windows media player drm cracked

[Tremaine]

The DRM in windows media player has been cracked if you havent heard yet, you can download it with bittorrent get the torrent link from supernova....

[dubstylee]

has anyone got this to work? I d/l'd it, but there is no instructions and I havent gotten it to work on anything.

[Krell]

I saw this last week, my question is . . can you PROVE that it works.



It's time for me to redo O/S's anyway, so I will work on it.


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[method77]

it was about time! Did they really believe that this would stop sharing?

[Lamourlady]

Originally posted by method77
it was about time! Did they really believe that this would stop sharing?

yes, but they're tards!!!!!!
it will be the same for anything they can dream up.
muuuwhhaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!

[isus]

wmp drm? where do you get files like that?

[Malakai1911]

Originally posted by PiRaNeTuS
When has drm become an issue? All of my files play perfectly. To whom has this been a problem to?

Not me. But just in case, its not a bad thing to have.

[ATLien]

Originally posted by Tremaine
The DRM in windows media player has been cracked if you havent heard yet, you can download it with bittorrent get the torrent link from supernova....

For some reason, i have d/l two versions of this "Cracked" WMP.
I have an 8 meg and a 10 meg version, but i don't see the difference between the two. Is there a difference?

[ATLien]

Originally posted by Dealie
Drm files are very rare as far as i've seen so far.. I've only run across maybe a dozen in the last 6 months or so.

And theres always a way to play them anyways... Even things like winamp ignores drm so far. I dont expect it to be that way forever tho. Given who made winamp.

The only real problem was with wmp9 ect.. And its not really a major problem to begin with.


Just a bit of trivial garbage more or less. Its more about that it HAS been cracked. And not that it NEEDS to be.

Aight!

[streamOG]

um no Winamp does not ignore DRM and I want ot see someone play this file using the hacked player. Get me a video of you playing it our output it to AVI and post it.

Let's see it.

[Ne007]

WTF is DRM....can't do a search on it.

[overdo]

DRM - Digital Rights Management. basically a solution to digital piracy which involves placing restrictions on file types, mainly multimedia or documents. this can be in the form of artists letting u listen to music a certain number of times or until a certain date. this can also stop sharing of these files on p2p networks.

as for the thread itself, i haven't come across one DRM file since i used realplayer. and that is quite a while ago.

[streamOG]

The DRM in Windows Media Player 9 has not bee cracked as previously posted here on ZeroPaid. In fact the .rar file circulating in Bit Torrent was just the Windows Media Player 9 install without the DRM libraries.

If you try to use this player on an XP machine you will get an error if it's your first time installing WMP9.

You CANNOT access DRM'd content with this player without a valid license from the Content Provider's License Server.

Sure there's more to come on this thread.

[notbob]

wmp9 without drm--if that isn't beyond pointless i don't know what is

[psychotronic420]

Here's a thought - Stop using WMP and encoding music to .wma. There are plenty of other (better) options that are available.

[streamOG]

don't use the world's #1 file format. That would be silly.

[Theinfamousone]

I downloaded a file on Kazaa that was DRMd. I actually tried to get a license for it (I don't know what I was thinking) but it said that it couldn't get a license for it. So I'd like to convert that to divx if anyone finds a way to do it. I know that Azo-999 hacked DRM using Ultra Edit, so I imagine that it's possible, but as every other person in this thread has pointed out, there's no reason to worry about DRM in WMP 99% of the time because who is going to be illegally ripping DVDs and CDs etc and putting their own restrictions on it?

[djalibi]

anyone know how to make pcdj tracks play on other players?
or make them bun-able?,

[djalibi]

BURN ABLE, I MEAN, HAHA,

[streamOG]

Hey TheInfamousOne you said that: "I know that Azo-999 hacked DRM using Ultra Edit"

Can you explain or prove this or can he/she/they?

[notbob]

Originally posted by streamOG
don't use the world's #1 file format. That would be silly.

#1 where?

90% of music i see is mp3, 90% of movies are mpg or avi

i see very few encoded to wm(x) and i have never seen a drm'ed one

even the most basic kazaa user knows to look for mp3 and avi

[grab]

Originally posted by streamOG
don't use the world's #1 file format. That would be silly.

What is your justification for this remark?

Tests consistently show WMA to be a poor codec at mid to high bit rates (it is good at low bit rates <128kbs)) .

For example this blind test (http://ff123.net/dogies/dogies_plots.html) conducted by 16 audiophiles shows WMA performing extremely poorly. It comes out behind AAC, MPC, OGG and lame encoded mp3.

As if this werent bad enough wma is extremely proprietary and has very poor software and hardware mp3 player support.

Even without the drm issues this would be enough reason not to use wma.

[Theinfamousone]

Originally posted by grab
What is your justification for this remark?

Tests consistently show WMA to be a poor codec at mid to high bit rates (it is good at low bit rates <128kbs)) .

For example this blind test (http://ff123.net/dogies/dogies_plots.html) conducted by 16 audiophiles shows WMA performing extremely poorly. It comes out behind AAC, MPC, OGG and lame encoded mp3.

As if this werent bad enough wma is extremely proprietary and has very poor software and hardware mp3 player support.

Even without the drm issues this would be enough reason not to use wma.

I think that's a joke, I don't care who you are, human ears can't decern like that.

[Malakai1911]

@infamous - Maybe you have a tin ear...

Actually, Im not going to argue. Your "most people" argument is flawed.

YOUR OPINION cannot speak for "most people". But a double blind test IS A GOOD INDICATOR.

- kai

[streamOG]

What is your justification for this remark?

Because it is. More WindowsMedia is moved around the web in a day than QuickTime, RealMedia and MP3 to boot. FACT.



Tests consistently show WMA to be a poor codec at mid to high bit rates (it is good at low bit rates <128kbs)) .

For example this blind test conducted by 16 audiophiles shows WMA performing extremely poorly. It comes out behind AAC, MPC, OGG and lame encoded mp3.

Thats one test. There are others that prove the contrary. I am going to email the head of CODEC development at MS and see if he will chime in on this thread.



As if this werent bad enough wma is extremely proprietary and has very poor software and hardware mp3 player support.

It does? Um there is the WMP and MusicMatch and several other playback software platforms out there and actually there are more BRAND NAME devices that support WMA than MP3. You do know there are DVD's that play WMV that were out a year before the DivX ones right?


Even without the drm issues this would be enough reason not to use wma.

Ok. well that's your opinion. Your entitled to it for sure.

NotBob:

#1 where?

as in your machine where. As in there was a WMA player on it BEFORE there was an MP3 player on it.


90% of music i see is mp3, 90% of movies are mpg or avi

90% of the music you steal and see is mp3. that doesn't mean 905 of the music in the world is mp3. MPG and AVI are too big. WMV wins out on quality and size everytime.



i see very few encoded to wm(x) and i have never seen a drm'ed one

thats ok Bob. AltNet does 1M DRM licenses a month. "They are out there."


even the most basic kazaa user knows to look for mp3 and avi

but why would they?

[notbob]

Originally posted by streamOG

#1 where?

as in your machine where. As in there was a WMA player on it BEFORE there was an MP3 player on it.

wmp2, 7, 8 ,9, etc all play mp3 and mpg and avi so that argument is just plain stupid (in fact, 7 and 8 encode mp3 files with a little wrangling, not that i'd ever use the godawful trash)


90% of music i see is mp3, 90% of movies are mpg or avi

90% of the music you steal and see is mp3. that doesn't mean 905 of the music in the world is mp3. MPG and AVI are too big. WMV wins out on quality and size everytime.
if i can't access it, does it really exist? (sort of like the old saying: "if a tree falls in the woods and crushes bill gates, but nobody sees it, do i really care?")




i see very few encoded to wm(x) and i have never seen a drm'ed one

thats ok Bob. AltNet does 1M DRM licenses a month. "They are out there."


even the most basic kazaa user knows to look for mp3 and avi

but why would they?

there are entire p2p systems based on mp3 (blubster comes to mind) that deal in mp3 exclusively--if wma is so hot where are the users? i have never even seen so much as a dc hub devoted to wm(x)

in fact they are reviled in any place where at least 2 people with half a brain congregate

selling licenses is one thing--selling files is another thing altogether

keep on pimping big fella

[grab]

Originally posted by streamOG
What is your justification for this remark?

Because it is. More WindowsMedia is moved around the web in a day than QuickTime, RealMedia and MP3 to boot. FACT.


You're talking about streaming audio here. Maybe more wma is streamed than realaudio, maybe its not. Quite honestly i couldnt care. Streaming audio is low bit-rate audio which is poor in quality and forms only a tiny fraction of audio on peoples PCs.




Thats one test. There are others that prove the contrary. I am going to email the head of CODEC development at MS and see if he will chime in on this thread.

One test, but statistically speaking a very comprehensive one. You cant have 16 people unanimously rate wma far lower than other codecs purely by chance.

I have seen plenty other codec comparisons which show similar results, and none which show wma to be a superior codec at mid to high bit rates (i have already conceded that wma is good at low bit rates, although even then probably not as good as mp3pro)




It does? Um there is the WMP and MusicMatch and several other playback software platforms out there and actually there are more BRAND NAME devices that support WMA than MP3. You do know there are DVD's that play WMV that were out a year before the DivX ones right?

Sure musicmatch and WMP support wma, as does winamp. There are a number of p2p apps e.g kazaa piolet, which have no wma support whatsoever. Few burners support wma , nero only via a plug-in, others not at all. Many rippers dont support wma. I can think of countless other useful pieces of software (taggers, media libraries) which have no wma support.

Im not sure why you mention wmv, i was talking only about wma.

[grab]

Originally posted by Theinfamousone
I think that's a joke, I don't care who you are, human ears can't decern like that.


I suggest you either

a) purchase decent speakers and sound card

or

b) take a hearing test.

perhaps both.

Did you actually look at the results? Scroll to thevery bottom of the page i linked to and look for yourself. Every single one of the 16 blind testers ranked MPC and AAC higher than WMA in almost every instance. It is statistically practically impossible for this to arise by chance, and makes it abundantly clear that WMA is far from being a leading codec at middle bit rates.

[Theinfamousone]

I have the best PC speakers available. It's just that I don't think someone can decide which is "better" quality.

[Malakai1911]

Well, then maybe everyone should buy VHS instead of DVD. I mean, there is no way they will be able to tell the difference, right?

Same goes with hearing, as far as I'm concerned.

WMA sucks, Ogg Vorbis rules, MP3 is the current standard. Oh well.

[grab]

Originally posted by Theinfamousone
I have the best PC speakers available. It's just that I don't think someone can decide which is "better" quality.

So, in your opinion there is no such thing as varying degrees of audio quality, and all music sounds the same regardless of codec, bit rate etc. Is this what you are saying? because thats what it sounds like

[streamOG]

Thats like saying yeah at 55 a Yugo Runs Better than a Ferrari.

WHO CARES? I don't. I want the best quality I can get and that leaves WMA FAR AHEAD OF THE PACK guys.

Look what is the highest bit rate MP3 you can encode?

How many Channels?

I think that it would be a good for all on this thread to check this demo out and post your HONEST feedback.

No "I hate MS" or "I hate streamOG" tangents ok?

http://windowsmedia.com/9series/DemoCenter/AudioQuality.asp?page=6&lookup=AudioQuality#

[Krell]

I hate San Diego

dunno why.

The subject is whether or not WMP has a cracked DRM

If you want to scorchie the audio quality to death, make a new thread.

[triniti]

I agreed with streamOG, windows media 9 does have better sound and is 5.1 compliant. p.s. DRM has NOT been cracked!

[notbob]

Originally posted by streamOG
Thats like saying yeah at 55 a Yugo Runs Better than a Ferrari.

WHO CARES? I don't. I want the best quality I can get and that leaves WMA FAR AHEAD OF THE PACK guys.

Look what is the highest bit rate MP3 you can encode?

How many Channels?

I think that it would be a good for all on this thread to check this demo out and post your HONEST feedback.

No "I hate MS" or "I hate streamOG" tangents ok?

http://windowsmedia.com/9series/DemoCenter/AudioQuality.asp?page=6&lookup=AudioQuality# i'd love to, but they only accept IE as a browser

not like MS doesn't pay "scientists" to do studies to say what they want them to

http://theregister.co.uk/content/53/31014.html

[grab]

Originally posted by streamOG
Thats like saying yeah at 55 a Yugo Runs Better than a Ferrari.

WHO CARES? I don't. I want the best quality I can get and that leaves WMA FAR AHEAD OF THE PACK guys.

Look what is the highest bit rate MP3 you can encode?

How many Channels?

I think that it would be a good for all on this thread to check this demo out and post your HONEST feedback.

No "I hate MS" or "I hate streamOG" tangents ok?

http://windowsmedia.com/9series/DemoCenter/AudioQuality.asp?page=6&lookup=AudioQuality#

wma may have more potential than OGG, but its completely untested at higher bitrates.Also there are a whole bunch of other codecs which are superior to BOTH wma and mp3 (MPC, AAC, and possibly OGG) And like notbob, i dont use IE so i cant access that audio sample.

Your car analogy is also completely wrong because you cant assume that higher bit rate means better quality per se. Often it does, but not always. MPC for example is well known for being transparent at middle bit rates in many cases.

[streamOG]

notbob it's a listening test. No scientists. They provide the glassmaster WAV and the MP3 and WMA files. Its a listening test for you to respond to.

Also Grab that's not true. In fact it's completely wrong. WMA

6 ch x 48KHz x 24bits DTS 5.1 @ 1,536Kbps WMA Pro @ 768Kbps 2:1

what will Ogg Vorbis or MP3 do? I don't know.

sometimes I think you guys just like to bust my chops.

[Theinfamousone]

Originally posted by grab
So, in your opinion there is no such thing as varying degrees of audio quality, and all music sounds the same regardless of codec, bit rate etc. Is this what you are saying? because thats what it sounds like

Obviously there are differences in quality between bitrates and codecs, but how "good" the music sounds is pretty subjective. Seeing an actual sound oscillation diagram etc would be more useful. But I see what you're saying.

[zaphodiv]

In fact the .rar file circulatin>g in Bit Torrent was just the Windows Media Player 9 install without the DRM libraries.

I'v just got around to trying this out and I'v come to the same conclusion. It dosn't play protected files. Useless.

[WRFan]

Why are we even talking about this? drm is not a problem, because there are only a few protected files out there, and there are always alternative unprotected files. I mean, who of you has actually ever downloaded protected files? I've downloaded tons of music files from several p2p networks, and they all are unprotected. where are the wma /wmv files on fasttrack? who has been lucky enough to find one? I've seen maybe 10 wmas in the last year on kazaa, and maybe 2 wmv files.

about the discussion whether wma or mp3 is better: some of you above said that wma is worse, because there are hardly any wmas on kazaa, but this means nothing. after all, there are hardly any ogg files on fasttrack, but it doesn't mean that ogg is worse than mp3. it just means that people are unwilling to switch to another format. in fact, wma is much better than mp3, but the point is simply, it doesn't matter, because at 320 kb/s quality is not an issue any longer. and I think we all have enough bandwidth and harddisk space to download only high bitrate files. who cares whether 96 kb mp3 sounds better than an 96 kb wma or ogg file? I don't even download low bitrate files. And don't tell me that you can notice quality differences between a 320 kb mp3 file and a 320 kb wma or ogg file, at such high bitrate all files sound the same.

and anyway, I prefer wav files, uncompressed format, perfect quality, hardly any hardisk space loss, so the whole discussion is pointless. dump mp3, ogg and wma into the recycling bin, because with today's harddisks size doesn't matter.