory installed in pairs for dual channel

Drive Bays


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Externally accessible: Three 5.25" for CD, CD-RW, DVD or combination drive

One floppy drive bay


Internally accessible: Three 3.5-inch bays for hard drives



I/O Ports


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Externally accessible: Serial: Two 9-pin serial ports

Parallel: One parallel port

Video: One 15-hole connector

Keyboard: One 6-pin mini-DIN connector (or use USB connection)

Mouse: One 6-pin mini-DIN connector (or use USB connection)

IEEE 1394: Two IEEE 1394 ports - 1 front/1 back

USB: 8 USB 2.0 ports - 2 front/6 back

Headphone: 1 front headphone jack

Audio: 5.1 channel out (3 jacks), line in, and microphone

Network: One 10/100 Ethernet network connector


Internally accessible: Primary IDE Channel: 40-pin connector

Secondary IDE Channel: 40-pin connector on PCI local bus



Slots


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4 PCI slots

1 8X-AGP slot



Chassis


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Quiet yet robust thermal design.
Chassis features: 8 USB 2.0 ports (2 front, 6 back) and front headphone jack

Convenient front flip covers conceal front I/O ports and drive bays

3 - 5 1/4" external bays

3 - HDD bays

460W power supply

3 chassis fans for cooling. 2 more dedicated to the power supply.

Clam-shell design provides easy access. Opens with one latch while in upright position.

Color coded ports and internal cables simplify service and set up

Dimensions (H x W x D): 19.87" x 8.89" x 19.8"




Up to 200 GB hard drive

Optional: 120 GB RAID 1 (mirroring) and 240 GB RAID 0 (striping) configurations.

[CCSDUDE]

Totally leet, dood! Ahmm...no...that just sucks...I bet it cost 2k+ ...

I could build the same rig for much less, with better airflow...and drop the price even more if you toss in AMD in place of Intel...

Usually OEM systems are cheaper with a loss in quality and sometimes expandability...but I'm sure DELL is gonna try and pawn this POS off as 'elite' and sell it for much more then it's actually worth. I mean come the fuck on...some shitty Intel mobo won't out do any good K400's...so what the hell do they think they're blowing up peoples asses?

[nasrules]

It's a bit of a change for Dell, but at the end of the day...........it's still a Dell.

As CCS said, building your own machine is the way to go nowadays. It's so easy to find instructions, and so much cheaper to get the parts.

[BloodStraw]

The case looks pretty good for being a dell though!

[rainbowdemon]

It's a bit of a change for Dell, but at the end of the day...........it's still a Dell. I have a Dell Dimension 4300S. Got it almost 2 years ago. It has been doing just fine for me. I've asked this question before, and I'm going to ask it again. What's wrong with Dell? I think they are good machines!

[nasrules]

Don't get me wrong, I run a Dell, a Dimension 4100. But raving on about a Dell? Yes, the customer service is good. Yes, Dell are better than most manufacturers. But you're still better off building your own if you can.

[rainbowdemon]

But you're still better off building your own if you can.
I agree. I've been doing some reading on this. But I just don't have the knowledge to do this. Maybe someday.

[QuickSurfer]

I bet Dogster would run smooth as silk on that wouldnt it

[nasrules]

y4ah m4n!!!!! d4t5 a l337 d0g5t4 m4ch1n3!!?!?!!!!! ;-)

rainbowdemon: That's what I thought up until a month or so ago. As far as I can gather, the actual putting-together of the hardware is easy enough, and as long as you have a Bootdisk you can install an OS without any trouble.

[Captain_FLX]

Damn that Pc looks Great. I think it kinda looks like an AlienWare Case atleast close to it. I still think tho that if you REALLY want a Gamer Machine you should either Build your own to fit your aspects or Buy an AlienWare since it was MADE for Gamers.

[Winphuk]

Congratulations dude .........

[Induna]

Building a PC really isn't that difficult. I admit at first it might seem a little daunting, when you open up the case and see all the wires, cables everywhere. The thing you have to remember is that a computer is made up of a number of components, when connected together may look complicated, but when broken down, is nothing more than a techinal LEGO set.

It just takes a little confidence to put everything together. I would recommend you first try it out on a basic PC, buy secondhand parts from a local shop, paper, fair. And just give it a try. If you make a mistake, so what? That's the part of the fun of building a PC, learning.

Then move onto the more expensive, higher spec PC of your dreams.

[12345678910]

An Alienware box will be better for a gamer than anything that Dell produces. And on top of that building it yourself will save you some cash and give you a feel of what really is in your system.

256 MB Dual Channel DDR 400MHz SDRAM standard, upgradable to 2 GB

How is someone supposed to play hardcore games with that memory? The average user won't upgrade the RAM until they notice a problem.

Lata,
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[XtraNtnse]

Dell, or any other brand for that matter, blows. You want something done right, ya gotta build it yourself..

[Theinfamousone]

The problem with OEMs is that they probably give you integrated graphics card and sound cards, cheap Samsung RAM instead of Kingston, cheap mobo as CCS said etc. and then they bundle tons of software that isn't "free" as they say, you have to pay for it, it's included in the cost. They make you buy Windows XP, and Office probably and will include a year of "free" AOL, which they just charge you an extra $300 probably and give most of it to AOL for your subscription, by the time you get out the door, you've paid for so much worthless stuff. Plus it's just no fun having a computer made to look pretty.

[Krell]

Actually, that DELL is a pretty good machine, most of the recent ones have been. For the price you get the software bundle, and for users with the experience level we're talking about here, its a good choice, as their bound to screw it up, and at least DELL has an image in the drive.

Few of us could build the same quality machine, and have a software package that works . . . buying a machine with a warrenty means . . whe he needs support, he can call them, not us.

[mp3master1215]

so semi-newb why you stealin my name mp3masta88 i gotn it first!

[MxRob]

Originally posted by Krell
Actually, that DELL is a pretty good machine, most of the recent ones have been. For the price you get the software bundle, and for users with the experience level we're talking about here, its a good choice, as their bound to screw it up, and at least DELL has an image in the drive.

Few of us could build the same quality machine, and have a software package that works . . . buying a machine with a warrenty means . . whe he needs support, he can call them, not us.

I agree Krell I have put up a few Dell servers and workstations that have been running strong for the last 2 years. Their warranty is great even for the average person. They'll even come to your home after you jump through their tech support hoops.
:gj

[isus]

i wonder if it has enough usb ports.

1 for a camera
1 for a printer
2 for beyboard/mouse
1 for palm sync thingy
1 for those memory key thingys
1 for a bluetooth dongle thingy

and that's still only 7...

anyway, to the machine:
dell cuts corners everywhere. if you buy it, look inside, see all the wires hanging everywhere? i betcha they're not rounded. also, i betcha the mobo is nothing special, probly just uses an intel chipset, but made by a no-name vendor... the hard drives are probably weak, just 120gb to be 120gb... not a maxtor or wd. not even 7200rpm for that matter. the ram is probably bargain bin material... etc etc. you get the point.

if you want a real machine, make it yourself.

[david88]

I have a Dell 8250 that I got in November, it had a Western Digital 120Gb 7200RPM 8MB cache hard drive

[Induna]

Originally posted by isus
i wonder if it has enough usb ports.

1 for a camera
1 for a printer
2 for beyboard/mouse
1 for palm sync thingy
1 for those memory key thingys
1 for a bluetooth dongle thingy

and that's still only 7...




"Chassis features: 8 USB 2.0 ports (2 front, 6 back)"

Errr, yeah, it does.

[beardedwonder]

It looks ok but i'd still much rather build the computer myself, besides don't Dell use kids in 3rd world countries to build their computers for peanuts?

[isus]

Originally posted by Induna
"Chassis features: 8 USB 2.0 ports (2 front, 6 back)"

Errr, yeah, it does.

that was the point of my post... you don't pick up on sarcasm real well, doo you.

btw, for the 8th usb port, maybe a scanner. there. now we can justify the need for 8 usb ports.

jesus, talk about overkill.

[rainbowdemon]

not a maxtor or wd Dell Dimension 4300S. According to the device manager, the hd is: maxtor 6L020L1.

[PowerMan57two]

Yup, I built my own computer. Pretty damn close to the dells.

3.06Ghz Item P4
1GB RAM
16x dvd-rom
52x burner
533front bus side
240GB of space
and cool case with the see-through side glass.

[triniti]

Originally posted by Theinfamousone
The problem with OEMs is that they probably give you integrated graphics card and sound cards, cheap Samsung RAM instead of Kingston, cheap mobo as CCS said etc. and then they bundle tons of software that isn't "free" as they say, you have to pay for it, it's included in the cost. They make you buy Windows XP, and Office probably and will include a year of "free" AOL, which they just charge you an extra $300 probably and give most of it to AOL for your subscription, by the time you get out the door, you've paid for so much worthless stuff. Plus it's just no fun having a computer made to look pretty.

Dell does not use integrated items such as graphics...only ethernet, usb, etc... Also they gave me Kingston in my Deminsion 8200. Also dell does not bundle crap. Dell is about as good as it gets to building your own. Hell you can build your own dell on the website. Now SONY SUCKS!

[DemonusAE]

Dell makes great PC's!!! I don't have any complaints about them. Not bad for the price. Building your own is better, but...for the average user, better to buy from DELL.

Unfortunately, DELL Servers suck! Support....GREAT!! But I don't like using support 6 times a year! They have alot of problems with their SCSI Controllers ( amongst other things which I will not get into ).

I've had a Dell PC for 3 years. Still no need to upgrade. Haven't had not one problem with any of the hardware I got with it.

[shawners]

You could go to online stores that will make it to your SPECS, take out the crap you dont want, spend the money upgrading to better things, like better ram, faster bus, more pci slots, or better processor, dont they go up to 3.2 gigahertz? Or you could use pricescan or pricewatch to find lowest pc price parts, and if you want to save more money.. use your old pc parts, like the hard drive that already has the windows, and your cd-r drive. as well as anything useful. It looks great but you can take the shell off your pc, and spray crackling paint that looks really good=)

[shawners]

oh yeah, only the people on pot would advertise a dell.. At least that what the DELL dude got busted for.. DUDE your getting busted. = ) DONT EVer buy a compaq!! i own one and i hate it..

[Aaron73153]

The office switched this year from HP to Dell and they have been nothing but problems. As for the XPS, it didn't do as well as an ABS or an Alienware on PC World's benchmarks, building your own is still better becuase Dell is notorious for using bulk, cheap parts. That has been hell on the company when trying to order replacements and alot of things that you order from CDW don't work with Dell. We had a CD-Rom crap out on us and we had to oreder a new one from Dell for it to work, it cost $50! I still see Dell as the AOL of the computer market. Made for idiots that just don't know any better. I don't blame Steven, you have to be smokin weed if you choose to buy one.

[IsHaRe2000FilezSueMe]

YO I HAVE THAT PC. I just bought it. Its amazing. 48x CD SPEED, THE NEW ATI RADEON CARD, and great for file sharing. I bought mine with a 200 gb hard drive, but im probably going to have to buy another 1 soon

[jonnymnemonic]

I've done it both ways, have built several (well, more than several) myself, and bought some from Gateway and Dell as well. My last machine I built myself. My current machine is:

P3 3 ghz
1 gig fast memory (2x512)
Two 200-gig HDs
48x CDRW
1x DVD-+RW/DVDRAM
ATI Radeon 9700 Pro, w 128 megs
SoundBlaster Audigy2
Hauppage WinTV TV tuner PCI card
External USB2 Pinnacle TV Tuner (yes, I can watch two channels at once, in separate windows)
Integrated 10/100 ethernet (that's the only thing I would ever consider having integrated, and I am glad it is, saved me a slot)

It also came with a buttload of software, most of which I actually use.

I'm not at all dissatisfied with this machine (Gateway). It wasn't cheap, that's true, but with those parts, even if I had built it myself, it would not have been cheap, just cheapER. And this way, I got the components I wanted (Dell didn't offer dual 200 gig drives at the time I ordered, so they lost a customer), and I have a nice beefy warranty on all the parts (three years). And Gateway has great tech support, which I know from prior experience.

I'm not saying NOT to build your own system. But depending on how you go about it, you may not save as much as you think, especially if you want everything to function for a number of years, when that warranty begins to take on added importance.

Plus, I am lazy, and simply didn't feel like dealing with the headaches of ordering and assembling a machine myself this time. ;)

[jonnymnemonic]

P4, 3 ghz, not P3 ;)

[IsHaRe2000FilezSueMe]

Damn nice computer Johny. I want a DVD R drive myself. Wherd you buy yours?

[rbspace]

Me, personally, I build my computers from scratch. However I do agree with you folks that Dell's new gaming PC does look pretty sweet. Yes I know that Dell will charge a fortune for it and yes I know that you can get a better gaming PC by building it yourself. I think that this is a great innovation for the average user who doesn't know much about building a computer from scratch.

[Stownplayer]

old thread i know but i wanted to put this pic in...ha ha DUDe, Your Gay!!

[shawners]

takes one to know one.

[Vampmon]

I like Dells, my first PC was a Dell ... this looks good!

[PowerMan57two]

old thread i know but i wanted to put this pic in...ha ha DUDe, Your Gay!!

WOW! That pictures hot! Yummm......

[meyou123]

Actually, Krell seems to be more knowledgeable to answer this question, but I heard that Dells, HPs and other big name PC builders disable their motherboard BIOS so that newbies cannot get in and mess anything up.

Now to the average joe that doesn't tinker with his PC BIOS, I guess that is ok, But if you are a serious PC gamer or PC enthusiast...definately build your own PC. You can not only do it cheaper, but build it with the parts that you want in there instead of useless junk that the manufacturers think you may want.

[phalkon30]

Please, don't ever mention gaming and "Intel Xtreme Graphics" onboard in the same post. Last time I checked they were using a DX6 onboard chip. It barely plays solitare ;)

[Digital Bliss]

I may be drunk but I know i could build a better pc and cheaper in the state I am in

[Metalseeker 79]

256 MB of memory for a "gaming" PC is absolutely pathetic. Most people I know recommend 512 MB just to run Windows XP, and even though that's far over minimum spec (I've run it stably myself with only 80), there's no reason to have less with prices as low as they are.