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Cleric
June 17th, 2003, 05:23 PM
WASHINGTON - The chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee said Tuesday he favors developing new technology to remotely destroy the computers of people who illegally download music from the Internet.

The surprise remarks by Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, during a hearing on copyright abuses represent a dramatic escalation in the frustrating battle by industry executives and lawmakers in Washington against illegal music downloads.

During a discussion on methods to frustrate computer users who illegally exchange music and movie files over the Internet, Hatch asked technology executives about ways to damage computers involved in such file trading. Legal experts have said any such attack would violate federal anti-hacking laws.

"No one is interested in destroying anyone's computer," replied Randy Saaf of MediaDefender Inc., a secretive Los Angeles company that builds technology to disrupt music downloads. One technique deliberately downloads pirated material very slowly so other users can't.

"I'm interested," Hatch interrupted. He said damaging someone's computer "may be the only way you can teach somebody about copyrights."

The senator acknowledged Congress would have to enact an exemption for copyright owners from liability for damaging computers. He endorsed technology that would twice warn a computer user about illegal online behavior, "then destroy their computer."

"If we can find some way to do this without destroying their machines, we'd be interested in hearing about that," Hatch said. "If that's the only way, then I'm all for destroying their machines. If you have a few hundred thousand of those, I think people would realize" the seriousness of their actions, he said.

"There's no excuse for anyone violating copyright laws," Hatch said.

Rep. Rick Boucher, D-Va., who has been active in copyright debates in Washington, urged Hatch to reconsider. Boucher described Hatch's role as chairman of the Judiciary Committee as "a very important position, so when Senator Hatch indicates his views with regard to a particular subject, we all take those views very seriously."

Some legal experts suggested Hatch's provocative remarks were more likely intended to compel technology and music executives to work faster toward ways to protect copyrights online than to signal forthcoming legislation.

"It's just the frustration of those who are looking at enforcing laws that are proving very hard to enforce," said Orin Kerr, a former Justice Department cybercrimes prosecutor and associate professor at George Washington University law school.

The entertainment industry has gradually escalated its fight against Internet file-traders, targeting the most egregious pirates with civil lawsuits. The Recording Industry Association of America recently won a federal court decision making it significantly easier to identify and track consumers - even those hiding behind aliases - using popular Internet file-sharing software.

Kerr predicted it was "extremely unlikely" for Congress to approve a hacking exemption for copyright owners, partly because of risks of collateral damage when innocent users might be wrongly targeted.

"It wouldn't work," Kerr said. "There's no way of limiting the damage."

Last year, Rep. Howard Berman, D-Calif., ignited a firestorm across the Internet over a proposal to give the entertainment industry new powers to disrupt downloads of pirated music and movies. It would have lifted civil and criminal penalties against entertainment companies for disabling, diverting or blocking the trading of pirated songs and movies on the Internet.

But Berman, ranking Democrat on the House Judiciary panel on the Internet and intellectual property, always has maintained that his proposal wouldn't permit hacker-style attacks by the industry on Internet users.

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On the Net: Sen. Hatch: http://hatch.senate.gov


The time has come for all to unite.:cross

Aaron73153
June 17th, 2003, 05:37 PM
"There's no excuse for anyone violating copyright laws," Hatch said.

There's also no excuse for the RIAA conspiring to fix CD prices, not give viable legal downloads and other things that irk consumers. This is not an issue where the RIAA has clean hands, a judge has already found them guilty of fixing prices. Make sure the record companies behave or break them up, then let things work themselves out, we don't need more government regulation on how we can use the internet.

nukehella
June 17th, 2003, 05:58 PM
What a dickhead!

MoonMan
June 17th, 2003, 06:08 PM
Destroying personal computers as a means to stop copyright protections ?!?!?!!?!? Have Senator Hatch lost his marbles ?!?! Sure if something like that ever passed it wouldn't be too pretty, but did he even think of the consequences ?

What about counter attacks by protessional hackers ? What about countries OUTSIDE of the USA whose citizens property is being destroyed because of the careless actions of some dumbass senators proposal ? I think some countries would be very pissed at the US if their citizens were reporting their computers not working because of the actions of the United States Gov. They do realize people outside America do use the internet right ?

cpugeniusmv
June 17th, 2003, 06:21 PM
how can they remotely destroy computers? are there dormant bombs in my case that no one told me about? i think not.

ROMANTICGUY50
June 17th, 2003, 07:01 PM
I think Senator Hatch is an old man with the brain of a JackAss
He probaly is one as well. I don't know if that is possible or not to destroy someone's computer or not. Hatch is a danger to society as far as I am concerned. He has really gone over the deep end and needs to be put away and anyone else who thinks the way he does. This would be a violation of our civil rights. I don't know how this could be done. Prob. someone smarter than I with alot of tech knowledge would know.
LET THE WAR BEGIN- LETS KICK SOME ASS

CompuGeek
June 17th, 2003, 07:16 PM
Try New Norton AntiVirus 2004.

Now with copyright infringement self-destruct feature!

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:sw

Cleric
June 17th, 2003, 07:49 PM
CompuGeek,

Thanks for the headsup. Didnt know that about NAV 2004. Gonna have to look into that