EMule/EDonkey, Do you use it just to be cool?

[DrWho]

So as I have been recently sucked back into the P2P networks and trying many different programs for a few weeks now, I am finding nothing at all special about the EMule/EDonkey network.

I keep going back to WinMX.

WinMX allows me to share my files.

EMule has yet to let me share a file that I was not already downloading anyway. What is up with that?

Set your files for RELEASE. No difference that I have seen yet.

Get a HighID. Got it, not difference. Use credits, no difference, as I rarely DL and just trying to UL my boots.

Searching, next to terrible on EMule.

For example:

Emule: XYZ- Live - 4 Matches.

WinMX: XYZ- Live - 300+ Matches - Killed it

Video and Software - Again WinMX out performs by far.
Used a popular program for Photos as a test.

Also did a very popular search for MP3s by a certain blonde singing female, 6 results on EMule, 300+ on WinMX, again.

Sitting behind a firewall? No problem for WinMX and it's secondary connection type. EMule, issues and always a LowID.

Can some download from me on EMule while I am behind a firewall? Don't know, have yet to see a UL from me to a user while behind a firewall.

ULs on WInMX, not a problem, the Secondary connection takes care of it easily.

Not to say WinMX is at all perfect, but it is far more useful, functional and easier.

Leechers on WinMX? Could give a rats ass, cause if I am looking for a song I can get it. It may take a coulple times to instigate a DL, but I won't be waiting for days for the file to complete. I get to listen to that song that day.

SO what gives?

Is EMule/EDonkey crap as I think they are, or am I missing something??

Is it just a cool thing for some to use to show off??

Let me know, please.

[Jelsoft]

For example:

Emule: XYZ- 4 Matches.

WinMX: XYZ - Live - 300+ Matches - Killed it

Also did a very popular search for MP3s by a certain blonde singing female, 6 results on EMule, 300+ on WinMX, again.


Your using emule to search for the wrong type of files.

emule was not design for trading of small 5MB MP3 files, but trading of very large files (600 MB+).

[ozamosi]

i sat for 68 hours nonstop trying to download one movie. there were like 100 sources, and uploaded it to lots of people while downloading, so it was pretty popular. it didnt finnish.

[Jelsoft]

Originally posted by ozamosi
i sat for 68 hours nonstop trying to download one movie. there were like 100 sources, and uploaded it to lots of people while downloading, so it was pretty popular. it didnt finnish.

Why would you sit and watch the movie download? It's like waiting for a kettle to boil.

Just let emule run and continue on with your tasks in life.

emule may not be fast, but it will get you what you want.

[DrWho]

"emule was not design for trading of small 5MB MP3 files, but trading of very large files (600 MB+)."

I can understand that somewhat.

My files, MP3s are all done in 320bit, and can go over 80MBs in a lot of cases.

On a search for a large file though, I get more in WInMX, say a movie about a Ring and a Hobbit.

And though there is this so called Horde, I don't see any use of it whatsever in any of my DL's, or when I contribute to a UL for another user.

WinMX has the same type of Horde system, but it allows for downloading from multiple users. So what's so good about Horde is beyond me.

Well, that's my opinion, edonkey and emule are teh Suck, and I just don't see the point in using them at all when there are other more reliable programs out there.

[Jelsoft]

Originally posted by DrWho
"emule was not design for trading of small 5MB MP3 files, but trading of very large files (600 MB+)."

I can understand that somewhat.

My files, MP3s are all done in 320bit, and can go over 80MBs in a lot of cases.

On a search for a large file though, I get more in WInMX, say a movie about a Ring and a Hobbit.

And though there is this so called Horde, I don't see any use of it whatsever in any of my DL's, or when I contribute to a UL for another user.

WinMX has the same type of Horde system, but it allows for downloading from multiple users. So what's so good about Horde is beyond me.

Well, that's my opinion, edonkey and emule are teh Suck, and I just don't see the point in using them at all when there are other more reliable programs out there.

Well that's your choice.

I have used Winmx and the queues are very long. The queues are worst than emule's queues.

When I try and download a movie from Winmx, the user will sometimes log off in the middle of the download and I can't find another user with the same file.

emule and Winmx is different on how files are shared. emule generates a unique hash ID for each file.

You may get only few files from the search results from emule, but one file may have 50 sources behind that file.

[DrWho]

"emule and Winmx is different on how files are shared. emule generates a unique hash ID for each file. "

The hash is fine, if you get a good file to begin with.

Other then that I don't see any use for it, Care to explain a bit as to it's usefulness?

[evilmegaman]

eMule is very horrible at searching. your best bet is to not use the search in eMule, but use the search on jigle.com, or filedonkey.com . it works much better that way.

[DrWho]

Ok, then I will try some more hashing later and see if I can get better results. Thanks for the info.

[ATLien]

Originally posted by ozamosi
i sat for 68 hours nonstop trying to download one movie. there were like 100 sources, and uploaded it to lots of people while downloading, so it was pretty popular. it didnt finnish.

Holy Shit! Talking about "Intestinal Fortitude!"

[begoodbebad]

there are people out there who don't watch their files download? Fukkin hippies.

[zaphodiv]

>EMule has yet to let me share a file that I was not already downloading anyway.
>What is up with that?
You are using it incorrectly. Just set the folders you want to share in the preferances.

[pacificstate]

Using hashes in emule / edonkey is one of the best things to happen to p2p next to sig2dat, kazaa uses. tons of users sharing one file named all differently, no problem..

Speed varies pretty much, that's true, but the number of movies available is enormous, not just new releases even older ones are available over a long period of time.

If you are into music (320kbps-too much anyway) try another p2p like soulseek...

[DrWho]

First, I am sharing files correctly, I just can't get my new files out there it seems.

But I have no prob ULing the more popular files.

Ok, I was harsh on eMule, cause WinMX likes to re-boot my computer anyway.

I ran eMule over night and it did not crash, v0.29.

I think I am just frustrated with some of the P2P programs out there in general.

I am going to keep using eMule though.

I do sit there and watch Dls'. For a couple of reasons.
1) to make sure my BandWidth Numbers are good, then I experiment to see if I can iincrease my UL speed to users.

2) With WinMX, I found that if I ran IE and browsed while users were DLing from me, they was get better speeds. Not just better but beyond belief speeds from me.

Without me Borwsing WinMX would UPLOAD files to user at like 5kb/s. When I started browsing, UPLOAD speeds would go as high as 100 K/bs. With many jumping well over 40kb/s.

Stop surfing and WinMX would drop back down to 5 kb/s or so.

What crap.

EMule, I did the same trick as I did with WinMX, and did not see any difference. Though my MAX UPLOAD speed to users, regardless of the number of folks DLing from me, rarely got over 30k/bs. But that's a lot better then WInMX.

I have taken my new files and put RELEASE on them, but people just can't seem to hit those files, I am pretty sure they would want them.

Anyway, I am continuing to experiment.

No offense emule users, I may be converted, if I go home and it's still running, which apparenlty it is, as far as I can tell from another internet connection.

[Jelsoft]

Originally posted by DrWho
I have taken my new files and put RELEASE on them, but people just can't seem to hit those files, I am pretty sure they would want them.


From the looks of it your files have unique hash IDs that are different from the other files of the same type.

For example:

You might release a file called abc.mp3 with a hash ID like A0000000001.

But there might be another file called abc.mp3 with a hash ID like B0000000002.

Now what is important is how many people who have the same hash file ID.

If there are 50 people with a hash file ID of B0000000002 compared to one person with a hash file ID of A0000000001, more people will likely download from the people with more sources which is hash file ID of B0000000002.

The reason for this is because there are more sources available for hash file ID of B0000000002 and it's likely to be a fake file.

Just to like you know sharing unique hash file IDs is not a bad thing. From what I read emule reward the users who share rare files.

[Carcinogen]

I love the edonkey network, as I like to collect rare movies. You can't even find any of them on any other network.

[ozamosi]

Originally posted by Jelsoft
Why would you sit and watch the movie download? It's like waiting for a kettle to boil.

Just let emule run and continue on with your tasks in life.

emule may not be fast, but it will get you what you want.

I didnt mean i was waching, but im a modem user, and i was at this lan that had 1 gbit internet, and you could download at about 1 mbps, but emule downloaded at about 3 kbps. unfortunatly, i didnt find it on any other network. emule has the files, but i wish you could get them to!

[Theinfamousone]

Well, let me just say that if you think Winmx is a good network, try Kazaalite!! Popular movies fly like none other. And it has a huge selection on mp3s (yes even high quality ones).

[nasrules]

1. eDonkey has VERY high quality files.
2. The eDonkey system has a very dodgy logic. You have to upload a ton of stuff before you can get anything like the speeds you want.
3. eDonkey + Search = Bad! Go to ShareReactor (http://www.sharereactor.com), ShareLive! (http://www.sharelive.com), Jigle (http://www.jigle.com) or FileDonkey (http://www.filedonkey.com) to find verified files that download with a simple click of a link.
4. If you were on your Dial-Up, those speeds were a software glitch. The maximum bandwidth that a 56k modem can physically use is 7kbps, I think for both up and down combined.

[witmann]

maybee his uploads were at Bytes/S and not kilobytes/S....

[DainBramaged]

Valid points. The fact of the matter is, you can probably get anything you want, anywhere you want, if you look hard and are patient enough.

The eDonkey network was created in the interest of sharing large files much more quickly than other networks. In my opinion, it works. While you personally will not complete the DL as quickly as on Kazaa, in the end, the sum of users who have a completed DL will be much larger than Kazaa considering the file size.

As well, hashing is more or less of benefit. Yes, there can be popular files that are fakes. More often than not, the good files are the ones with the most sources. Overall, the amount of fake files is extremely low.

Not only will you get what you want, but it is often of very high quality. Most DVD rips, screeners, and advance copies are of high caliber. Software and games often come with patches, keygens, and other notes included.

eDonkey is a good thing.

[Carcinogen]

That's why you use a site with verified files.

[PowerMan57two]

Yes I don't find anything that great about them either. I tried them, but I can never find the file I want with all those backed up queues

[Cunning Linguist]

I think eMule/eDonkey is for people who have cabel or DSL, who let there pc just stand there, downloading 24/7. I put tons of stuff on download, and it might take forever to get it, but when I do get it, its always a good copy, and never a fake file. And therer is the part that I never get rude msg on the e2k network from other users.

[PowerMan57two]

Originally posted by Cunning Linguist
I think eMule/eDonkey is for people who have cabel or DSL, who let there pc just stand there, downloading 24/7. I put tons of stuff on download, and it might take forever to get it, but when I do get it, its always a good copy, and never a fake file. And therer is the part that I never get rude msg on the e2k network from other users.
i would have to agree. I just downloaded the program last night to try the new versions. and it took forever to get the file and i'm on satellite. it only went like 2-8kb/sec my god it took very long time. and when it completed it disappeared off my computer! oh well I will try one more time.

[Carcinogen]

It might take a week or a month to download a file, but it's probably the only place you can get that file.