Best BitTorrent Client Poll

[triniti]

What client do you think performs best on BitTorrent?

[thongsai]

well in my real opion i like experimental version best.. but i voted for shareaza cuz i wanted people to use it so i can have access to their files lol.. shareaza is a bittorrent without the need for a tracker..

[serrebi101]

shareazaa rules because you can get both sources from bit torrent, and the other networks with a torrent.

[Theinfamousone]

Is the new Shareaza beta version any better with Bittorrent?

[stephen_sterritt]

the experimental bittorrent client is best i get speeds of over 120k nearly all the time,with reloaded i was on a stead speed of 160k

so i was well pleased

[Power Penguin]

What channels do I go to to get MReloaded?

I use IRC right?

[stephen_sterritt]

i just downloaded the torrent file then let my client do the rest

http://www.suprnova.org/

thats where i got the torrent file and then bt experimental done the rest :@)

[Evil_Dweller_01]

I vote for BT++.. it just rips everything else apart

Maxing out my bandwidth both ways on that thing

[ManaSmoker]

Most definetly Shareaza for Bittorent. The single most useful file sharing program has got to be Shareaza.It has everything. The programmer of Shareaza is truly talented. Keep it up.

[wesr]

hmm, i tried to get reloaded, and i used the torrent from suprnova......but i only got 5-7 kb/s max, ummm, help?

[McWalt]

An article on mp3newswire.net says:

"The third and newest of the methods is the Bit Torrent support that has been added to the newest of the Shareaza betas. Bram Cohen the creator of BitTorrent told Slyck that in his view Shareaza's implementation was not perfect. Based on comments he had read he said that “the shareaza author doesn't understand BitTorrent's tit-for-tat algorithms at all” and therefore “the client is unlikely to be able to offer as good performance as the official one.” He also slammed Shareaza for not speaking to him saying no one ever told him anything about Shareaza's support. "

So Shareaza doesn't seem to be perfect, but it works fine with me...

[Sockfulloflove]

i like the burst! client.

(btw i started a thread like this about a week ago):mellow

[grab_grab_the_haddock]

does anyone know if there are plans to develop a version of bittorrent to disable sharing with shareaza users?

Hopefully this will be along soon.

[Anenga2]

Originally posted by grab_grab_the_haddock
does anyone know if there are plans to develop a version of bittorrent to disable sharing with shareaza users?

Hopefully this will be along soon.
Why would you want to do that?

[Anenga2]

Originally posted by McWalt
An article on mp3newswire.net says:

"The third and newest of the methods is the Bit Torrent support that has been added to the newest of the Shareaza betas. Bram Cohen the creator of BitTorrent told Slyck that in his view Shareaza's implementation was not perfect. Based on comments he had read he said that “the shareaza author doesn't understand BitTorrent's tit-for-tat algorithms at all” and therefore “the client is unlikely to be able to offer as good performance as the official one.” He also slammed Shareaza for not speaking to him saying no one ever told him anything about Shareaza's support. "

So Shareaza doesn't seem to be perfect, but it works fine with me...
Perhaps he was looking at the first beta, which did have problems. But the latest beta did fix those (it didn't have "Endgame" mode). I don't know why he would say it doesn't support's "algorithms" or whatever, no offense, but how would he know? Does he have the Shareaza source? :)

It is, afterall, only in beta stages. If issues are found, they can be resolved through the forum.

And by not communicating, I don't understand what he means by that. Does it mean he owns BitTorrent and that to get on BitTOrrent you have to go by him first? If that's how he wanted it then why did he release the source for BitTorrent and write specs for it? Mike did "create" G2 yet the specs are openly avaliable and I doubt "mldonkey" went and "communicated" with Mike prior to that, you shouldn't have to.

Bram just seems to be upset that Shareaza is "stepping on their toes" just as some eMule developers were (until Mike talked with them and now they're fine).

[triniti]

Originally posted by Evil_Dweller_01
I vote for BT++.. it just rips everything else apart

Maxing out my bandwidth both ways on that thing

I agree! Here is BT++ Smokin again!

[triniti]

Originally posted by Anenga2
Why would you want to do that?

Well because Shareaza is a leech, I never see it send anything BitTorrent to anyone, they have a very flawed implementation. Mike should have stuck out the G2 thing and try to make something of it, unless it really does suck, but i have not looked over the specs.

[triniti]

Could a mod move this poll perhaps to Forums > Zeropaid Insight > Zeropaid Polls I just relized it should be there. Sorry!

[evilmegaman]

Originally posted by triniti
Could a mod move this poll perhaps to Forums > Zeropaid Insight > Zeropaid Polls I just relized it should be there. Sorry!

Done ^_^ Oh yes so far I like the official client best but I will try burst! now.

[grab_grab_the_haddock]

Originally posted by Anenga2
Perhaps he was looking at the first beta, which did have problems. But the latest beta did fix those (it didn't have "Endgame" mode). I don't know why he would say it doesn't support's "algorithms" or whatever, no offense, but how would he know? Does he have the Shareaza source? :)



no he doesnt, and thats part of the problem, shareaza is a closed source client connecting to open networks with open source clients. we really have no way of knowing whether he is implementing bittorent support in a way which is harmful to the network or not. Basically we just have to take his word for it, and why should we?

[triniti]

Originally posted by grab_grab_the_haddock
no he doesnt, and thats part of the problem, shareaza is a closed source client connecting to open networks with open source clients. we really have no way of knowing whether he is implementing bittorent support in a way which is harmful to the network or not. Basically we just have to take his word for it, and why should we?

I could not have said it any better.:gj

[grab_grab_the_haddock]

well i dont want to see shareaza banned from bittorent completely (unless someone can show they ARE being harmful to the network)

but i use both emule and bittorent and would like to see a feature in both whcih can be used to disable sharing with shareaza ( the same way shareaza users can disable sharing for bittorent or emule)

And to answer the original question, i like the bt++ version, as im a sucker for a nice GUI , and i find it has slightly more options.

[Evil_Dweller_01]

Originally posted by grab_grab_the_haddock


And to answer the original question, i like the bt++ version, as im a sucker for a nice GUI , and i find it has slightly more options.

Exactly...

Anyways, can you download more then one file on the other bt clients?

[triniti]

Originally posted by grab_grab_the_haddock
well i dont want to see shareaza banned from bittorent completely (unless someone can show they ARE being harmful to the network)

but i use both emule and bittorent and would like to see a feature in both whcih can be used to disable sharing with shareaza ( the same way shareaza users can disable sharing for bittorent or emule)

And to answer the original question, i like the bt++ version, as im a sucker for a nice GUI , and i find it has slightly more options.

I am not for the banning either, but would as well like to see the options you have mentioned.

[evilmegaman]

Well I like burst! and I love it. It is totally awsome. I highly reccomend it.

[chipperrox]

That BT++ looked sexy
where can i download that

[cleverhat85]

Originally posted by triniti
Well because Shareaza is a leech, I never see it send anything BitTorrent to anyone, they have a very flawed implementation. Mike should have stuck out the G2 thing and try to make something of it, unless it really does suck, but i have not looked over the specs.
Shareaza is a leech? How is Shareaza leeching? Enlighten Me. Shareaza follows BitTorrents ratio, so if you aren't uploading you won't be downloading, hence you can't leech. If you can leech, then that would be not the fault of Shareaza but of other users Shareaza users are downloading from because they aren't using the ratio to judge other users.

G2 is doing just fine, but users use other networks for other files. You can have the best protocol and client in the world, but that doesn't mean it has the highest number of users/files. Any new client/network that comes out now will have a hard time accumulating users because users are already set on the clients they want to use etc.

How would you know if Shareaza "sends" anything to anyone? There are no client ID's in BitTorrent.

[cleverhat85]

Originally posted by grab_grab_the_haddock
no he doesnt, and thats part of the problem, shareaza is a closed source client connecting to open networks with open source clients. we really have no way of knowing whether he is implementing bittorent support in a way which is harmful to the network or not. Basically we just have to take his word for it, and why should we?
So you've gone over every line of BT++ & other legacy clients, then? You've confirmed they've "fairly" share etc. Give me a break, something tells me if Shareaza indeed was open source it wouldn't matter to you anyways.

If Shareaza were harmful to the BitTorrent network, you would be able to notice by running it or by using TorrentSpy, and I haven't had any evidence to that.

[triniti]

Originally posted by cleverhat85
Shareaza is a leech? How is Shareaza leeching? Enlighten Me. Shareaza follows BitTorrents ratio, so if you aren't uploading you won't be downloading, hence you can't leech. If you can leech, then that would be not the fault of Shareaza but of other users Shareaza users are downloading from because they aren't using the ratio to judge other users.

G2 is doing just fine, but users use other networks for other files. You can have the best protocol and client in the world, but that doesn't mean it has the highest number of users/files. Any new client/network that comes out now will have a hard time accumulating users because users are already set on the clients they want to use etc.

How would you know if Shareaza "sends" anything to anyone? There are no client ID's in BitTorrent.

When using BT++ I always have people transfering from me, then switching to shareaza I get no incoming connections. But clearly shareaza is not fully implemented the BT protocol because the most I see off of it is about 20 KB down vs. my BT++ or regular BT at 200+ KB as seen in the shot I posted.

p.s. netstat tells me about my inbound and oubound connections and I can see the difference with the same .torrent files.

[triniti]

Originally posted by chipperrox
That BT++ looked sexy
where can i download that

You can download it here: http://btplusplus.sourceforge.net/

[Tremaine]

shareaza can't be a leech your download speed depends on your uploads, it the way bittorrent was coded, on shareaza i had plent of users uploading from me. shareaza can be a leech in the aspect that is's incorporating others work, and if it really was a leech the people using shareaza speeds off bittorrent would suck!

[ROMANTICGUY50]

I have tried a number of diferent P2P. I like Shareaza, Kazaa lite K++ and a few others. I agree with the others that and with the poll that Shareaza is about the best multiclient out there at this time. I do hope it improves

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