Looking for linux. [Red Hat, Lindow, SuSe]

[leleyusa]

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Guys, I'm looking to get Linux on a new PC I'm bulding, now I want to know what's the best distribution for me to get, I kinda had my heart set on these 3 distr.:
Red Hat; SuSe; Lindows.

Also wanted to know how do I get ahold of a good Windows emulator for my Linux, so I can run games and such on it w/o prob.

Thx, wmr

[mrlipring]

i'm not so sure that you WILL be able to run games and stuff on it *easily*, even if it IS *possible* to get them running well.

Might be better to dual-boot.

[wonderboy2005]

first of all, take lindows off the list. there's no way your paying for a linux OS, especially since you can get a better distro for free. lidows, while a good theory in concept, fails horribly in design.

ive never tried suse, but i imagine its OK. i would reccomend either redhat or mandrake. both are great linux OSs. if you dont want to go with the mandrake, since its not in your small list, then go with redhat. thats what i run right now, and it is a good OS.

edit: as for the games, well trying to get windows games to run on a linux box is not worth it. it took me 2 hours to ATTEMT to get kazaa to work on linux, it will be exponentially harder with a game. my suggestion, if you dont want to pay for a windows OS, is to get a linux distro then *get* a windows OS from DC or IRC

[thunderrooster]

HI.I would drop the idea of using lindows,its not all that trust me.And plus you have to pay for programs like mozilla and other little programs like that are free for linux and windows.I would use redhat or mandrake.both are easy to install.And far as games you can try to use wine to get some to play.I have gotten several games to work.And if you are a ut and quake fan they will install and play in linux.Well ut will for quake you need a opengl card.If you building a new comp i would get a nvidia card.They have great support for linux and with the new linux installation they are pretty easy to install in linux.Here is wine website with apps listed http://appdb.winehq.com/appbrowse.php?PHPSESSID=e728cc878a612c1058f2093cfd 66391c and far as other apps there is msn messenger for linux,not from msn though,amsn and kmess.And for file sharing there is several.And far as SuSe i have played around with it and well it did not do anything for me but that was older versions.I stick with mandrake and redhat.Mandrake being my favorite distro.

[wonderboy2005]

Originally posted by thunderrooster
HI.I would drop the idea of using lindows,its not all that trust me.And plus you have to pay for programs like mozilla and other little programs like that are free for linux and windows.I would use redhat or mandrake.both are easy to install.And far as games you can try to use wine to get some to play.I have gotten several games to work.And if you are a ut and quake fan they will install and play in linux.Well ut will for quake you need a opengl card.If you building a new comp i would get a nvidia card.They have great support for linux and with the new linux installation they are pretty easy to install in linux.Here is wine website with apps listed http://appdb.winehq.com/appbrowse.php?PHPSESSID=e728cc878a612c1058f2093cfd 66391c and far as other apps there is msn messenger for linux,not from msn though,amsn and kmess.And for file sharing there is several.And far as SuSe i have played around with it and well it did not do anything for me but that was older versions.I stick with mandrake and redhat.Mandrake being my favorite distro.

thanx for elaborating on what i said... i iwould have explained everything in more detail, but i was in a hurry. you covered it tho :) btw, welcome to ZP

the thing thats so great about linux is that its free. your not limited to one disto. go download one you think youll like (www.linuxiso.com has ISOs of every major dist) and install it. dont like it? go download another one. simple as that. for ease of use and general usability, mandrake and redhat are the favorites. i have yet to hear somone who (knows what they are talking about) has particular distaste for either of the two. i think youll be happy with either, and there are others that would definately suit your needs as well. like i said above, the only problem you'll problably run into is the game thing. you'll have a hell of a time getting games to work in wine, unless you can get it preconfigured with a certain game or games support. your better off going with a dual boot sytem, or running VMware/Virtual PC on your linux desktop. also, many popular games have been made for linux specifically. i know that id makes most of their games for linux too. just somthing you might want to think about.

this thread has gotten me a little interested in my linux, so im going to go boot it now.

[Tremaine]

there a link for the red hat iso torrent file http://207.44.142.96/redhat9.torrent
and knoppix
http://207.44.142.96/KNOPPIX_V3.2-2003-03-28-EN.torrent

[QuickSurfer]

If you dont have much experiance with Linux then I suggest getting a distro that will run on the same partition as windows. This way its really easy to switch back and forth between linux and windows. I suggest this method to people who are new to Linux and want to learn it alittle before trying one of the other distros such as mandrake and red hat. If you want a really good distrobution that runs on the same partition as windows check out http://topologi-linux.sourceforge.net/index.php

[hawkburn]

Originally posted by Tremaine
there a link for the red hat iso torrent file http://207.44.142.96/redhat9.torrent
and knoppix
http://207.44.142.96/KNOPPIX_V3.2-2003-03-28-EN.torrent


I guess thats allowed right?

Although you can find it from a high-speed open source servers for free instead of getting it from various sources, I know BT is fast, but not as fast as professional servers.

And i believe this isnt against ZP rules (posting P2P links to free open-source files) so ok.

As for Linux, I would say RedHat, as Mandrake wouldnt even take my ATI card :/

Anyway, you can try it, no money lost, but Lindows is a no-no in my book.

[PiRaNeTuS]

I've got Mandrake 9, and I must admit, I am very impressed by it. I like it the best. If I were you, I wouldn't try to use wine or anything like that. I would just dual boot. Dual-booting Mandrake and Windows XP is a very viable and useful thing to do.

[leleyusa]

what abou red hat and winXP? how easy would it be to double boot those?
:sw

[wonderboy2005]

basically, you can dual boot anything. there are a couple programs out now, grub and lilo (dont worry about them, they come with distros) that will make it very easy to dual boot basically any OS. if the OS has a normal boot on an x86 machine, you wont have any problems. (note: if you can run the OS on a windows compatible PC, its an x86 computer)

if you do dual boot, however, i suggest you install windows first. windows has a dominance problem, so if you install linux first, windows might install right on top of it.

note: you can configure your boot manager (grub or lilo) to boot any of the OSs it can boot automatically. i have mine set to boot windows, but you may prefer booting linux by default.

[DrOzz]

well just like another fella said you can use wine for playing games or to use windows software...i have never had a problem with the version of wine on the redhat cd..which is the same as the ones on www.winehq.com .. and for alot of games they suggest using winex, as its built for gaming under linux...its says on the site you have to pay 5 dollars a month but you can get it through cvs or search for a version somewheres else...i know i downloaded it for free off some site i think it was something like slinux.com or something...as for the software end of it, what windows has, linux has, just under a different name for example Microsoft Office and OpenOffice.org...in which openoffice can read ms office documents from any version...
as for distros, i would recommend redhat, although mandrake is nice and pre-packed with wayyy more software, i don't like the idea of the unstable kernel in mdk9.1 and mdk9.0...i think mdk8.2 is the latest mandrake distro that has a stable kernel....and speaking of redhat, there is multiple sites out there to get the rpm packages for programs such as k3b (for burning) and xine (video player for all types) and theres a small simple rpm package to get mp3 support in the xmms media player...so for the small amount of time that it will take to get you up to speed with redhat, i would totally recommend it to you...

[Feather]

i would say go with linux redhat 9 my friends have serveral different game servers running with it and the install and everything is sweet. you will also be albe to find it on kazaa because i have the 3 iso for it on there

[Psilaxs]

If you want the NEWEST Redhat (Redhat 9), (LUNIXISO only has 8.0)
Go here http://altruistic.lbl.gov/iso/RedHat-9/shrike-i386-disc1.iso

This is an insanely fast server, took me a little less then an hour to get disc 1

[shavedrabbit]

Debian.

It is the esiest to maintain, great support, not as bloated as Redhat.


I'd suggest you stay away from rehat due to the fact that they are notorious for packing in unstable software with their distrobution.

It all really depends on what you need your PC for. If you want games, Linux is not for you, it is not being developed with games in mind. If you want a rock solid server, go with FreeBSD. Linux is for the desktop user who wants to dabble in *nix.

Unless you need Linux for some specific purpose and are not afraid of using a command line and compiling programs, don't get it.


Although if you are hell bent on getting linux and playing games: WineX is what you'll want to use.

[cribology crew]

Just so happens that in my latest copy of "Linux Format" the 3 major distros are reviewed: Here is the ratings

Linux Red Hat 9:
features - 7/10
performance - 8/10
ease of use - 7/10
overall Linux Format rating - 8/10

SuSE 8.2 professional;
features - 9/10
documentation - 9/10
ease of use - 9/10
overall Linux Format rating = 9/10

Mandrake 9.1
features - 10/10
documentation - 7/10
ease of use - 9/10
overall Linux Format rating = 9/10

Suse 8.2 got the "best distro" award ahead of Mandrake.

[thunderrooster]

Debian, thats a joke for a first time newbie to install.Unless they have made big major changes in thier install process.No disrespect shavedrabbit.Well as far as which one is better that depends on the user cribology crew.Me im a mandrake fan.And some of my friends are redhat fans and dont even like mandrake.leleyusa if i was you I would try different ones.I started off on redhat then went to mandrake then tried others like debian,slackware and SuSe.You cannont download a iso image for SuSe.Run to a store and buy SuSe or do the ftp install they offer and just try the different ones would be my best suggestion.It dont take long to install linux and its easy to wipe out the linux partitions and install a new distro.Start off with one of the easy ones like Redhat,Mandrake or SuSe then when you feel comfortable install one of the harder distros to install.Here is some other links you might want to check out http://www.linuxnewbie.org/ http://www.linuxquestions.org/ http://www.mandrakeuser.org/index.php http://www.redhat.com/apps/support/ http://sdb.suse.de/sdb/en/html/ http://www.debian.org/support http://www.slackware.com/support/
http://www.linuxlinks.com
http://www.tldp.org/
They use to have a server for irc openprojects.net dont know if they still do though.