New file sharing idea

[SUprEMeBeiNg]

I heard some friends who have 56k and they whine all the time how long it takes to dl mp3 and i came up with this...

Is it possible to make a prog that shares mp3s that are 32k (really low qual) thus the size would be considerably smaller

the prog encodes the mp3s after you dl them into your "my music" and the 32k version in the my shared folder.

Would this work?

[cpugeniusmv]

it could be done, but the quality would be so unbearable, hardly anyone would use it.

[SUprEMeBeiNg]

no i mean it would be encoded to the level of your choosing when it finished dling

[cpugeniusmv]

enocoding a lower quality file to a higher quality will not improve the quality.

[MoonMan]

Why don't you just download blank .txt files while your at it ? You will get about as much enjoyment.

Tell your friends to shut their mouths, because they are getting free music with almost no skill level required. If they don't like it, tell 'em to prostitute their bodies off in order to pay for broadband.

[Foreverboard]

Originally posted by MoonMan
Why don't you just download blank .txt files while your at it ? You will get about as much enjoyment.

Tell your friends to shut their mouths, because they are getting free music with almost no skill level required. If they don't like it, tell 'em to prostitute their bodies off in order to pay for broadband.



Damn MoonMan, I think you need a hug........

[grab_grab_the_haddock]

Originally posted by SUprEMeBeiNg
no i mean it would be encoded to the level of your choosing when it finished dling

err..yeh like cpugenius said this cant work .

encoding a file to mp3 works by removing sound waves. Once those waves have been removed they can never be put back again.

Think about it, if this were possible, everyone would download their music at a bit rate of 10kbs and then reencode it up to 320 after they downloaded it.

[Evil_Dweller_01]

Originally posted by MoonMan
Why don't you just download blank .txt files while your at it ? You will get about as much enjoyment.

Tell your friends to shut their mouths, because they are getting free music with almost no skill level required. If they don't like it, tell 'em to prostitute their bodies off in order to pay for broadband.

That was so
Beautiful!

*Starts crying from laughter*

[isus]

lol... sorry supreme. while good in theory, it's just not a good idea. that's like dubbing a cd to tape so you can listen to it. the tape will always leave you with static and an empty feeling, but when you listen to the cd, you will be happy.

the better idea would be to either:
a. find a way to compress an mp3 (which can't be done with zip or anything like that) or to
b. find a better way to encode mp3's... like dolby's aac. even though i hear the sound quality sucks, at least someone is trying something different. now let's make it better.

[mrlipring]

Shit man, i was stuck on 56k for years. I downloaded damn near my maximum each day, and i never once complained. Sure, i leapt at the chance to get dsl and cable, but tell your friends to shut up.

If they're that desparate, burn the stuff to cd and post it to them.

[multi]

Originally posted by grab_grab_the_haddock
err..yeh like cpugenius said this cant work .

encoding a file to mp3 works by removing sound waves. Once those waves have been removed they can never be put back again.

Think about it, if this were possible, everyone would download their music at a bit rate of 10kbs and then reencode it up to 320 after they downloaded it.

if a program could be made to do this
that would really be something...is it totally imposible?

[grab_grab_the_haddock]

Originally posted by multi
if a program could be made to do this
that would really be something...is it totally imposible?

yes

[rainbowdemon]

I too subscribe to a 56k isp. But because of the outdated phone system here I can only use about 24k of it. Yes I know this sucks major ass. My only solution to the slow dl problem is to set up 8 or 10 dls before going to bed at night, or before going to work. I have built a collection of about 15 gig this way. Took about a year and a half to do this. Just takes a little patience! :wings

[mrlipring]

hehe :)

that's the best way, queue up LOADS of stuff. if you throw enough shit at a wall...

[isus]

Originally posted by mrlipring
hehe :)

that's the best way, queue up LOADS of stuff. if you throw enough shit at a wall...

lol. when you do that, and they all come thru at once, your modem will almost literally catch fire. more than 3 consecutive dl's cuts my dl bandwidth from 2.5kB to about 1.8... not good.

[mrlipring]

if having too many simultaneous d/ls breaks your connection, just limit the thing to only download 1 or 2 tracks at a time.

and 2.5kB/s is awful, what kinda connection was that?

[matt merch]

lol recoding reminds me of someone who told me they ripped all the 128kbps mp3s to to 192kbps to get a better sound only worth doing if you use dogster

[mrlipring]

youd be surprised at the amount of people that think this kinda stuff is possible. it's frightening.

[matt merch]

Originally posted by mrlipring
if having too many simultaneous d/ls breaks your connection, just limit the thing to only download 1 or 2 tracks at a time.

and 2.5kB/s is awful, what kinda connection was that?

re connection speeds remember a dial up can theoretically hit 6kB/sec but that is theoretical only you have to allow for the quality of wiring on the phone line distance from exchange etc

[eivioolla]

Why don't you transfer them encoded as 0kbps while you're at it. Infinite amount of music in zero time. Afterwards you can decode/reencode them back to super high quality 320kbps.

[matt merch]

Originally posted by eivioolla
Why don't you transfer them encoded as 0kbps while you're at it. Infinite amount of music in zero time. Afterwards you can decode/reencode them back to super high quality 320kbps.

DOGSTER already supports this feature along with the ability to d/l things that don't exist

[mrlipring]

Originally posted by matt merch
re connection speeds remember a dial up can theoretically hit 6kB/sec but that is theoretical only you have to allow for the quality of wiring on the phone line distance from exchange etc

yeah, i know.

maybe it's just where i used to live, but the only people who got anthing like that kinda speed were people whose lines had been dacs'd.

Everyone else got 5k/s+.

still, i've moved and i have cable now. :D

[Mitsugi]

Since the new file sharing idea isn't good.. I'll give an idea.

Make a P2P app which limits files to say 20 mb. upload files to USENET, and people that have incomplete can resume from users(if possible) or request a repost.

All files will look like standard warez-styled distribution or similar: sfv, nfo, multiple rar (or some international standard, patent free compressed archive that allows split into x size)

people would actually wouldn't mind sharing because they aren't required to upload all the time

I don't know alot about USENET so I don't know how anonymous you are when posting files, but the P2P part can use Invisible IRC Project (http://www.invisiblenet.net/iip/), Freenet (http://freenet.sourceforge.net/), or JXTA (http://www.jxta.org/)

Build a community where people rate files as complete, fake, etc.

Since there is warez in USENET anyways, and most ISPs don't censor it, why don't P2P users exploit it? It saves cost to ISP because they don't keep sending the same data outside of their isp.

The bad part would be if RIAA/MPAA/BSA/etc and their equavilant in each country tries to sue all the ISPs, tries to change the law, or request ISP to track who posted what. (is it legal to have one single archive which you may or may not know what is in it?)

As long as your ISP would not censor, or block all binaries, then it would work.

[matt merch]

binaries are cool but the downside is to get decent binaries you normally have to pay for an account as the retention rate for most isps that actually have them is very slacki

[noxiousneo]

thats shit. You cant encode at a higher rate than it actually is. The file would be bigger but would sound the same crappy quality.

-NoX-

[matt merch]

Originally posted by noxiousneo
thats shit. You cant encode at a higher rate than it actually is. The file would be bigger but would sound the same crappy quality.

-NoX-


no shit thats pretty damn obvious