ESV Imposters

[CCSDUDE]

http://forums.es5.com/index.php?act=ST&f=14&t=576&hl=&#entry6409

That's not me an I'm sure that's not notbob either....

Just a heads up incase anyone thinks it's us.

[The Hunter]

thanks for the heads up. I am quite sure the dung will hit the camel.

[Krell]

Man I would pummel that little biotch just for you !

How did you even find out about it?

[The Hunter]

Would John be someone we all know?
Also, have you PMd anyone there about the names?

[CCSDUDE]

Originally posted by Krell
Man I would pummel that little biotch just for you !

How did you even find out about it?

One of the ESV users linked me awhile ago.

Thought it was notbob and me....tried to welcome me and asked why I hadn't posted more.....*shakes his head....*

Edit: Nope hunter...I doubt notbob cares and neither do I....lol

It's obviously some arab dude trying to 'be' both of us.

Krell...your NEXT! Now that would be classic.....Krell...saying please and thank you...in that arab-ish sorta way.

[The Hunter]

I will give them a head to shake.

[Evil_Dweller_01]

Smack em up now Smack em up!

Powerade commercial :hole

[chipperrox]

In this situation, I would like to reply with a quote from Monty Python.

"She's a WITCH! Burn HER!"

[The Hunter]

Shit i had to register just to give them my opinion. Now i need a shower.

[CCSDUDE]

Originally posted by The Hunter
Shit i had to register just to give them my opinion. Now i need a shower.

*backs away* I'm not rubbing you down with a lufa....no fuckin' way! lol

Edit: An now they've cloned wingnut.....if that's him I'll be damned cuz that tard sounds nothing like wingnut....

Oh goodie....

Krell I spoke to soon... - http://forums.es5.com/index.php?act=Profile&CODE=03&MID=2834

[Crazy Horse]

Looked through their member list and my name is in there too.:shoot

[Ken17625]

What? No Ken imposters?

Don't flatter yourself Ken.

Why not?

Because its pathetic.

Stop talking about me like that?

Shut up asshole.

No, you shut up.

No you.

You!!

YOU!!

[The Hunter]

John has asked me to accept his appologies, and I have requested him to make a public statement about these clones.

[Evil_Dweller_01]

That's just wrong.. just because they weren't allowed to freaking advertise their es5 crap on zp doesn't mean they have to retalliate by doing such idiotic things...

Sad bunch of people.. real sad

[Sephiroth]

It gets much better...

Heres other registered people usernames i found there.. If you really did register there then let me know and ill take your username off.. Some people who havent posted here in a while is in the list too. I also probably missed some people too..

In no particular order..

Wingnut2600 (http://forums.es5.com/index.php?act=Profile&CODE=03&MID=2903)
topmanjafar (http://forums.es5.com/index.php?act=Profile&CODE=03&MID=2737)
theinfamousone (http://forums.es5.com/index.php?act=Profile&CODE=03&MID=1462)
TFoS_Fan (http://forums.es5.com/index.php?act=Profile&CODE=03&MID=2039)
ryan2_2 (http://forums.es5.com/index.php?act=Profile&CODE=03&MID=230)
rickio (http://forums.es5.com/index.php?act=Profile&CODE=03&MID=2759)
PowerMan572 (http://forums.es5.com/index.php?act=Profile&CODE=03&MID=2497)
Music Pirate (http://forums.es5.com/index.php?act=Profile&CODE=03&MID=473)
method77 (http://forums.es5.com/index.php?act=Profile&CODE=03&MID=2400)
Krell (http://forums.es5.com/index.php?act=Profile&CODE=03&MID=2834)
JiMiThInG (http://forums.es5.com/index.php?act=Profile&CODE=03&MID=2469)
endersgame21 (http://forums.es5.com/index.php?act=Profile&CODE=03&MID=2433)
DETROIT (http://forums.es5.com/index.php?act=Profile&CODE=03&MID=2021)
Crazy Horse (http://forums.es5.com/index.php?act=Profile&CODE=03&MID=69)

Note since somehow my username was register i registered it anyways so whoever couldnt get it.. I dunno why not me but if i see any es5 people around they better explain what the hell is going on.

[Ken17625]

Hmm, there is a Ken, but no Ken17625!! And this Ken doesn't have my avatar.

I guess the numbers turned them off!!

See that, 17625 makes good fucktard replellent!!!

[method77]

damn
i was registered too!
link (http://forums.es5.com/index.php?act=Profile&CODE=03&MID=2400)

[Sockfulloflove]

i see a lot of ZPers on there. :mellow

[The Hunter]

Seph i did register tonight, just to respond to this.
Also they were told to correct this problem, or I would respond appropriatly.

[CCSDUDE]

Originally posted by Sephiroth
It gets much better...

Heres other registered people usernames i found there.. If you really did register there then let me know and ill take your username off.. Some people who havent posted here in a while is in the list too. I also probably missed some people too..

In no particular order..

Wingnut2600 (http://forums.es5.com/index.php?act=Profile&CODE=03&MID=2903)
topmanjafar (http://forums.es5.com/index.php?act=Profile&CODE=03&MID=2737)
theinfamousone (http://forums.es5.com/index.php?act=Profile&CODE=03&MID=1462)
The Hunter (http://forums.es5.com/index.php?act=Profile&CODE=03&MID=2904)
TFoS_Fan (http://forums.es5.com/index.php?act=Profile&CODE=03&MID=2039)
ryan2_2 (http://forums.es5.com/index.php?act=Profile&CODE=03&MID=230)
rickio (http://forums.es5.com/index.php?act=Profile&CODE=03&MID=2759)
Psilaxs (http://forums.es5.com/index.php?act=Profile&CODE=03&MID=31)
PowerMan572 (http://forums.es5.com/index.php?act=Profile&CODE=03&MID=2497)
Music Pirate (http://forums.es5.com/index.php?act=Profile&CODE=03&MID=473)
method77 (http://forums.es5.com/index.php?act=Profile&CODE=03&MID=2400)
Krell (http://forums.es5.com/index.php?act=Profile&CODE=03&MID=2834)
JiMiThInG (http://forums.es5.com/index.php?act=Profile&CODE=03&MID=2469)
endersgame21 (http://forums.es5.com/index.php?act=Profile&CODE=03&MID=2433)
DETROIT (http://forums.es5.com/index.php?act=Profile&CODE=03&MID=2021)
Crazy Horse (http://forums.es5.com/index.php?act=Profile&CODE=03&MID=69)

Note since somehow my username was register i registered it anyways so whoever couldnt get it.. I dunno why not me but if i see any es5 people around they better explain what the hell is going on.

I usually don't say this....but nice work Seph!

I think Psi actually signed up over there....a load of posts and some do sound like him. Plus the avatar isn't just a copy.

[Krell]

It's CLOBBERIN Time !



Who ever runs that site couldnt possibly think that we would all sign up. Not us.

[The Hunter]

I am waiting for a reply to my post as I speak.

[crackerjacker]

lmao
i was bored i registered all of your names
*not*
couldnt they find out whom did this by the ip range for validation purposes?
lol
*isnt on the list*
but a crackityjones is

that suks
they must love u guys
woot woot

[The Hunter]

I have had no responses to my post. I warned them that I would not be responsible for our our members responses, but I would be responsible any of there members getting the proper treatment here.

[crackerjacker]

um seems to me they probably had a lot of time on there hands or perhaps maybe it doesnt take so much time to copy and paste a bunch of names to a database and such to increase the amount of members there. whomever did it is fukin lame.

*becomes a target* wonders what my name going to be crackerjackerthebacker?heh fukin hilarious

btw
*pab*

[Psilaxs]

Nope thats the real me.

I like it over there, only rules are, No unjust flaiming, no kiddy porn anything. no racial remarks (if not in the context of joking).

Warez request are allowed, serial request and post are allowed, and the ESV crew take request on what you want, and do a pretty good job of delivering.


Hasnt been any arguments over there('cept for one, but it turned out ok), and political discussion is MUCH more civilized over there then here.

Just a friendlier atmosphere over there.

[Krell]

WAS



was more friendly, you all shouldnt have let someone sign up with all the zero paid names, now its paybacks.

[Winphuk]

I just registered my name to play it safe. If you see any numbers next to it or if it's spelled different, then it's not me.

[The Hunter]

Ok, John promised to make a public statement about this to clear things up.
Oops, almost forgot, a echo, nice work Seph. You dont get enough of those.

[Psilaxs]

Who is John?

[serrebi101]

that's wierd, I signed up, and my pass doesn't work? I guess, somehow the cookies were gone, except I never removed them, and my pass, I remember using doesn't work? o well, im gonna get my pass, and see if it's the same, its just wierd that I can't log in with my usual pass,,,

[MoonMan]

Add mojo-ris-in to the list, but besides a few stupid moon names, no me (I checked :P).

I say we crucify them for these atrocious actions of placing all of our usernames into bondage. Quickly, get the pitch forks and torches.

[Winphuk]

By the way CCS, thanx for spotting that out. Good call.

[The Hunter]

He appears to be one of the head posters over there. Also He has been asked to post a statement about this problem on their forums,here,and TecTalk. This is because we have many members on both sites.

[The Hunter]

new news, a retraction has been posted, but just about CCS, and notbob. Any others should PM John and let him know. These names will be removed. Also it is being proposed that all members have to be verified. Any other members with similar problems, just report them and let me know how you make out.

[serrebi101]

I saw a thred, after reactivating my acount[is 2 days really that long?] and then entering my pasword like 5 times before it worked, logging in, and I saw the thred, John only mentioned zp, not any other site, I only noticed names from zp from that thred link above.

[Wolfie]

Just let you know I am registered there but have different avatar than the ones i had here. I haven't posted there since I stop beta testing though.

[Krell]

Do I understand this correctly, I have to go there, sign up to freakin log in to freakin request that my name gets freakin taken off?

Some ones got to pay.

[The Hunter]

Sorry bud, but i am doing the best I can, as we have some members that have actually registered there, it is not going to get easier.

[johnboy5501]

Hey John at ES5 is me. I have notified the Board admin and things will be taken care of so don't worry.
I have no idea who is doing this, and neither does anyone else. Could it be that zero pain?
I don't see whats the fun in doing this but things should sorted out quick. The board admin is a real nice guy, and he usually will take care of things as long as you address it.
Theres alot of dedication to the forums at ES5, thats for sure. You can ask anyone including Psilax.

[The Hunter]

I figured that out pretty quick, but i do thank you for the fast reply, and all the help.

[johnboy5501]

Hunter could you provide a link to the tec talk forums cus I've never heard of it. I'll address the problem there too. Is it necessary for me to start a new thread here?

[The Hunter]

Gladly.http://www.pctechtalk.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=11259
There you go.
No you dont need a new thread, as i have started one already.

[johnboy5501]

Done.

[alliercollins]

It's going to be kind of hard to determine who meant to sign up and whos' name was faked. I go as far back as anyone on those boards, but still haven't posted :)

It isn't easy being a lerker...

There are probably three solutions to this:
1 - Everyone check to see if there name is there, if it is and you didn't sign up, then send an email or a pm to the board admin.

2 - Have the board admin check names against Zeropaid names. That could be exhausting and it might get a lot of people taken off the board that signed up in the first place.

3 - Have the admin unregister everyone and start over, could be the fastest way, but #1 is probably the best.

[johnboy5501]

the first step is the best
Everyone do a member search for your own name. If your name appears and you know you haven't registered then inform the board admin

[The Hunter]

John, thank you for the fast responsense.

[MoonMan]

John I can relate to your current situation as something similar happened with ZP IRC chat. As hectic as that was, I (with MASSIVE help from grab_grab and the admins as well as a few others) did overcome it. I wish you luck.

[johnboy5501]

yeah thanks. I'm sure something will be done. The members that are falsely registered dont even have that many posts showing that they're pretty much inactive. So we'll prob end up getting rid of them once and once only.
But please, everyone do a search of their own name and see if it appears... remember that when you do a search select member name "contains with"

[notbob]

i find it hilarious that they need our names and avatars to get any sort of credibility

(especially mine, as i have had nothing good to say about them EVER)

it made my day that the only real psts were made by our pal johnnyboy

i laughed my ass off at that one

[johnboy5501]

only real post at es5 was made by me?
There are alot of active members there, look again

[notbob]

Originally posted by johnboy5501
only real post at es5 was made by me?
There are alot of active members there, look again
i looked at the thread

i'm not looking at any more than that

i mean real guys from here (not real guys in general)

[johnboy5501]

oh i see. Well that was one thread, the one that is left out in the forum. Other threads get lots of views and lots of replies. Besides, that thread you won't see again has replies by moonman and the hunter now :)

[johnboy5501]

I have submitted this as news to make people aware and have them verify their names at es5. If any of you are ZP news moderator, i suggest you exceptionally pass this as news.

[.::BeatFactory::.]

update... not that anyone cared to look but I am there too...
".::BeatFactory::." (http://forums.es5.com/index.php?act=Profile&CODE=03&MID=1189) apparently registered Mar 17 2003, 01:05 PM with Total Posts: 0 ( % of total forum posts ) , his/her local time is one hour ahead of my actual time, and he/her does not have my avatar (I recently have changed it a lot, but I'm back with this one again)

It's funny that I have 0 posts in over 2 months.:hole

[The Hunter]

John just so you know i just joined, and posted there to bring things to a head. Not to cause any problems, but rather to settle them. Point being that i probably will not post there anymore, unless we have more problems. Respectfully yours.

[Krell]

WHAT and put this little prick on the front page?

I say delete the accounts, and keep an eye out, Im still lookin to kick someone in the nuts.

johnboy5501 thx for handling this

[johnboy5501]

no problem. And I thank you in fact too. If you hadn't brought this up then people would start to blame ES5 for purposely registereing ZP members. But instead you've taken the rightful measure to prevent that action and also to keep ZP members where they want to be.
BTW, could you pass the news i submitted so we could accelerate the process of having people check for their names?
Thanks Hunter for your help

[MoonMan]

Originally posted by johnboy5501
I have submitted this as news to make people aware and have them verify their names at es5. If any of you are ZP news moderator, i suggest you exceptionally pass this as news.

I'm not sure that is appropriate for news so I am not passing it through (no offense). I suggest the other news mods not publish it either (I can't control what they do though).

[alliercollins]

What's wrong with giving people a heads up about this? I am sure not everyone will read this thread.

[johnboy5501]

yeah thats my concern. Not many people read this thread and therefore not many will verify.
I guess i could try sending frequent posters at ZP PMs for them to check but that would take a while.

[The Hunter]

i soon have to go for the night, but it could be stickied, what do you say krell? We can always remove it later.

[johnboy5501]

yeah it could be stickied and rename the thread to "Check your name at es5" or something to that relevance
got to go for the night too. Hope this can be resolved tommorrow.

[notbob]

a good way to get some page views at esv though isn't it?

invent a news story and then get everyone to come over and look, get some free press on zp etc.

[The Hunter]

It has been stickied, and any mod available, can retitle it as they see fit, as for now it will serve the purpose.

[Krell]

Im gonna circumcise the little bastard with a meat cleaver.

Yah I say sticky is fine, or just make a short post with a nominal explaination to sticky.

[wingnut2600]

and passed it over since I just don't care about ESV, but I decided to check it out on a whim...

I found a false wingnut2600 right below the CCS and Notbob posts... I feel flattered to be impersonated yet again... I did notice though that there is no YodaShady... makes me suspicious... it usually is his fault and he does love to spam everything that he can...

[endersgame21]

I also found cpugeniusmv in the memeber list. I am not sure if he actually registered or if it is fake. And sephiroth, how did you find all those names. Jeez, you have no life. But seriously, nice work. We appreciate it and we appreciate your help also johnboy.

[Mel_Smiley]

I never get a clone. Dont make me go buy a gun. Clone me now, post some retarded stuff and everyone will have no problem believing its me. Send in the clones




Nix this as news. Who ever did this is just wanting attention. I will not say anything bad about es5 though I really, really want too.

[Psilaxs]

Originally posted by Mel_Smiley
I never get a clone. Dont make me go buy a gun. Clone me now, post some retarded stuff and everyone will have no problem believing its me. Send in the clones




Nix this as news. Who ever did this is just wanting attention. I will not say anything bad about es5 though I really, really want too.

Like it is there fault? They cannot help it if some one like zeropain or whom ever spams msg boards.

But to lay this upon ESV is wrong in its haste.

[Mel_Smiley]

Hence, I didnt say anything bad about es5. lol

[MoonMan]

Hey does anyone else think that this has been blown way out of proportion ? Something a good friend on IRC told me when he read the thread was "it's not like Zeropaid owns the internet". If any of you really cared about your nicks on the ESV forums, you would have already registered them. True it's more than just taking the nicks since they are using the same avatars and signatures as posters here.. but it's not like you own the name.

Johnboy who seems to really like the esv boards would have done better to PM everyone who he recognised from ZP asking it if was really them, and warning them that they are being copied on another forum rather than posting a thread. Whoever registered the usernames is probably laughing his ass off at some of the responses in this thread.. we fell right into his sink hole.

I say leave the thread stickied, but drop the subject. All we've really done is fuel the imposter's fire. (This is my opinion, please don't go jumping on me for stating it.)

[Krell]

Uhhh yah, I change my answer to that one !

[johnboy5501]

you're right moonman. And who else he agrees with notbob that this is ES5's way of getting more page views? Is it just me or has it not already been mentioned that the cause of this is not ES5 but someone out their control.
Who cares about page view. I'm not even concerned with that notbob, and neither is anyone else but you. All i ask for is to make my job a little easier and search for your name if you're concerned about it. Its not like I'm thinking "YES page views! My precious precious page views!!!" rofl....Just asking for help thats all

[ProShare]

Hi Everybody,

I'm SharePro, the ESV @dmin.

First and foremost, this is not shit promoted by ES5.

I got a PM from John about this subject today. As I told him, I'll check into it. I first need to establish that the purpose of using anothers name is to impersonate them, and/or to do damage to ESV. I dont know enough about "ccdude" or "notbob" (whether they be the ESV or ZP members to even have an opinion)

Registering a name here on ZP or at ESV is on a first come first serve basis. As an example, I cannot register at ZP under my alias 'SharePro' because the name has already been reserved.

However, I will check into the allegations, because if the real purpose is to impersonate another, or cause damage to ESV, then we dont want those type of people on our forum, and if I catch it, then I will ban the person back to no where land.

If the purpose of this thread is to find cooperation, then you should have just PM'd me on my board. I've asked people in the past not to bring ESV updates to ZP because I know the history, and I hate flame.

Comments like "ESV promotes clones or is trying to take ZP traffic" are pure bullshit by senseless people.

Please understand, I cant just reserve specific names or tell people they can't use certain names cause ZP or whoever has certain 'reservations' or an agenda. ESV has it's own agenda and the ES5 forum is part of our P2P program. We also have a chat system and the same rules apply.

ES5's "Ccdude" and "notbob" had registered those names a couple of weeks ago, and this is the first time I have heard something fishy about them.

Until now, both accounts Ccdude and Notbob have not flamed or spammed our board, nor have they or anybody else said anything about ZP on our ESV board. So again, the claim about ESV being a part of this shit is pure bullshit.

If the purpose of those or any account for that matter is to use the names and accounts as regular users, than dont expect me to just delete or ban our esv user accounts because ZP feels they have a copyright on the names. That's not fair to my users, and yes, I do have a responsibility to my users. You all know that ZP and ESV doesnt hand out names to use, rather people pick their own names.

ZP doesnt index my board looking for users names that are already taken and tell you guys that you can't use a specific name cause its already reserved on ESV.

I dont regularly post here at ZP. If the owner of this board, or a Mod, would like to contact me and figure out a way to respect eachothers boards, then I am more than willing to assist and perhaps compremise.

Perhaps we could form a system to protect 'Respected Members' names who have over a certain amount of posts with special regard to the date they registered their name.

Otherwise, I ask you...Should I spend 100 hours indexing all ZP users names against the ESV members names only to delete my own users answering to similar names of ZP users because ZP tells me to?

Instead of opening up stupid threads that overall just send us more traffic, and increases our membership, you guys should have just PM'd me.

I am not going to turn into the RIAA and send stupid letters to my users asking them if they are real or a clone or giving them a certain amount of time to answer or prove their identity. We pride ourselves in the field of security and our users identities are 100% confidential.

So again, I invite the ZP owner to enlighten me on how we can put a stop to this kind of shit, and I'll do my best to cooperate, but the racial comments about arabs that I read earlier in this thread is way out of line and only damages any type of cooperation between our staff and your staff.

Please PM me if you have any constructive ideas.
SharePro
http://forums.es5.com

[nasrules]

I'm registered now. As if I'm important enough for someone to want to clone me!

Man, I'm doing a Ken! Flattering myself ALL the time! :-D

[Sephiroth]

Originally posted by MoonMan
Hey does anyone else think that this has been blown way out of proportion ? Something a good friend on IRC told me when he read the thread was "it's not like Zeropaid owns the internet". If any of you really cared about your nicks on the ESV forums, you would have already registered them.

Whoever registered the usernames is probably laughing his ass off at some of the responses in this thread.. we fell right into his sink hole.

Some are probably taking it too seriously.. Still though it is fishy and at least it should be looked at to see what is going on which is more important than the nicknames.

IMHO its the same person doing all of them.. So people should blame that person and it would be wrong to blame the forum. Im not going to hold all of ESV responisble for what the 3-4 spammers did here and no one else really should either.

Probably someone who was kicked off here using a different forum to futher their grudge oir someone who just wants to start shit.

As for what they think.. Why care? Really why worry about what some immature jackass thinks all the time.

[Monyak]

This has definately gotta be National Lampoons most hilarious thread I've read on ZP.

I mean ZP is now intimidated by ESV and their members?

C'mon, I mean how can ESV be responsible for what names a user chooses. I truly doubt that ESV has anything to do with this. Very few people even mention ZP on their forum.

This is probably the work of a disgrunted ZP member who went over to ESV after he was banned here and registered the accounts, and meanwhile everybody is blaming ESV.

Instead of opening up stupid threads that overall just send us more traffic, and increases our membership, you guys should have just PM'd me.

I can't agree more. Why didnt anybody PM their Mods?

In under 24 hours, this thread has received over 6 pages of non-stop activity. ESV doesnt need ZP advertising, it's enough that you say "ESV" here or anywhere and everybody posts non-stop comments filling up the board with activity. They bring traffic to ZP, not the other way around because every ESV thread gets mass traffic.

ESV has a good following and responsible staff working their forum so again, I truly doubt that they are responsible. Take a look around their forum and you will see that their users dont flame eachother and their board is full of interesting posts without any spam. So before you blame them, take a look at their board and then do some homework on the ZP board.

I think that if you want to find the idiot who registered the accounts, ask yourselves who ZP banned the specific day that those accounts were opened.

PeAcE

[Krell]

I mean ZP is now intimidated by ESV and their members? Dont start Monyak, no one said that anyone was intimidated, we said we were pissed by an imposter.

This is probably the work of a disgrunted ZP member who went over to ESV after he was banned here and registered the accounts, and meanwhile everybody is blaming ESV.
Yah thx for pointing that out to us, It is probably one of the long time problem people, who have been a problem not only here but other sites too, and as sephiroth stated is probably the same person. Everyone is not blaming ESV.

So before you blame them, take a look at their board and then do some homework on the ZP board. I dont see where anyone seriously blamed ESV, we just dont like it, that's different. Now why dont you be done with the official spokesman for ESV gig?

If we have anything further to sort out it will be with ProShare, unless you are playing ambassador for him behind the scenes, which I strongly doubt.

And btw, dont offer suggestions as to what we need to do, we have figured out a whole lot without your input Sherlock.


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[vipp]

The fact that someone may have the same user name is not a great big deal. There are millions of people on the net.

The difference here, is that person is obviously pretending to be you guys. Copying everything, posing as you.

IMO, that is totally wrong, and any respectable board admin would delete those accounts.

[vipp]

Well shit. Now I'm all paranoid, so I registered too. LOL :cross

[Crazy Horse]

This must have been some lame plot to get us to sign up and from the looks of it - it worked. Yea me too.

[vipp]

Doesn't mean we'll post there. :;)

[The Hunter]

Notice, as this thread has outlived its usefulness, of letting our members know what was going on it is being closed. Also any further problems are between the members, and the ES5 forums.