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thegreatjoejoe
July 6th, 2003, 07:59 PM
Some people are saying that file sharing will go the same route as TV. Where in the past TV was free, but companies soon convinced people to pay for it. Do you think file sharing will go through the same process? I don’t know about you guys but I think and hope it will remain free. (But then again im still using rabbit ears)

Evil_Dweller_01
July 6th, 2003, 08:05 PM
Its impossible for p2p to become non-free as they say

P2P is free and always will be free

Why you ask?

Because the people are the ones that make it free..how are you going to make 100s of millions of people to pay for files? Developers of p2p programs offer it for free because they know it should be free..and they still have a way to make money themsevles

The only way for it to become non-free is if every developer went to the RIAA lol

IMPOSSIBLE

Brycen257
July 6th, 2003, 11:50 PM
I agree with Evil Dweller. No matter what other alternatives are available for pay music services, there will always be a large community that continues to obtain files from the internet for free. Just look at the large numbers of people that are obtaining cable or satellite Tv for free or the ones that make extra copies of DVD's or CD's for their friends. The technology is available to allow people to continue doing this in spite of what the music industry may try to stop it.

Mel_Smiley
July 7th, 2003, 02:24 AM
They need to look at it like this: I now spend almost 50 dollars a month on high speed internet service now. why? So I can download alot of good stuff fast. If we could not get the good stuff, most of us would not be paying 50 bucks just so ebay will load up faster. The whole entertainment industry needs to come up with a new business model to take advatage of this, and attract more costumers instead of this witch hunt they are undertaking now. If the music industry would only start their own ISP and say - hey, come on over to our service and download all you want and we won't f*ck with you ever again, most people would go for it. But they are to dumb to take advantage of technology and would rather spend millions setting up ways to bust their hard core target costumers.

method
July 7th, 2003, 02:43 AM
In most countries you need a license to run a TV station and a lot of money to set up equipment, studios, etc.

With p2p the equipment can be replicated for free. Duplicating the software is obviously costless and hundreds of other users connections handle the broadcasting, willingly for free.

You can bet the RIAA would love to be able to apply licensing fees to P2P. (See what they've done with streaming radio!)

Truth of the matter is, if you charge for a p2p application, someone else will clone it, add more features and make it free or just hack your client. and improve it!... (DC++, KaZaALite, EMule and various 'Clean' versions)

Lucian
July 9th, 2003, 03:09 AM
People with money will pay for quality.

Mp3s should be free, P2P should work like TV, and just like TV if you want higher quality content you pay for it.

You wont be satisfied with only free when other people have music thats better than yours, in bettter quality, or perhaps the ability to listen to music live, talk to musicians, or whatever features they decide on.

wIth enough features and a decent price it can work, for $10-15 a month they can make people subscribe. You wont do it but some people will because they have the money and want the best quality.

Lucian
July 9th, 2003, 03:12 AM
Mel Smiley your Idea is good too, I'd sign up to Sonys ISP. The only problem is I dont like just Sonys music, also it doesnt help musicians it helps Sony, and what about the indie musicians?

See it can never work with the RIAA as the middleman. We neeed a neutral middle man or a group of neutral middlemen, such as P2P companies and ISPs,

thegreatjoejoe
July 18th, 2003, 09:49 AM
well stated.

-thegreatjoejoe

aqlo
July 18th, 2003, 09:58 AM
What if the big broadband providers all paid licensing fees based on traffic percentages and so on, spread the wight around proprtionally? I don't mean that as a rhetorical question either. How much would it end up costing us the consumer? Would you still pay for cable if the cost went up 10% and all this fun became legal? What if the cost doubled? What if it only seemed like 10% was all that was necessary but as some of the low-end dropped off the cost kept going up slowly until it was twice as much eventually, but it had snuck up on gradually? (Think about the price of CDs as the collusion and monopolization increased.)

Rickio
July 18th, 2003, 10:00 AM
If the powers that be somehow win, they will likely end up charing a huge tax on bandwidth and thereby making p2p something you pay for.

Don't go and think they can't win. Though I feel it will be a totally wrong and bad deal if they do win. The problem seems to be that the current laws and proposed laws are on their side.

Homeygirl2
July 29th, 2003, 08:18 AM
Next thing you know the RIAA will start shutting down garage and rumage sales for people reselling there music and video's what is this world coming to but corporate @#$%'s.