What you got against Metallica?

[maartendc]

Hey all,

I was wondering... why do u guys all hate Metallica and the new album so much.
I saw em live on Rock Werchter 2003 in Belgium two days ago, and all I can say is... SWEET.
They absolutely know how to handle those instruments and put on a show. I haven't heard the new album on cd yet, but it kicked ass live. And so did the old songs.

Ok, they are against filesharing and stuff... but that doesn't make them a less good band...
I think most bands deep down are against filesharing, but they just don't want to admit it, because they are afraid of losing fans!

[rainbowdemon]

What you got against Metallica? Personally, nothing. But as a band they have had better days. Songs like "The Unforgiven" were masterpieces. The more recent material just does not measure up. Just my opinion, everybody likes different things.:wings

[Celtic Fox]

Fuck Metallica, They used to be my favorite band, Their new album is total crap. sounds like Lars traded in his drum kit for garbage can lids. They are also some of the main people that want to sue your ass for file-sharing. Since the Load album Metallica's music has taken a slide down the toilet, I prefer to listen to Overkill, they've been kicking around since the same time as Metallica and have stuck to putting out powerful music that still has the Overkill signiture. At least they never dabbled with mascara.

[kita]

They Now suck, they've sucked since Load & reload. They should unload..........:mellow

[cheapprick]

I have nothing against them, they rock.

[Potato]

Their sound has changed so much from when they first started out... I think the sound that made them who they are is gone, and now it's like.... a different band.

I like Orion though. They DO have a few songs I enjoy.

[Lamourlady]

hey, i love Metallica...but their earlier stuff.
come on....this "new" sound just sucks.
they tried something different and it failed, in my opinion.
to change your sound just to fit the recent change in musical popularity is just plain wrong.

as for their politics...well they proved to me that they r hypocrites.
i'm sure they thought the publicity of the whole "Napster" thing would help them as well as show their greed and now all of a sudden, after all the bullshit, they somehow changed their tune???
pah-lease.
if in the future they put out something worthy, i will listen and enjoy, politics aside.
but they r just sucking "all" around.

[nasrules]

I've liked all their albums up until now, and the new one is starting to grow on me. I was watching a recording of them playing at the Rock AM Ring festival in Germany recently on MTV2, and they are still great live. James simply puts more effort into the singing when he's live nowadays.

As to them sucking on Load, I have to disagree. It's probably my favourite album of theirs, although I have to admit I love all of them!

The "new" sound doesn't suit them though. The comment about Lars switiching to playing binlids is very true. There's just no feeling in the rhythm any more.

[maartendc]

Yeah, they are better live than on cd.
The live version of their new song 'frantic' was fantastic, while the album version is just ok.

And about them changing their style: You have to change your style once in a while. If you don't, you get stuck in the same cycle of songs, and it becomes hard to find good songs that differ from the old ones enough.

There are a lot of bands who change their style once in every while. Radiohead for example. They started out as a hard-rock band, and now they make very quiet songs... There will allways be fans who are disapointed about these changes, but they will also get new fans...

[nasrules]

Yeah, I particularly agree about 'Frantic'. Hetfield really got into it and amazingly Kirk joined in with the singing!

I know what you mean about style-changing. I think the problem is that they have become slightly Nu-Metal-ish, thus looking as though they are only going with current popularity.

[TheIceMan]

They are sooo 80's boring unoriginal.

[TipYourBartender]

All bands inevitably change their styles. What bothers me about Metallica is that their style change stemmed not from organic growth; rather, they changed their sound in an obvious attempt to make themselves more amenable to radio airplay and mass-market appeal.

There's no better example of this than St. Anger. It's obviously done with a nod towrds the current wave of nu-metal, specifically SOAD. That doesn't mean all the songs are bad; I actually thought St. Anger was allright. But the fact remains that they are trying first and foremost to stay on the radio instead of just being Mettalica, damnit!

[nasrules]

Originally posted by TipYourBartender
All bands inevitably change their styles. What bothers me about Metallica is that their style change stemmed not from organic growth; rather, they changed their sound in an obvious attempt to make themselves more amenable to radio airplay and mass-market appeal.

There's no better example of this than St. Anger. It's obviously done with a nod towrds the current wave of nu-metal, specifically SOAD. That doesn't mean all the songs are bad; I actually thought St. Anger was allright. But the fact remains that they are trying first and foremost to stay on the radio instead of just being Mettalica, damnit!

That's exactly how I feel. And, now I think about it, their new similarity to SOAD is very obvious! The "pounding" riffs going into soft, rhythmic, vocal parts.

[vipp]

I have nothing against them, I just don't care much for their music.

[Lamourlady]

Originally posted by TipYourBartender
All bands inevitably change their styles. What bothers me about Metallica is that their style change stemmed not from organic growth; rather, they changed their sound in an obvious attempt to make themselves more amenable to radio airplay and mass-market appeal.

There's no better example of this than St. Anger. It's obviously done with a nod towrds the current wave of nu-metal, specifically SOAD. That doesn't mean all the songs are bad; I actually thought St. Anger was allright. But the fact remains that they are trying first and foremost to stay on the radio instead of just being Mettalica, damnit!

thank you.
that is what i was trying to say.
but u said it so much better!
;)

[Power Penguin]

Metallica
“If they want to steal Metalllica’s music, instead of hiding behind their computers in their bedrooms and dorm rooms, they should go down to Tower Records and grab them off the shelves”

That's what. They are mini Hitlers with good musicianship skills.

[CTC Command]

What I have against Metallica is that they have nothing they really stand for or stand by. Except their bank accounts. At one time they were cutting edge, first as one of the earliest spped and thrash bands (ne Metal Up Your Fucking Ass, Seek And Destroy) then mixing speed and thrash with classical guitar (best example song Master Of Puppets). Then "...And Justice For All" exapnded on the classical themes with some real pretty 12 string guitar work and meticulous spped metal, but alas, the boys in the band discovered the sweet smell of commercial success. Everything they have done since has been to consious effort recreate the commercial success of "Justice." Each album since has taken them further from what they were until they have become caricatures of an actual band. The BS over Napster and filesharing is just the icing on the cake. They piss all over their roots, those tiny-brained wipers of other people's bottoms. Metallica can blow me.

[SouthernWoman]

My biggest problem with Metallica is the hypocrisy....they are a band whose original fan base was generated by bootlegs being passed around in the early, early days of their career. And Lars has the nerve to criticize bootlegging now? ...sheesh!...

Just my opinion...don't jump me for it. :)

Oh, and I like their early music...but I ain't paying for it.

[CTC Command]

Originally posted by SouthernWoman
My biggest problem with Metallica is the hypocrisy....they are a band whose original fan base was generated by bootlegs being passed around in the early, early days of their career. And Lars has the nerve to criticize bootlegging now? ...sheesh!...

Just my opinion...don't jump me for it. :)

Oh, and I like their early music...but I ain't paying for it.

Yeah--they even went so far as to copy the Dead and have "taper's sections" at their shows. The resemblance of Metallica to the Dead begins and ends there--those bastards aren't Grateful for anything. Probably trying to bust anyone trading mp3's of these 'legally recorded shows.' Hypocritilica would be a better name for the two remaining original members...

And don't worry SW, we won't jump you for having a valid opinion...and we give out backrubs before any jumping on begins in earnest, so you'll have plenty of fair warning, lol.

[rocker1201]

hey ctc command, it's me rockr2003. i got banned ........

vastly editted by cp

and will be again.

[rainbowdemon]

vastly editted by cp First official act as a mod? Just kidding! I got to see that post before you edited it. We don't need boneheads like that here!

[rocker1201]

your the fucking boneheads... nothing better to do all day than worry if the RIAA is coming after you. I just came in to tell ctc command and all the other metallibashers to fuck off one more time. what, you're not smart enough to ban this username?

[cheapprick]

sigh