Best Computer

[Allis]

Hi

What's your best computer?


I've put all 4 different ones on my poll, and my personal rating.

VOTE NOW

[isus]

you know i hafta vote for apple.

monday... monday... monday...

(i also loved the rubbish thing... how original. ms, the best? haha.......)

[cheapprick]

I think Mac has this one cased.










You know, because it's the only computer listed.

[rainbowdemon]

I have a Dell Dimension 4300S. I don't know if this is the best or the worst. It's the only one I've ever had. But I like it.

[isus]

Originally posted by cheapprick
I think Mac has this one cased.










You know, because it's the only computer listed.

hahahahahaha... yea, i just thought about that too. shows the brains of all the people who voted for microsoft as the best computer. way to go!

[Lord Dante]

Nintendo Powaaaaaa :cross

[hawkburn]

Mac has the best power.... none of the others are "Computers" Microsoft is a software company, not a computer manufacturer, you could say PC...? Nintendo and Sega? Nintendo is on the way out with that piece of sh!t system they put out. Sega - havent heard much from them since Dreamcast was no more.

Now that I think about it, maybe he meant Microsoft, as in XBox, because, technically, XBox is a computer, its got everything but a good operating system, and an Open Source Linux project is coming or has come out for modded XBoxes I believe.

[method77]

Nintendo? Sega?


huh?

[mojo-ris-in]

The MITS Altair 8800 Computer
Introduced: January 1975
Price at Introduction: $395.00
Standard Memory: 256 bytes

You know what they say your 1st is always your best

[dubstylee]

I am dumber having read this thread.

[Krell]

Then get smarter and work on the servers . . . . . and the network

[mojo-ris-in]

Originally posted by dubstylee
I am dumber having read this thread.

Ha HA HA um Yeah

[hawkburn]

our first computer was a packard bell, 8 MB RAM, and my dad was a big geek, me being 5 at the time and knowing nothing, but he knowing that things will get bigger. Anyway, he got the HUGE hard drive that cost an extra 1000 bucks, it was twice the size, a whopping 500 MB.

Came with, well, came with something Microsoft I know before 95, because I remember going to the warehouse and them having truckloads of Crapdows 95 in big neatly stacked displays.

Still use that computer, AOL 3 and lower compatible! Has a 14.4 modem, everything you need. :mellow

No I have a nice one, still wish I could get a Mac.. :wings

[CCSDUDE]

Originally posted by dubstylee
I am dumber having read this thread.

Ditto......

[BloodStraw]

"Microsoft (THE BEST!!!)" lol wtf?

[matt merch]

when did microsoft start making pcs ? i thought they were a software company hence the name microSOFT

[cpugeniusmv]

com·put·er
n.

[list=1]
A device that computes, especially a programmable electronic machine that performs high-speed mathematical or logical operations or that assembles, stores, correlates, or otherwise processes information.
One who computes.
[/list=1]

[maartendc]

Yeah I love my billy box!

But this thread is dumb.
Nintendo and sega are gaming-consoles, while pc's and macs are personal com^puters... DUMB

Why don't you change it.
put clone pc's, macs, dells, hp/compaq's in there
or put microsoft (for xbox), sega, nintendo and sony (for playstation) in there...

[Ken17625]

I am dumber having read this thread.

I award you no points. May the lord have mercy on your soul.



--"Billy Madison"

[rainbowdemon]

You know what they say your 1st is always your best Does that apply to computers also? lol:fire

[beardedwonder]

Now where's that most useless poll thread!

PS: Macintoshes suck ass, long live the IBM PC compatible :fire

[maartendc]

Amen to that brother! Amen to that!

[begoodbebad]

The best computer is the one that costs just slightly more money than you actually have. This computer can do things so much more quickly than your current machine. It is easier to use and more reliable. It even has a nicer case, a quieter fan and more and better connectors. It comes in a choice of colours. It has a hard drive so big you can keep downloading forever. It has a CPU with numbers so big you are not even sure how many zeros you need to write it out. It has more RAM than you ever saw. You dream of simultaneously playing Vice City while in the background it compresses a DVD to DivX, processes a huge batch of files in Photoshop, runs emule and kazaalite, and spits out another hot off the press CD-R of anyone except Metallica or Britney. You think about this computer more and more whenever your machine seems a little slow or old fashioned. You can't quite afford it which is a shame as by the time you have the money it will have been replaced by something slightly better which costs just a little more.

[Malakai1911]

Note to mod: Please delete this post.


I am the third or fourth person feeling dumberer having read this thread :)

[triniti]

DELL or Gateway, and since when was Microsoft a computer? God forbid they try to make one.:devil

[FrozenShadow23]

Personally, I voted for microsoft. Not because I believed that they were an actual computer brand, but because I assumed that by microsoft, PC was intended (IBM or compatable). I do realize that mac has many strong points, but PC has more. Thats my opinion. :mellow

[maartendc]

Originally posted by begoodbebad
The best computer is the one that costs just slightly more money than you actually have. This computer can do things so much more quickly than your current machine. It is easier to use and more reliable. It even has a nicer case, a quieter fan and more and better connectors. It comes in a choice of colours. It has a hard drive so big you can keep downloading forever. It has a CPU with numbers so big you are not even sure how many zeros you need to write it out. It has more RAM than you ever saw. You dream of simultaneously playing Vice City while in the background it compresses a DVD to DivX, processes a huge batch of files in Photoshop, runs emule and kazaalite, and spits out another hot off the press CD-R of anyone except Metallica or Britney. You think about this computer more and more whenever your machine seems a little slow or old fashioned. You can't quite afford it which is a shame as by the time you have the money it will have been replaced by something slightly better which costs just a little more.

wow, nice post

[isus]

this whole thread might as well just be closed now, bc apple has released the g5, and it whoops intel's xeon (the lowest g5, vs. dual xeons) and the p4.

haha...

[CCSDUDE]

Originally posted by isus
this whole thread might as well just be closed now, bc apple has released the g5, and it whoops intel's xeon (the lowest g5, vs. dual xeons) and the p4.

haha...

Hmmm lets see....you can't compare the two. Why, you ask? Because IBM PC is cross platform...IE unix/linux/windows and a number of other OS's such as BSD.

OSX is probably tweaked to it's own CPU making it more efficient opposed to an IBM PC compatible system which has many OS's all of which aren't fully 'locked' into an OS (cycles not being used by all OS's the same and not fully using the sysems resources).

Plus theres no chance in hell any Motorola CPU could kick a dual Xeon system with the proper software IE stuff that could use the second CPU and use it well. Besides if OSX and mac software can take advantage of dual CPU's then you'd have to compare that with dual PC compatible cpu's along with software and an OS that could handle them to be fair.

You don't even OWN a Mac yet...sure you've used them, but once you actually spend YOUR hard earned cash on one...you'll be kicking yourself when flies are zippin' outta yer pockets... :devil

[isus]

Originally posted by CCSDUDE
Plus theres no chance in hell any Motorola CPU could kick a dual Xeon system with the proper software IE stuff that could use the second CPU and use it well. Besides if OSX and mac software can take advantage of dual CPU's then you'd have to compare that with dual PC compatible cpu's along with software and an OS that could handle them to be fair.

You don't even OWN a Mac yet...sure you've used them, but once you actually spend YOUR hard earned cash on one...you'll be kicking yourself when flies are zippin' outta yer pockets... :devil

motorola didn't make the g5... ibm did. it's the powerpc 970, a server cpu...

and no, i won't be kicking myself... you must think that apple's hardware has degraded from the g3 to the g5... the ibook has a g3. a 500mhz g3. i think i'll be patting myself on the back when i have a pbook with a g5 inside.

(i missed my flame face dude too... sry... here he is :devil)

[witmann]

The hell with those stupid prebuilt PCs (unless ints an Alienware)
Custom all the way!
I want to actually KNOW what is inside, which is best acheived by building it yourself!

[Celtic Fox]

you forgot to put Atari and Pico in the poll:shy

[Malakai1911]

Originally posted by isus
this whole thread might as well just be closed now, bc apple has released the g5, and it whoops intel's xeon (the lowest g5, vs. dual xeons) and the p4.

haha...

Ah, how easily we forget the 4 way Opteron.

http://athlonmb.com/images/4wayopteron/first/sisoft_cpu.jpg
http://athlonmb.com/images/4wayopteron/first/sisoft_cpu.jpg

Notice how it kicks the crap out of the 4 way Xeon? ... Yeah.

[Allis]

isus doesnt even own a mac???

Now that's funny!

[NightZombie]

HP a250n has all the options!

[notbob]

configure your own dual opteron(64bit AMD) server here

http://www.americancomputech.com/smoreinfo.asp?iid=95225

(do the math hint: a fully pimped out g5 costs 8000$+)

http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/72204/wo/wEd4Pk76vjXc20dfrp61ZlcxMm8/2.0.7.1.0.5.1

[isus]

Originally posted by notbob
configure your own dual opteron(64bit AMD) server here

http://www.americancomputech.com/smoreinfo.asp?iid=95225

(do the math hint: a fully pimped out g5 costs 8000$+)

http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/72204/wo/wEd4Pk76vjXc20dfrp61ZlcxMm8/2.0.7.1.0.5.1

in your effort to once again come down on apple, you have forgotten that the apple store uses these things called cookies. nobody else can look at the link you posted from apple genius.

[isus]

Originally posted by Allis
isus doesnt even own a mac???

Now that's funny!

you got banned. now that's funny!

[notbob]

well it worked a week ago, when i expected people to read it

you know where apple.com is right?

go do it yourself

[notbob]

Originally posted by isus
you got banned. now that's funny!

maybe you're next

that's even funnier

[isus]

Originally posted by notbob
maybe you're next

that's even funnier

lol. i would laugh if i got banned too.

but then i would be sad, bc hey, i would have lost 1700 posts and so much history. lol. i like going back thru old posts when im bored.

[Feather]

one that is built by the owner to his own specs.

[maartendc]

Originally posted by Feather
one that is built by the owner to his own specs.

Amen to that!

Btw, nice one Notbob!

[Theinfamousone]

They compare them in photoshop. Intel's processors have always sucked with visual stuff, they are made more for work horse type operatons. These are all floating point tests.

A good test would be to put a dual Opterons/Itaniums with all the optimized crap and superfast DDR against a dual G5 with the 1Ghz FSB and have them both compress a DVD to divx/xvid and see what kind of fps encode rate you get. Maybe the guys at Tom's hardware have the kind of funds, I don't think many people at zeropaid could do that though.

[Theinfamousone]

Originally posted by notbob
configure your own dual opteron(64bit AMD) server here

http://www.americancomputech.com/smoreinfo.asp?iid=95225

(do the math hint: a fully pimped out g5 costs 8000$+)

http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/72204/wo/wEd4Pk76vjXc20dfrp61ZlcxMm8/2.0.7.1.0.5.1

You can get 4 250 Gig hard drives, that's a whole TB!

Let's not forget the 6 gigs of DDR

*drools* dual 64bit Opterons....

[Theinfamousone]

Actually, now that I think about, I dont even know why we're having this conversation, we're comparing apples and oranges, the G5 is a 64bit processor. When the Athlon 64, and P5 come out, we'll have a little better competition, especially since the P5 will have up to 5Ghz clockspeeds, built in hyperthreading, and they are doubling all the cache sizes.

http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/20030623/p4_3200-02.html

[notbob]

Originally posted by Theinfamousone
Actually, now that I think about, I dont even know why we're having this conversation, we're comparing apples and oranges, the G5 is a 64bit processor. When the Athlon 64, and P5 come out, we'll have a little better competition, especially since the P5 will have up to 5Ghz clockspeeds, built in hyperthreading, and they are doubling all the cache sizes.

http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/20030623/p4_3200-02.html

amd opterons ARE 64 bit

the one you (might have) made was a 64 bit system (dual) from my link

the 64 bit intel is the itanium 2, also available, but not as cheap as the amd

[isus]

Originally posted by notbob
amd opterons ARE 64 bit

the one you (might have) made was a 64 bit system (dual) from my link

the 64 bit intel is the itanium 2, also available, but not as cheap as the amd

intel is never as cheap as amd... and amd usually delivers better performance then intel... although intel's 800mhz fsb is pretty cool :-P i think my friend (rafter109) said in ddr terms, you would have pc6400 to take full advantage of that. lol. pc6400...

[notbob]

Originally posted by isus
intel is never as cheap as amd... and amd usually delivers better performance then intel... although intel's 800mhz fsb is pretty cool :-P i think my friend (rafter109) said in ddr terms, you would have pc6400 to take full advantage of that. lol. pc6400...

you know how i love taking computer advice from a 16 year old that doesn't know a gigaflop from a belly flop

apple uses pc3200 if that means anything

[CCSDUDE]

Originally posted by isus
intel is never as cheap as amd... and amd usually delivers better performance then intel... although intel's 800mhz fsb is pretty cool :-P i think my friend (rafter109) said in ddr terms, you would have pc6400 to take full advantage of that. lol. pc6400...

Your Apple as well as any 'ole P4/XP's can use PC3200 (DDR400) which is in effect running at 800mhz with a nice bandwidth of 3.2gbs.

Your 'friend' is nothing more then a run of the mill kid talking out of his ass....unless...oh...oh...unless YOU thought that crazy crap up an pawned it off on a 'friend' thats not even real. *laughs*

/Sarcasm = off

*Is well aware of the fact that you didn't know and tried to play that info off as a joke of sorts*

[isus]

Originally posted by notbob
you know how i love taking computer advice from a 16 year old that doesn't know a gigaflop from a belly flop

apple uses pc3200 if that means anything

im 17, mr. jingles. a gigaflop is one billion floating point ops. a bellyflop is a jump you do, usually into a pool.

ccsdude: yea, i really cared so much about amd/intel that i came up with these numbers. you're a complete idiot. from the "macs are so cool" thread to this.

[notbob]

Originally posted by isus
im 17, mr. jingles. a gigaflop is one billion floating point ops. a bellyflop is a jump you do, usually into a pool.



no fair! you googled it!

actually i meant your friend, not you

as for 16 vs. 17, where's the big friggin' difference?

[isus]

Originally posted by notbob
no fair! you googled it!

actually i meant your friend, not you

as for 16 vs. 17, where's the big friggin' difference?

no, i didn't google it... i remember in 8th grade, one of my teachers had a mac poster that said it. didn't learn anything from the guy, but it was a fun class. one kid peed in a trashcan. he got suspended though.

between 16 and 17, there is a lot of difference. when you're 17, you can go see rated r movies alone. lol. yea, still not old enough to get drunk or smoke, but one more year...

as for my friend, i haven't seen him on aol lately... dunno what happened to him.

[rafter109]

Yea im back, I see you people like talkin trash behind backs. Hmm.... Gigaflop from a Bellyflop, I like that one mr. smart ass 1 Gigaflop = 1 billion decimal maths/second. Isus didnt elaborate so i figured i would. Oh yea, the bellyflop thing, Isus was pretty close altho he failed to note that it was a 'dive' not a 'jump' and it requires that your body land flat out and completely parallel with the surface of the water or it would be something different, and unless you are a complete moron, you would only do it into a pool. (noting that there was sarcasm in Isus' response)

BTW, I'm not your run of the mill 16 year old that talks out his ass. Isus also failed to note that when i said it would take pc6400 to be fully efficient on the bus, i was at the time refering to how the P4 800 fsb is a quad pumped fsb running truely at 200 MHz so the fastest ram that it could possibly take full advantage of then would be pc 3200 because after you factor in that ddr uses a 2x multiplier on the fsb it would run at 400 MHz regardless of what the cpu ran at. I was stating that if the p4 was a true 800MHz cpu, they would use a 400MHz fsb. At this speed, the maximum rated fully efficient ram would be pc6400 which does not exist on the consumer market (or at least i havent seen it yet).

[isus]

err, never mind. haha.

btw, notbob... just bc im bored, i did look it up on google. apparently a 'flop' in itself is a decimal carried out 17 places. why 17? lol... it doesn't say... but i still wanna know.

[Theinfamousone]

Originally posted by notbob
amd opterons ARE 64 bit

the one you (might have) made was a 64 bit system (dual) from my link

the 64 bit intel is the itanium 2, also available, but not as cheap as the amd

Yes, I know about the itanium and Opteron being 64bit, but my point is that they are comparing a newly released 64 bit processor against a 32 bit chip who's architecture is 8 years old.

Just look at this (http://www.apple.com/powermac/) and you'll see what I mean. I want to see comparisons to other 64 bit chips. They compare it to dual Xeons? Xeons are a nice name for Pentium III's!

[mp3MaStA88]

i would have to say apple because they are based on the unix system! The one problem about them is that they are too expensive! why would you pay 2000 for an apple computer, when you can pay as low as 499 for a dell or some other type of computer! i also like :::voodoo pc's::: (http://www.voodoopc.com/) or :::alienware pc's::: (http://www.alienware.com/) those would be one of the pcs i would get for a lower price! but if i were to get an apple computer, i would get the new G5 which comes w/ 2 processors and 9 fans inside. the cover is a titanium which lets the cpu parts breathe more(get more air):bk :mellow

[zebi]

Originally posted by isus

yea, still not old enough to get drunk or smoke, but one more year...


Not old enough cause your parents don't allow you yet or what do you mean?

[Theinfamousone]

Check this (http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,3973,1188770,00.asp) action out. Seems they are making vast improvements in their RAM. DDR400 sucks compared to that.

[isus]

Originally posted by zebi
Not old enough cause your parents don't allow you yet or what do you mean?

i'm not old enough to buy it. i hafta get one of my friends to buy it :-\

[wasjosh]

i dont know about the XBox but the PS2 has a linux kit for about 200 bucks

[zebi]

Originally posted by isus
i'm not old enough to buy it. i hafta get one of my friends to buy it :-\

Huh? Where do you live, have you ever tried to buy it yourself?
I'm quite young and can buy cigarettes and tobacco wherever i want, alcohol is a bit harder, i have to make up something to be able to buy it.
btw i live in belgium.

[Theinfamousone]

http://www.macopinion.com/columns/engine/03/07/10/

Here's a neat little article where a guy who sounds like he knows what he's talking about goes over the revolutionary improvements made in the G5.

[isus]

Originally posted by zebi
Huh? Where do you live, have you ever tried to buy it yourself?
I'm quite young and can buy cigarettes and tobacco wherever i want, alcohol is a bit harder, i have to make up something to be able to buy it.
btw i live in belgium.

i live in the good ol' us of a... i'm 17

i can get fired for bagging alcohol at the grocery store i work at, bc it is against the law... *sigh*

[PowerMan57two]

I had to vote for Microsoft! Their my favorite!

[tamarisk]

It should be IBM compatible computer not microsoft

[MoonMan]

Originally posted by isus
you got banned. now that's funny!

Originally posted by notbob
maybe you're next

that's even funnier

I can't help but laugh at that.

[method77]

LOL!!!


NOTBOB FOR GOVERNOR!!!

[Omyn]

I make my own.

[dragoonballz]

I feel sorry for all of you who thinks that Macs are the best and IBMs AKA Microsofts computers suck. I make my own computers and they have been reliable ever since the first computer that I had. So let me know when you MAC users convert to the light side instead of being in the dark side.

[isus]

lol @ dragoonballz...

"convert to the light side instead of being in the dark side"

oh lordy, now we are comparing computers to star wars and jedi stuff.

[shawners]

I Think the Mac makes great computers, but lack of third party software support seems to always been their problem. I Believe that anyone could do a job faster using a mac and be 100 percent efficent.> I like windows cause i have used it since the beginning and like to modify my pc without worrying about finding right software, or substitute.

[Jelsoft]

When did Nintendo and Sega start selling their own computers?

And I wouldn't call the Xbox a computer.

[isus]

"but lack of third party software support seems to always been their problem"

what do you need to do?
if it doesn't involve gaming, it's probably out there for mac.

[lizardsforall]

i dont know about the XBox but the PS2 has a linux kit for about 200 bucks
PS2 does have a Linux Kit as Well, but Going through the trouble of modding the PS2 and Buying the Extra hardware required to run it makes the xbox linux look like a bargin


When did Nintendo and Sega start selling their own computers?

And I wouldn't call the Xbox a computer.

If you open up an Xbox,you can see all the lovely parts of the computer inside It's just not a usable computer for the everyday person.

[isus]

they're both consoles. what are they advertised as? what is their official use?

analogy:
the space shuttle is used as a glider on its way back down to earth, but that doesn't make it a glider. it's still a space shuttle. just bc you run linux on your console, doesn't make your console a computer.

you say potato, i say potatoe.