WinMX: Queuing Madness!!!

[MistahMan]

Good god, WinMx has turned into QueuingMX. I hope this is something they fix in later versions. It's all good finding loads of file, It would be nice to be able to get them too...

[Mel_Smiley]

Did you try quickmx? http://napsterite.org/QuickMX/ it helps but your still gonna get ques. Just start it up and go to sleep or do somthing else besides staring at the screen. A watched pot never boils

[MistahMan]

Thanks for the tips.

[Mel_Smiley]

Hope it helps out Mistah.

[nip]

Or try MxMonitor

http://www3.to/mxmonitor

[Evil_Dweller_01]

Originally posted by nip
Or try MxMonitor

http://www3.to/mxmonitor

Yes get that. but it has nothing to do with the topic lol

That's to help keep leeches from your queues so worthy people can download...

[Undermind]

I'm still wating for the day when I can just send files anywhere using my mind instead of all these clunky file sharing apps

[Nothingface5384]

why does every1 always complain about winmx's ques...if your gonna complain about qwaiitng in que try out soulseek and edonkey heh..far more worse then winmx que line

mxlinx also will work so will the hammer..just google it ;)

[isus]

i made a post in a thread, i think 'the definitive: winmx vs. kazaa' about queues... search for it.

[broadwayrock]

If you share a decent amount of files: 1 gig+

sharing similar types of files (regardless of trading) ie: share movies when downloading movies you will find that the user might start you up early.

People who share little amount of files, mostly incomplete files and non related files tend to stay in queues forever.

I also find a karma thing going on in winmx, if you're polite: thanking people for files etc helps alot.

Afterall its mostly greedy leeches who take up the majority of the queues.

With programs like leechhammer they help prevent the queue problems. But there seems to be a cleverer breed of leecher.

One who encripts their files so no user can tell what files they are, and the type who uses a firewall to block users from downloading off them.

[Evil_Dweller_01]

Yes.. that's true

If you are downloading a rare song and all you have are some crappy pop songs.. forget about it

[Mel_Smiley]

Originally posted by broadwayrock
If you share a decent amount of files: 1 gig+

sharing similar types of files (regardless of trading) ie: share movies when downloading movies you will find that the user might start you up early.

People who share little amount of files, mostly incomplete files and non related files tend to stay in queues forever.

I also find a karma thing going on in winmx, if you're polite: thanking people for files etc helps alot.

Afterall its mostly greedy leeches who take up the majority of the queues.

With programs like leechhammer they help prevent the queue problems. But there seems to be a cleverer breed of leecher.

One who encripts their files so no user can tell what files they are, and the type who uses a firewall to block users from downloading off them.


That is so true. I actually have an external hardrive I use when using winmx so I can change what Im sharing around easley to get what i want. Thus when im looking for cartoons I share only cartoons, looking for porn, I only share porn and so forth and so on. This is KEY

[MAtT_Zero]

seems like some people need to check the difference between "sharing" and "trading" in the dictionary.

If there's one thing ruining P2P systems more than "leechers"; it's do-gooder anti-leechers.

[Mel_Smiley]

What does Winmx have do with sharing???? lol

[isus]

Originally posted by MAtT_Zero
seems like some people need to check the difference between "sharing" and "trading" in the dictionary.

If there's one thing ruining P2P systems more than "leechers"; it's do-gooder anti-leechers.

you hafta be about as drunk as a monkey to say that.

it's only true for people who are dl'ing their very first file. if i see 1 file in their library, that is the same type as what they are dl'ing, i let them continue.

but since all file sharing apps share the incomplete folder, and they are sharing 0... that means they moved their completed files out of the folder so they wouldn't be sharing.

leeches hurt networks a helluva lot more than 'anti-leeches'

[nip]

Originally posted by Evil_Dweller_01
Yes get that. but it has nothing to do with the topic lol

That's to help keep leeches from your queues so worthy people can download...
- Mx Monitor has a function to give priority to small files or your chosen extensions (.mp3, .zip etc.)

- It has an auto-trade option

[trinio]

Leechers are a big problem. I ban everyone with no files shared. If they have a legit reason or they're unaware (it's happened, I don't know how), or they have some other reason to think the ban is unjust then they'll usually message me and ask why. I'm always happy to tell them and happy to discuss ways to remove them from the ban list. I may be an anti-leech do-gooder, but last time I checked, this was a file-SHARING program, not a file-LEECHING program. I see all these huge queues and I hate to think how many leechers are making those queues so big.

However, I beat some queues every day. How? Some suggestions:

Share high-quality, properly-labeled FULL ALBUMS. Be organized. Put not just the artist and song title but album title and track # too. It's a lot easier for those collecting full albums. Don't just share single tracks of Top40 artists.

Message ppl, if your P2P has that feature. Thank them for the files you've downloaded. Discuss music opinions & have some good conversation. I've started peoples' downloads just from doing this--simply because I thought they were cool.

Let's say you are just starting out and you've never downloaded mp3s before and these are your honest-to-God FIRST mp3s. You don't have much to share from the get-go. RIP some of your own CDs. Honestly, if you're computer literate enough to download, install, and set up a P2P program, you won't find CD ripping software any harder.

Get a bigger harddrive to store more files. Lately in my area, good brand 120 GB HDs have gone for roughly a dollar a Gig. Really--if you have the money for a computer updated enough to be able to download (or hell, do anything these days), then you have the measly $100-$140 to pop for an additional drive. If you don't have it on hand, do something unusual in our society--SAVE for it. (!)

Ask nicely to be added to ppls' buddy lists if your P2P has that feature, too. I've stumbled on many a treasure trove this way that otherwise would not have been opened to me because they share with their user-list only. (There are very legitimate reasons for doing that.) I've also gotten lots of preferred downloading from people with great collections that otherwise had huge queues.

Part B to the above is that you must have something to offer. You can't be sharing next to nothing and be on a crawlingly slow connection and ask for preferred status. You generally won't get it. Have some type of broadband (or manage your dial-up bandwidth well), and have the type of collection listed above.

Hopefully this helps.

[Lamourlady]

queues again! DOH!
firstly, i will take myself as an example.
i can sit and watch the peeps starting to line up.
and i think to myself that the files they want from me r some of the latest pop or rap......(16 year old daughter).....and wonder why they r in queue at all.
especially when i can do a search on the same exact artist and see all kinds of "available" files without anyone in queue.
the only answer i could give myself is that these r peeps with broadband, who have just queued up about 20 songs and let them ride.
they don't care about the queues, they aren't going to sit there and watch how long it takes to get, they just want it and know that most of the other peeps in line r broadband and once the dls start, they will go pretty quickly...and once their dl starts it also will be done in no time.
so unless the song u r looking for is very rare, i can't understand why anyone has to wait in queue. for a rare one, it is worth it.....especially if only the one person has that file and u want it pronto.
please peeps.......click the "place available files on top" and u will see that yes there r queues but there r also available files all the time, as well.

rock on! ;)

[Evil_Dweller_01]

Originally posted by Mel_Smiley
Leechers arent winmxs problem, all networks have leeches, its just how the download system works. Winmx's multisourcing works different than any other program. Even if your multisourcing one file, I.E. getting a 2 or more source download, you will stay connected to all sources(assuming the user doesnt cancle you) until you finish the file. For music this can suck. If a person sharing movies and songs has a rare song you want, you could wait a very long time. On the other hand for huge files winmx is awesome. I hope they never change the que system

The lack of requesting chunks for files and leechers...
Those are the two main reasons winmx has those kinds of queues

WHERE IN THE WORLD IS THAT NEW VERSION GOD DAMNIT!

[rainbowdemon]

You have made some very good points. Well put also. I would like to elaborate on one of them. A larger hd is an excellent idea for file-sharing, but not everybody is knowlegeble enough for this. What I did was buy a 40 gig external hd. It was just a matter of plugging it in to a ubs port. Very easy.

[Cleric]

I have tried many many file sharing apps. WinMX has always drove me CrAzY. I am happy for those of you that love it so much. I really am, its good to find an app that is just what your looking for.

For me? I think QueMX is the best name I have heard in a long time.
Any app can download your files while you sleep. So what would be the point:mellow

[Induna]

Isus will desperately defend WinMX until the network only consists of him and a million leechers lol.

Give up, WInMX is lousy. I urge everybody who's disappointed with WinMX's promise of delivering the goods to try Soulseek.

http://www.slsk.com

[Evil_Dweller_01]

Originally posted by Induna
Isus will desperately defend WinMX until the network only consists of him and a million leechers lol.

Give up, WInMX is lousy. I urge everybody who's disappointed with WinMX's promise of delivering the goods to try Soulseek.

http://www.slsk.com

Please...Isus isn't defending it because he feels he needs too..
He's defending it because he is trying to prove that if you KNOW HOW TO use Winmx it will work great for you..

Most of you don't seem to understand that...I know how to use it and it works great for me, newbies dont know how and they get stuck in queues...

[Lamourlady]

Originally posted by Evil_Dweller_01
Please...Isus isn't defending it because he feels he needs too..
He's defending it because he is trying to prove that if you KNOW HOW TO use Winmx it will work great for you..

Most of you don't seem to understand that...I know how to use it and it works great for me, newbies dont know how and they get stuck in queues...

yeah!
agreed.
if winmx is just too difficult for u to figure out, by all means...go where everybody else goes......kazaa.
seems to me it is obvious that none of these newbs used Napster. which if they did, then winmx wouldn't be such a problem.

btw, can't wait for the new version.

[Induna]

That's just a cop-out and you know it. You've contradicted yourself by saying that WinMX's queuing problems is mostly to do with leeches, then saying it's the newbies who don't know how to use it. I'm sure there is a percentage of new users who don't know how to configure WinMX, but there is an underlying problem with WinMX that's been ongoing for a while now, and I doubt it's because of newbies. No, it's because WinMX has a higher ratio of file-sharers - leeches. If that happens then the results are massive queues.

At Soulseek the atmosphere is different, more communtity based, as you join rooms you can chat to a whole group of people if you're looking for a particually hard-to-find track. Most people will help you out.

Soulseek is how WinMX should be.

[Lamourlady]

well, i'd say it is a mixture of both.
don't be hurt by our opinions.
they r just our opinions.
we get everything we need and wonder why others r having such problems......it's quite the mystery to me, really.
as to soulseek.....groovy i'm sure.
is it what winmx should be?
i don't know.
i've never used it and don't plan on it.
either way, use what turns your crank, okay?
and with the new version Winmx can only improve.

[MacGyver]

I really dont think WinMx is that bad on ques. Especially for mainstream music. I personally judge an application on how hard it is to find the rare techno club music I personally like.

[rainbowdemon]

Originally posted by MacGyver
I really dont think WinMx is that bad on ques. Especially for mainstream music. I personally judge an application on how hard it is to find the rare techno club music I personally like. My tastes tend toward classic rock from the late 70's. WinMx has been fairly good for this, but with a few suggestions from the fine folks at ZP it's better now!!:fire :fire Love the bouncing frog!!!!!!

[Mel_Smiley]

Winmx just doesnt work for some people, i really dont nkow why. I had a freind instal it on his computer and it sucks. searches are slow and the ques never start. Why is that? He's on DSL. Is this some kinda firewall/ router problem that makes winmx useless for some?

[DETROIT]

O.K. WinMx does not look the best but when it comes to results WinMx gets it everytime. When it comes to P2P programs I dont want looks I want results. There's nothing better! I run 56k hardly ever in Q for anything if you know how to get around it.

P.S. Q's are not the problem the users are Share your stuff it's free!:fire

[The Hunter]

Detroit, I was preaching that back when Caitlyn Marble still came here. I still use it, and it gets me a hell of a lot of files. Just share, I allot a certain amout of bandwidth, and I always start a certain amount of 56Kers to keep things rolling. I am one of the lucky ones, and have a lot of bandwidth to play with, but I make it a priority to make sure I share with a certain amount of people on phone lines. Commonly i go with about 10 uploads, throttled at 40K, depending on the file size, and the speed the others have available.

[DETROIT]

Originally posted by The Hunter
Detroit, I was preaching that back when Caitlyn Marble still came here. I still use it, and it gets me a hell of a lot of files. Just share, I allot a certain amout of bandwidth, and I always start a certain amount of 56Kers to keep things rolling. I am one of the lucky ones, and have a lot of bandwidth to play with, but I make it a priority to make sure I share with a certain amount of people on phone lines. Commonly i go with about 10 uploads, throttled at 40K, depending on the file size, and the speed the others have available. Good Job Nice to hear that. I will be getting Cable In August. Keep up the good work!:wings

[Cleric]

Ok, though my user here is newbie, I am no newbie when it comes to P2P.

No I dont use Kazaa, I have Kazaa lite installed, I can say that for somethings, Kazaa is easy to use ( Straight forward ) and as long as you look for the filename to make sure it matches you can more than not get what your looking for and quickly.

But believe me, Kazaa has SOOO many bogust files being passed around it really is turning (IS) crap. I know I sound contradictory, and I am when Kazaa is concerned.

I have been going torrent for a while here and much much happier than I have ever been with Kazaa,imesh etc...

Burst ,torrentspy,Shareaza,bearshare and edonkey have been a learning experience to say the least. Though I did manage to download a 350 meg file using shareaza last night in about 20 minutes. NO LIE< swear to god. Downloading a torrent

If you guys say that learning to work around WinMX can give me more than just a giant que wallpaper, I will try it again and learn more on how to use it.
Im not one thats loyal due to name, only to performance. I am also always willing to admit where I was either too stupid,lazy or both to learn an app to get better perfomance.

Love the reviews and suggestions, who needs review sites when you have ZEROPAID>>


:shoot :ass

[The Hunter]

Note, a PM about being a zeropaid member, might just piq someones thoughts, and as well as getting another person here, might also teach them how to use the program.

[Cleric]

Here Here..

:wings

[DETROIT]

When I installed WinMX about 3 years ago I hated it because I did not understand it. I reinstalled about 2 years ago tinkered with it for a while. I really wanted to understand it when all this stuff started with Kazaa. You know because its not centralized My brother as cable it totally sucks for him.

Peace!.

[The Hunter]

As in all things, when the greed leaves, the sharing begins, and that is how it all started. Now lets get them files moving.

[DETROIT]

I second that!!!!!!:fire :hole :hole

[Lamourlady]

i will state that winmx is getting it's share of phony files, as well.
probably not as bad as kazaa or the others.
it is one of the more low-keyed apps, as far as the media.
for anyone who wants to tweak their winmx to work better and faster , u can always scan through older threads here in the forums or u can go here (http://www.winmxcommunity.com), where it is devoted to the winmx app. u could do some searches/inquiring over there.

[NDGAARONDI]

Well I managed to download a theme tune that only AG had, and didn't d/l as it went down, and got it off WinMX, finished downloading, checked it, was great and real. Tried searching for it again sometimes after a few days, never saw it again. I'm glad I used WinMX when I did!

[Evil_Dweller_01]

Yes its tricky like that...but you could have tried refreshing couple times and I bet ya, you would find it

[googlestein]

Originally posted by Nothingface5384
why does every1 always complain about winmx's ques...if your gonna complain about qwaiitng in que try out soulseek and edonkey heh..far more worse then winmx que line

mxlinx also will work so will the hammer..just google it ;)


ha, youre crazy dude. i pay five dollars a month for a privilege status at soulseek. i have hardly have had to wait longer than a minute. that place rules. i can find full albums at 192kbs galore.

where else can you get independent releases like that? winmx? no.

though i feel winmx will be around longer than slsk. i feel its going to implode soon enough. too good to last.