View Full Version : I've never understood the copy protection
View Full Version : I've never understood the copy protection
killswitch1968
June 8th, 2003, 05:52 AM
I mean really, what is the RIAA trying to accomplish?
Preventing people from getting mp3s off a CD.
That's all it really does. But it's only a PREVENTATIVE measure for the most conventional of rippers. As long as SOMETHING can play that CD, it can be turned into an mp3. Naturally this takes some expensive equipment, equipment most people don't have. however all it takes is ONE PERSON to rip the CD and then share it, and the mp3s will spread exponentially.
It's a speed bump at best. It's FAR more detrimental to CD sales. I would NEVER buy a CD that's been copy protected. Not only that, but copy protections are more expensive to make.
The idea is people will scour the internet for the songs, then throw up their hands and say "oh jeese I can't download the songs, I guess I have to buy the CD". Never going to happen. No one would support a CD that blockaded their best efforts to pre-listen.
It makes absolutely no sense. If this is the RIAA's solution they're gonna need a backup plan.
mrlipring
June 8th, 2003, 07:39 AM
i think more people are likely to download an album than buy the copy protected version.
shooting-themselves-in-the-foot-tastic.
Captain_FLX
June 8th, 2003, 11:01 AM
well Riaa is a dumbass Industry anywayz BUT supposdly their dumbasses believe that if you buy a CD you can duplicate it for yourself and not distribute it on the Net of course no one is going to listen to them but they're wasting millions of dollars trying to change the world which is a waste of time cause it'll never happen.
Lamourlady
June 8th, 2003, 11:19 AM
yep, all it takes is one person and vwala!
it's magic, pure magic.
MacGyver
June 8th, 2003, 11:22 AM
Whoaaa!... What are you talking about? Expensive equipment needed for ripping copy protected cds? I dont think so. I bought a copy protected cd off of perfectbeat.com on purpose because I wanted to rip it with isobuster. When I put it into my pc isobuster had no problems what so ever for extracting the audio. I have actually just encoded it with SCMPX at 320 bitrate. You cant even tell a difference in sound. Besides, if this approach didnt work i would have just used my analog input on my soundcard (which everybody has) People... you cant tell the difference on an mp3 that was recorded analog because the noise you get from analog recording is in like the 40 to 60 db range below 0...Thats like saying the noise is on the order of one one-hundredeth to one one-thousanth of the music. Yeah my 2 dogs can hear that but people cant. Especially when the sound has been encoded via mp3..
Siskabush
June 8th, 2003, 07:15 PM
Simple
Just record the CD to a tape
Plug in your tape player into the mic plug
Open sound recorder or whatever, and play the tape, and record away :D
crackerjacker
June 8th, 2003, 07:20 PM
bought a copy protected cd off of perfectbeat.com on purpose because I wanted to rip it with isobuster. When I put it into my pc isobuster had no problems what so ever for extracting the audio. I have actually just encoded it with SCMPX at 320 bitrate. You cant even tell a difference in sound. Besides, if this approach didnt work i would have just used my analog input on my soundcard (which everybody has) People... you cant tell the difference on an mp3 that was recorded analog because the noise you get from analog recording is in like the 40 to 60 db range below 0
Exactly. I am glad someone posted this.
p00n1s
June 8th, 2003, 07:27 PM
Originally posted by Siskabush
Simple
Just record the CD to a tape
Plug in your tape player into the mic plug
Open sound recorder or whatever, and play the tape, and record away :D
if you're going to record analog, you might as well just skip the tape step, and go right from line-out of your cd player to your sound card line-in.
MacGyver
June 8th, 2003, 08:10 PM
going to tape then to computer is the worst idea...thats a good way to loose sound quality...
Go right in your soundcard.. you need a double male headphone jack
that stuff is cheap at radioshack
CCSDUDE
June 8th, 2003, 08:35 PM
Macgyver....what soundcard would you be using? To get something of 'real' quality (IE something damn close to a data stream rip) you do need expensive stuff...like I said in that other thread you'd need at least an aardvark soundcard w/ breakout box to grab anything worth a damn..
Your run of the mill SB/Turtle Beach/Random generic card/MB driven sound.. (AC97 and such) won't do any CD nor a tape justice...ever...
The parts are just to cheap..the DAC chips are crap with poor judgement and the whole board usually doesn't have much in the way of interference mechanisms...
Even if a CD is copy protected there are ways to get around it...just need a CDRW drive that can read/burn multiple tracks and ignores overlapping. Also need one that can read subtrack and ignore errors. :)
A cheap $45 (+ tax) "Norcent" CDRW drive will do ya...I've used mine to rip PSX games without the aid of a mod chip to play 'em.