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downloadalot
June 2nd, 2003, 06:54 PM
1-In the beginning, there was napster.

2-Then napster started filtering their serches.

3-Appeared alternate "open nap" servers with no filters. You would connect to them using napster-napigator or win-mx. Most of the open nap server were relativelately small - as in not many users- because they relied on indivudual's hi-speed internet connections to run.

4-"Musiccity emerged as the biggest napster server, beating -in numbers, nerver in quality of choice- the original one. It outpassed any other open nap servers because it had the ressources of a major company.

5-Suddenly, while the numbers of user where at is peak, musiccity servers stopped working with napster (hahaha! suckers! come to daddy). thousands- or millions- of users recieved a pop-up saying they need to download morpheus to continue downlaoding.

6-Morpheus was no1 p2p app

7-?????????

At first, I thought Morpheus and Kazaa where the same. But now morpheus is on the gnutella - a network that never worked, ever.

My question : Who is Kazaa -Sharman networks? Where are they coming from? Hi think I heard they bought the original morpheus, but I'm not sure.

isus
June 2nd, 2003, 07:18 PM
kazaa/sharman didn't buy anything of morpheus...

morpheus didnt pay their network access fees, and blam, sharman cut them out.

sharman is just a greedy, money-grubbing little company.

MoonMan
June 2nd, 2003, 07:52 PM
It wasn't Sharman that cut them off, it was the people who owned the Fasttrack protocol at the time (can't remember who).

Also, Gnutella does work. It sucks but it does work. That's why so many people still use Morpheus. If you don't believe me then you can check (irc://irc.p2pchat.net/#morpheus:6667).

downloadalot
June 2nd, 2003, 08:00 PM
So the people that owned the Fasttrack where "renting it" to morpheus and then kazaa?

-I know that gnutella works but is not good. this is what I meant.

Evil_Dweller_01
June 2nd, 2003, 08:05 PM
Originally posted by downloadalot


-I know that gnutella works but is not good. this is what I meant.

Depends on which program you are talking about...

downloadalot
June 2nd, 2003, 08:12 PM
"Depends on which program you are talking about..."

Tried bearshare, limewire, will not try morpheus or any other.
Shareaza is good but does not rely on gnutella - g2 is something else.

A good g1 p2p app? No, I do not beleive it.

ozamosi
June 8th, 2003, 06:32 AM
Originally posted by downloadalot
So the people that owned the Fasttrack where "renting it" to morpheus and then kazaa?

Nah, KaZaA was the program created by the FTcreators, so morpeus rented the kazaa client from the kazaa-owners niclas zennström and janus friis. they were only allowed to make minor cosmetic changes (renaming it, change icons...).

downloadalot
June 15th, 2003, 06:49 PM
So, if I get it right, kazaa owns the Fasttrack protocol.
Then what about other fasttrack clients (imesh-grokster)? are they renting the code like morpheus used to, or do they use it fo free? Do they have any link whatsoever with kazaa?

triniti
June 15th, 2003, 07:34 PM
Originally posted by MoonMan
It wasn't Sharman that cut them off, it was the people who owned the Fasttrack protocol at the time (can't remember who).

Also, Gnutella does work. It sucks but it does work. That's why so many people still use Morpheus. If you don't believe me then you can check (irc://irc.p2pchat.net/#morpheus:6667).

It was Joltid, http://www.joltid.com/

triniti
June 15th, 2003, 07:41 PM
Originally posted by downloadalot
So, if I get it right, kazaa owns the Fasttrack protocol.
Then what about other fasttrack clients (imesh-grokster)? are they renting the code like morpheus used to, or do they use it fo free? Do they have any link whatsoever with kazaa?

No, Joltid still owns the protocol, they are renting out the stack to imesh, kazaa and grokster. Joltid just gave up the kazaa app and name + domain name.

downloadalot
June 17th, 2003, 10:20 PM
So the protocol is privately owned, clients just rent the right to use it. What about the other networks - do they work the same way? - I think gnutella is available to anyone for use (not that it is worth anything, but...) What about g2? could I start my own client? Does shareaza have an exclusive license?

And fastrack... wouldnt there be a way to hack to protocol, to have a client that use the network but dont pay to jotlib?

Evil_Dweller_01
June 18th, 2003, 01:34 PM
Originally posted by downloadalot

And fastrack... wouldnt there be a way to hack to protocol, to have a client that use the network but dont pay to jotlib?

No...because a new version would come out that blocks it

Mldonkey is using FastTrack network without pay...nothing major happening so it seems like they dont care