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TFoS_Fan
May 21st, 2003, 02:39 AM
Ok, guys I have tried several of the Bittorrent clients and I really do not see the "kick-ass" downloads. I am using BT++ at the moment and I have tried it at all the settings, I am a dialup users so I first tried it at that and then I tried it at Unlimited and the other, but I could only get at best 5kbs out the program, sorry "Total Download Speed" was massive but what relevence does this really have? I can get 5kbs and over on KaZaA, XSC, Shareaza and Morpheus v3. So whats the big deal?

triniti
May 21st, 2003, 03:02 AM
BitTorrent is really designed for broadband so do not expect it to work for dialup at all. I get 3.12 megabits down on my cable modem from BT++ so no complaints here.

TFoS_Fan
May 21st, 2003, 03:09 AM
Well I can't really see how it maxes out one type of connection and not others. Also, for all the coders out there, the guy who made this says he worked full-time for a year on it. Do you think it is so well coded that this is the case? The GUI it as to be said is very basic, at least.

triniti
May 21st, 2003, 03:15 AM
Originally posted by Mel_Smiley
Not much for you. Trying to gain a kb just aint BT's thing. It maxes out my cable connection though, sometimes. In fact dial up users who want large files from BT, more than likely will not get them, because most torrents are dead with-in two weeks. BT spreads files like the sars virus

My point exactlly, BT is made to get new content fast, not over a dial-up, so I would try ajnother p2p app or get broadband.

Mel_Smiley
May 21st, 2003, 03:25 AM
well TFoS, BT doesnt like to serve people who are not uploading much first. So basicaly, your always last to get the leftover bandwidth. The GUI is meaningless, its the functions of how BT appropiates uploads/downloads that is ingenious. One guy working a year? great, out standing job!

TFoS_Fan
May 21st, 2003, 03:35 AM
Ok, just wondered, someday they will put Broadband into my area!

Mel_Smiley
May 21st, 2003, 03:57 AM
I pray for you TSoF!!! lol I blow half my monthly budget on my broadband connection but dial up is unexceptable to me now. I find it frustrating to use and it causes me fits of rage. I do think you would be better off sticking with another app for now. I feed the 56kers and they usually throw me a bone too.(on winmx plug plug) I just added that so as you would not think I hate dial up users. I dont

TFoS_Fan
May 21st, 2003, 04:48 AM
Its ok I know u dont hae dial-up users - you were just telling me the facts of the program.

Psilaxs
May 21st, 2003, 05:38 AM
I get crap on bit torrent, best i ever got was 65K for about a minute, then it dropped to 50 then 40 then eventually down to about 4. or zero, or any single digit number.

I gave up on Bit Torrent about a week ago, when i fail to get any semblance of speed what so ever from it.

TFoS_Fan
May 21st, 2003, 06:06 AM
Interesting...is it just us Psilaxs?

zebi
May 21st, 2003, 06:11 AM
I used to get around 100 kilobyte/s.
Now i don't even get to 30.

Sosua
May 21st, 2003, 06:45 AM
Sorry everybody but this BT is just BULL S''T stuff. I have tried it 30 times since last week and it Suck big time. Dont understand all the hype for this. 75% of the time there is a tracker problem and the rest is very low download speed. I have High Speed ultra, 3 Mbit/s for download and 640 kbit/s for upload witch is more then descent. The most i got from BT is 5ko/s download and 8 ko/s upload. Using Emule is a 100 times better. If you download the Matrix for exemple it is 3 cds so let say you get about 20 ko/s average on each cd that makes 60 ko/s total.

Never in my wildest dream i will get that speed on BT. If you checked at any BT website all you have is people complainning about FAKES and the Traker. The sites dont clean there downloads anybody can post a download FAKE . When you use Sharereactor or Filenexus or Sharealive you never encounter this problem. This BT is only a big hype. The most popular site for BT is http://www.suprnova.org/ and its down most of the time or have all kinds of problem.

mrlipring
May 21st, 2003, 06:51 AM
Depends what you're downloading. I can consistently max out my connection when downloading well seeded, popular stuff.

The reason it doesn't like dialup is because the uploads saturate your throughput.

mrlipring
May 21st, 2003, 07:00 AM
Originally posted by Sosua
Sorry everybody but this BT is just BULL S''T stuff. I have tried it 30 times since last week and it Suck big time. Dont understand all the hype for this. 75% of the time there is a tracker problem and the rest is very low download speed. I have High Speed ultra, 3 Mbit/s for download and 640 kbit/s for upload witch is more then descent. The most i got from BT is 5ko/s download and 8 ko/s upload. Using Emule is a 100 times better. If you download the Matrix for exemple it is 3 cds so let say you get about 20 ko/s average on each cd that makes 60 ko/s total.

Never in my wildest dream i will get that speed on BT. If you checked at any BT website all you have is people complainning about FAKES and the Traker. The sites dont clean there downloads anybody can post a download FAKE . When you use Sharereactor or Filenexus or Sharealive you never encounter this problem. This BT is only a big hype. The most popular site for BT is http://www.suprnova.org/ and its down most of the time or have all kinds of problem.

First off, BT is in its infancy, and people haven't started hosting trackers and linksites on decent servers. That's why they're always down. That and ddos attacks...

Secondly, fakes are to do with the quality of the linksites and trackers, not protocol and program.

Both of these problems will be fixed when people start to use better clients and better sites.

Sosua
May 21st, 2003, 07:07 AM
mrlipring
I understand your point of view and do agree with it. What i am saying is, NOW, the system suck big time. Does it have a future??? Yes i do beleive so.

I have not seen any site where they control the veracity of the links that are posted on there pages. Also if you go to there forum there is NO respect at all for each others, witch you get on regular Emule, Edonkey sites.

It will need a strong policy or this will be a free for all system without rules or ethic.

mrlipring
May 21st, 2003, 07:32 AM
you're absolutely right. I think BT is the way forward for filesharing though. Once these things get ironed out, it'll be great.

TFoS_Fan
May 21st, 2003, 07:48 AM
Do you think it can be improved for 56k users

mrlipring
May 21st, 2003, 07:57 AM
not really, no. There's a client that can throttle uploads i believe, that might help you, but the nature of torrents means that the torrent probably won't be alive long enough for you to get it at 5kB/s...

Dman212
May 21st, 2003, 09:26 PM
Speaking of Bittorent, I have a question about it. Is there anyway to pause/resume the downloads? If you can't then it'll be very hard for me to get files off there over extended periods of time. I don't want to leave my computer on 24 7. I'm on a dial-up connection and Bittorent is sucking some serious ass for me. I haven't really gotten anything from it. It's practically useless for dial-up users like others said earlier on in this thread.

triniti
May 21st, 2003, 09:52 PM
Originally posted by Dman212
Speaking of Bittorent, I have a question about it. Is there anyway to pause/resume the downloads? If you can't then it'll be very hard for me to get files off there over extended periods of time. I don't want to leave my computer on 24 7. I'm on a dial-up connection and Bittorent is sucking some serious ass for me. I haven't really gotten anything from it. It's practically useless for dial-up users like others said earlier on in this thread.

BT++ can pause/resume transfers. http://btplusplus.sourceforge.net/

zebi
May 24th, 2003, 05:08 AM
currently downloading a tv episode on bittorrent.
download rate: 0 kb/s
upload rate: 0 kb/s
Wooohoooo go bittorrent!!!!!

stephen_sterritt
May 24th, 2003, 05:24 AM
Originally posted by TFoS_Fan
Ok, guys I have tried several of the Bittorrent clients and I really do not see the "kick-ass" downloads. I am using BT++ at the moment and I have tried it at all the settings, I am a dialup users so I first tried it at that and then I tried it at Unlimited and the other, but I could only get at best 5kbs out the program, sorry "Total Download Speed" was massive but what relevence does this really have? I can get 5kbs and over on KaZaA, XSC, Shareaza and Morpheus v3. So whats the big deal?


well my bt client works fine and at great speeds yippie

stephen_sterritt
May 24th, 2003, 05:38 AM
here is a pic a few minutes later with the start of an upload and still at over 100k

god i love this program lol

cnp23
May 26th, 2003, 12:41 AM
currently getting 800kB/s down and 15kB/s up. Interesting, I guess I'm the last person to get this thing, usually my upload exceeds my download rate

crackerjacker
May 26th, 2003, 06:13 AM
Just to be fair you should realize that bittorent is not like a regular p2p program. It requires p2p users to keep there bittorent client open after they finish the download. This is turn will allow others to seed the file from you.
But the truth of the matter a torrent file does not last very long. This is the issue with bittorent that makes it unique from others.
The speeds will depend on the amount of users seeding the file and the popularity of the file.
So say if your downloading a file and your not getting main sources or any sources at all the reason your not getting any sources is because no one is seeding it or the tracker went down.
There is a way to check to see if there are any seeders before you download a torrent file.
When you visit a website that is hosting the torrent file there are stats available to you to tell you how many seeders are seeding the torrent file as well as how many people who are downloading and uploading as well. So like I said it all depends if the tracker is working, any seeders, whether the file is complete.
I mean bittorent is not perfect but it is free. One other note it takes bandwidth to keep a tracker alive.
So if your a regular user for bittorent and you can possibly donate to one of those torrent sites then you should.
later*
rtws

cnp23
June 15th, 2003, 07:32 PM
how many peers/seeds do you connect to? On a webpage, the stats said something like 20 seeds, 1100 peers, and in my BT experimental client, it says "connected to" 36 peers, 0 seeds, and my speeds are not going above 5kB/s while total speed is roughly 680-700kBps.

it's weird, it's going so slow heh

Meat Puppet
June 15th, 2003, 08:17 PM
BT has been my main P2P app for a couple months now at least. At first I was maxing out my dl speed of 250+ KBps most of the time. Now I usually get 50+ KBps at least, sometimes in the 80's or 90's. That's not shabby speeds for any P2P app. I can get a full movie in about 4 or 5 hours as compared to the same movie on eMule taking 2 days. I've gotten great music collections of certain groups containing every album they put out.
I can honestly say I've never gotten a corrupt
or misnamed file with BT. So all I can say is
BT works great for me.

Evil_Dweller_01
June 15th, 2003, 08:45 PM
BT++ kicks ass and is my all-time favorite p2p program

It's really like a dream come true..you get whatever the FREAK you want anytime you want it

You get releases at lightning speeds that are far better than the ed2k network

DainBramaged
June 16th, 2003, 02:09 AM
Speeds with any BT client are great--I would be surprised if it didn't max out your bandwidth, provided there are fast sources or simply many sources to DL from.

The problem with BT is that people don't leave their clients open long enough, which is fine for broadband users who can get files quickly, but presents a conflict with those on slower connections.

Also, the fact that most torrents are only seeded for a couple weeks can make it difficult to get what you want. Though anime seems to be the exception to the rule--it's not uncommon to see several OLD OLD episodes/series with seed numbers above 50 or 100.

I wish that BT sites would have some sort of naming convention though. With eDonkey, you can eventually decipher what is what and from who and such. But it seems BT is pretty haphazard about it, which is fine I guess. I suppose if the nature of BT were different, or if there were fewer but more complete, universal BT sites, it wouldn't be such a problem. Oh well.

beardedwonder
June 16th, 2003, 02:59 AM
I havenīt used BT that much but the download rates i have been getting are very impressive, always maxing out my connection. I'm using the experimental client, i usually download overnight so i leave the client open all night to upload.

Theinfamousone
June 16th, 2003, 03:12 AM
The speeds are usually pretty good. For some files, you're going to have to play the leave on all night and use patience game, but basically every file I've ever gotten with it would be next to impossible to find, let alone download at all on any other P2P program. I love it. Downloaded a D and Derer screener in one day for instance. But the best is the TV shows. Who needs a tv when you've got www.suprnova.org ?

callz
June 16th, 2003, 11:40 AM
i was suprized yet delighted to see downloads speeds using shareazaa of 700+ kB/s

nasrules
June 16th, 2003, 11:58 AM
When I was on dial-up I often only got a 40k connection although I was using a 56k modem. This often happens, hardly anyone manages to actually connect at 56k. The maximum download speed when connecting at 40k is 5k, so that is probably your problem.

AsianWildAss
June 16th, 2003, 12:08 PM
Ever since using a client that lets me cap my upload speed and give decent info about the ratio/amount of seeders-leechers a file has i can consistently max out my connection.

People who have broadband and have the rest of their system right who say BT sucks are either plain lazy (too lazy to configure their programs) or plain stupid.
If thats the case i'd suggest you better stick with Kazaa and don't start stupid threads!.

Sorry.

AsianWildAss.

DainBramaged
June 16th, 2003, 08:07 PM
Originally posted by Dealie
It DOES work. if it doesnt work for YOU. its NOT the programs fault. figure it out.

Either way.. stop bitching. its pretty funny reading posts about how it doesnt work while 3 bit torrent windows are open and maxing out my cable totally. up and down.

Listen to your own advice. You say for some it works, for some it doesn't. So don't tell people to stop bitching when it works for you, but not for them.