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nasrules

May 6th, 2003, 10:52 AM

Originally posted by Ashitaka's Ghost
Nice job, Napho! XD Still May 6 by my watch!

I will wait for Anenga's approval before dling it, though. I don't want to corrupt the BitTorrent network if this was supposed to be a private beta.

Well, it does say 1.9 Public Beta. It's 1.8.8.0 in About though.

Mitsugi

May 6th, 2003, 10:59 AM

Originally posted by Wings_of_Azrael
Wow... this actually works nicely, especially for a beta. Shareaza definetly has some superior developers. I'm not sure what effect this will have on the fragile eDonkey and BitTorrent networks over time though.
won't affect bittorrent because it's forced uploading..

anyways.. i don't consider BT an p2p network, but it's still good, except i can't use it much because isp called before to tell me to lower dl and ul.

Ashitaka's Ghost

May 6th, 2003, 11:00 AM

Originally posted by Wings_of_Azrael
Hey... this opens Piolet links too.

Maybe it simply recognizes the hash, in the same way that 1.8.2 opens ed2k links...

endersgame21

May 6th, 2003, 11:00 AM

Originally posted by nasrules
Well, it does say 1.9 Public Beta. It's 1.8.8.0 in About though.
Yes and the exe napho gave us is http://download.server3.come2store.com/net/Shareaza1880.exe. Notice the 1880 after the Shareaza. Maybe that is just because it is still a beta and once it is final it will say 1.9. I don't know but I don't really care about the number either.

Mitsugi

May 6th, 2003, 11:02 AM

Originally posted by Ashitaka's Ghost
Nice job, Napho! XD Still May 6 by my watch!

I will wait for Anenga's approval before dling it, though. I don't want to corrupt the BitTorrent network if this was supposed to be a private beta.
it's released in their irc channel. also it's not private beta because they say private beta has password and stuff..

Wings_of_Azrael

May 6th, 2003, 11:18 AM

Someone explain how BitTorrent isn't a P2P network. From what I understand, someone uploads/seeds a file, others download it, peers download from and upload to peers. It looks and works a little differently because torrents are hosted on websites, but aren't they similar to hash link sites, except you actually d/l a tiny file? The actual appz, movies, ect. are all still downloaded from peers.

Or is the reason they try to differentiate BT from P2P simply to keep it from being labeled a medium for piracy?

Theinfamousone

May 6th, 2003, 11:31 AM

BitTorrent is a cross between an "underground" or "warez" site, and a P2P network, it can't be classified as either, nor can you deny that it has a lot of characteristics of both. It was only a matter of time before a system like this was implemented, and it rules.

EDIT: Thanks Napho, give my regards to Dawn : -)

nasrules

May 6th, 2003, 11:37 AM

In my opinion, it is a P2P network. Users download files from an initial source, then peers download it from them.

PEER TO PEER.

Mitsugi

May 6th, 2003, 11:39 AM

Originally posted by Wings_of_Azrael
Someone explain how BitTorrent isn't a P2P network. From what I understand, someone uploads/seeds a file, others download it, peers download from and upload to peers. It looks and works a little differently because torrents are hosted on websites, but aren't they similar to hash link sites, except you actually d/l a tiny file? The actual appz, movies, ect. are all still downloaded from peers.

Or is the reason they try to differentiate BT from P2P simply to keep it from being labeled a medium for piracy?
it's partially centralized, but is p2p.. except the centralized server(the tracker) uses alot of bandwidth to direct the clients where to download, who has which part, etc. and sometimes it goes down. (you must never seen hot release if you never seen a tracker that goes down)

vipp

May 6th, 2003, 11:41 AM

Yes napho, brilliant. In fact, I'd call that doubly brilliant. :;)

Wings_of_Azrael

May 6th, 2003, 11:47 AM

Hmm, the BitTorrent support needs some work I think. I can't seem to get more than a couple sources, then my downloads stop going after a short while. Either Shareaza's BT implementation is extremely beta, or it's just the fact that hardly anything worthwhile has been released on BT in the past few days.

Ken17625

May 6th, 2003, 11:51 AM

Bittorrent doesn't seem to wanna work for me, even given proper permission through my firewall. If on;y it had the ability to go through port 80. Then I could work around it.

Mitsugi

May 6th, 2003, 12:05 PM

The one on here is smaller in size then the one in shareaza irc channel. not sure if infected or incomplete or the server messed it up.

(%) Topic is 'SHAREAZA : http://www.shareaza.com/ | CURRENT VERSION: 1.8.2.0 | BETA VERSION: 1.8.8.0 - Download magnet:?xt=urn:bitprint:QPQGP2DI4C2AEL62J2YWPBAQA3 6JT6WX.BR4323AC6BDYQLS2SMZUZR3XBSKDHEHG4BHHFRQ&dn=Shareaza1880.exe || http://www.kiwiuk.net/shareaza/Shareaza1880.exe'

Ashitaka's Ghost

May 6th, 2003, 12:22 PM

A virus wouldn't make it smaller... it would make it larger :)

Get Kiwiuk's version.

Evil_Dweller_01

May 6th, 2003, 12:30 PM

Ok.. I got Kiwiuk's one..great news!

Mitsugi

May 6th, 2003, 12:33 PM

Originally posted by Ashitaka's Ghost
A virus wouldn't make it smaller... it would make it larger :)

Get Kiwiuk's version.
virus + compress might, but anyways.. download the one from channel, go verify it yourself

Djm912

May 6th, 2003, 12:52 PM

I know this is beta version, but. . . .is it normal for the files I search and select not supposed to download? :mellow

Kyle06

May 6th, 2003, 12:56 PM

hmmmmmm I do not see the link on the site to download it....

Kyle06

May 6th, 2003, 01:02 PM

Never mind I forgot I found it

Evil_Dweller_01

May 6th, 2003, 01:15 PM

Guys I dont want to be a bitch to the emule lovers..
BUT THIS BETA KICKS ASS!
I'm downloading files (big files hehe) on shareaza like crazy!
This is a dream come true.. bye bye emule plus (at least on my machine)

yay!

gnutellafan

May 6th, 2003, 01:21 PM

Where is the shareaza irc channel? Cant find a chat in shareaza app.

Anenga2

May 6th, 2003, 01:27 PM

Originally posted by gnutellafan
Where is the shareaza irc channel? Cant find a chat in shareaza app.
irc.p2pchat.net

#shareaza

Kyle06

May 6th, 2003, 02:04 PM

Hello, My firewall is off, When I am connected to Shareaza and make a search how come I am not getting any search results back...........

Christoph

May 6th, 2003, 02:15 PM

BitTorrent ?? where is the support for it? and what is it?
I was abel to download stuff from emule and gnutella users but a file from BitTorrent users.

Kyle06

May 6th, 2003, 02:17 PM

Never Mind I got it

tackdaddy

May 6th, 2003, 02:22 PM

i can't wait to try it.i just started using bittorrent and i like it,but if this also downloads off of there network this program will rule.

Borgster

May 6th, 2003, 02:36 PM

ill give this a try. i just think that mike should abondon gnutella completely, but its good that he made his own protocol, because gnutella1 hasnt been upgraded in a long time, and mike knew there had to be improvements on it.

Nothingface5384

May 6th, 2003, 02:37 PM

Originally posted by nasrules
In my opinion, it is a P2P network. Users download files from an initial source, then peers download it from them.

PEER TO PEER.

yes true..but the first initial dl is a user dling a file which is actually hosted via website, unlike being indexed from a p2p net like sharereactor...it can be considered a p2p..but not a true p2p system..just a file distribution system

canrocks

May 6th, 2003, 02:52 PM

Good job Mike! My only problem is that I can't connect to g2 without connecting to g1 first. Oh Well, it's amazing.

nasrules

May 6th, 2003, 02:57 PM

Originally posted by Nothingface5384
yes true..but the first initial dl is a user dling a file which is actually hosted via website, unlike being indexed from a p2p net like sharereactor...it can be considered a p2p..but not a true p2p system..just a file distribution system

Actually, it could be a user dling a file from another user.

SoloXtreme

May 6th, 2003, 02:58 PM

Originally posted by Dealie
Bastards.

Theres already 2 emule mods that offer blocking shareazaa.

And more comming fast. The emule community aint pleased.

Emule mod writers work faster too.

i think its funny how they are trying to blobk shareaza already so far since i installed it i have been uploading to emule v0.27 and nothing else and now they are gonna try and block it now thats just dumb

Cenarious

May 6th, 2003, 03:12 PM

Originally posted by SoloXtreme
i think its funny how they are trying to blobk shareaza already so far since i installed it i have been uploading to emule v0.27 and nothing else and now they are gonna try and block it now thats just dumb

I agree Solo, most of my uploads and the clients in queue are eMule, so it would be a bit foolish on their part for them to block shareaza.

canrocks

May 6th, 2003, 03:16 PM

It's officially out!!! Hooray!!!!

http://www.shareaza.com

thongsai

May 6th, 2003, 03:19 PM

heh havin hard time to connect to donkey.. lol.. and uploads take longer to start uploadin.. but its pretty stable i think!!... are the emule guys already blockin us? lol that sux.. y wont they want more sources?

Rickio

May 6th, 2003, 03:27 PM

Wings_of_Azrael

May 6th, 2003, 03:38 PM

They just don't want Shareaza stealing their thunder.

Evil_Dweller_01

May 6th, 2003, 03:38 PM

95% of my uploads consist of Edonkey and Emule users.. i have no idea how they could even dare to block shareaza..

Anenga2

May 6th, 2003, 03:41 PM

Originally posted by Rickio
damn really?
what is the reasoning for blocking shareaza?
Thats messed up.
They obviously don't want to lose users to Shareaza.

Isn't that ironic as they pretty much did eMule without eDonkey's "approval".

Shareaza shares with the eDonkey network fully, so I don't know what they're talking about. eMule is open source, and Mike works fast and I doubt he'll let them bitch him. So they can either play fair with Shareaza or Shareaza can match eMule's tactics.

Rickio

May 6th, 2003, 03:43 PM

If enough people jump on shareaza it won't matter.
But we will need time to see what develops.

LUCIFER{OS}

May 6th, 2003, 03:57 PM

Lets see...I've got emule, edonkey, shareaza, and BitTorrent uls going.
Had to edit my ul queues cause they were just getting crazy.

Got 1 BitTorrent dl going, the speeds r up & down, with about 40 sources.

Seems like I won't need the BitTorrent client anymore.

I've noticed the BitTorrent uls getting choked more often than not.

Evil_Dweller_01

May 6th, 2003, 04:18 PM

Originally posted by LUCIFER{OS}
Lets see...I've got emule, edonkey, shareaza, and BitTorrent uls going.
Had to edit my ul queues cause they were just getting crazy.

Got 1 BitTorrent dl going, the speeds r up & down, with about 40 sources.

Seems like I won't need the BitTorrent client anymore.

I've noticed the BitTorrent uls getting choked more often than not.

Once I go to a site with bittorent links.. how do I make them apear in shareaza?

condorloco

May 6th, 2003, 04:22 PM

This is great so far. Download speed 500kb/s:devil

cpugeniusmv

May 6th, 2003, 04:35 PM

Originally posted by Evil_Dweller_01
Once I go to a site with bittorent links.. how do I make them apear in shareaza?
when you click on a .torrent file in IE, it acts as a normal download and asks to save or open....just open, and if you set it up right, it will pop up.

if not, there is an option in shareaza to take .torrent files.

Evil_Dweller_01

May 6th, 2003, 04:53 PM

Originally posted by cpugeniusmv
when you click on a .torrent file in IE, it acts as a normal download and asks to save or open....just open, and if you set it up right, it will pop up.

if not, there is an option in shareaza to take .torrent files.

Hmm.. I tried that right now on www.suprnova.org and nothing happened.. the box suddenly appeared and then dissappeared without me doing anything.. it appeared for about 2 seconds.. wonder what could be wrong

LUCIFER{OS}

May 6th, 2003, 04:59 PM

Evil_Dweller, the torrent file I'm dling was already in 1 of my folders.
Its a .torrent file thats dled 1st, then u just double-click it to get it started.
Shareaza picked it up right away, like I was clicking a magnet link or a Sharereactor link.
Haven't tried it from a site like SuprNova.org, yet.
I'll try it in a lil while.

cpugeniusmv

May 6th, 2003, 05:13 PM

Originally posted by Evil_Dweller_01
Hmm.. I tried that right now on www.suprnova.org and nothing happened.. the box suddenly appeared and then dissappeared without me doing anything.. it appeared for about 2 seconds.. wonder what could be wrong
go into folder options, click the file types tab, scroll down to TORRENT and see if it is associated with shareaza.

Anenga2

May 6th, 2003, 05:46 PM

Originally posted by Dealie
The diffrence is OPEN SOURCE. We didnt need edonkeys approval.. Your statement is pure bullshit.

Where can i download the source for sharezaa and modify it how i want? You want all the emule network resources but dont want to even follow the one common rule...

Polluting an open source network with a propriatary client. bastards...

Its all good tho. the way emule works. its going to hammer the shit out of shareaza clients. since its stupid enough to allow it. and shareaza clients will always be at the BOTTOM of any emule queues just because of the way emule works.

Maybe i should write my own mod that downloads from shareaza only but only uploads to emule.. lol. Then we can all leech from the gnutella network thru you. Seems fair to me.
What I'm saying is that eMule users seem like Shareaza should of "asked" eMule first or something, like it's their network. Which is total bullshit because it isn't their network, eDonkey2K was the one who founded it. So it's kind of ironic when eMule users complain about Shareaza, don't you think?

If eMule stoops to spam other users on the network who play fair then people will stop using eMule, which is fine. Maybe it's time to pass the torch.

BTW, I think your avatar represents you pretty well.

Evil_Dweller_01

May 6th, 2003, 05:57 PM

Originally posted by cpugeniusmv
go into folder options, click the file types tab, scroll down to TORRENT and see if it is associated with shareaza.

Yes.. it is

serrebi101

May 6th, 2003, 06:02 PM

1. stop bitching that shareaza doesn't comply to a open standard? If its open, can't it be changed?
2. So now emule owns ed2k? Highlarius.
3. I don't give a dam what the emule dev says, unless it is hurting the network, seriusly, not just some stupid sharing ratio, then maybe I'll care.

thongsai

May 6th, 2003, 06:20 PM

lol im hurtin the emule community?
shareaza.jpg

Evil_Dweller_01

May 6th, 2003, 06:23 PM

Originally posted by thongsai
lol im hurtin the emule community?
shareaza.jpg

Exact same thing here.. i have 95 emule clients queued on my upload queue.. 2 shareaza users

Evil_Dweller_01

May 6th, 2003, 06:30 PM

I seem to have a problem.. I have no clue where the .torrent files go on my computer (if they do)
I seem to see the window (after clicking on the link) for about a second and then it disappears so I can't see where the .torrent files download if they do...
I searched for .torrent on my computer and there were no results.. is there any other way to do this?

isus

May 6th, 2003, 06:30 PM

i dunno if anybody has mentioned it yet, but has anybody noticed the huge number of users on edonkey now?

www.slyck.com

a few days ago, it said 500000 or so i believe, now it is over 700000... did shareaza do this?

thongsai

May 6th, 2003, 06:39 PM

evil .. shareaza has problems using the .torrent files from the web sites.. just right click and save as... then right click the file and open with shareaza.. simple lol

Evil_Dweller_01

May 6th, 2003, 07:14 PM

Yes thank you.. that works

Ashitaka's Ghost

May 6th, 2003, 07:57 PM

Originally posted by Dealie
<10 upload gets you a 1-3 ratio on YOUR download speed from the network. Shareaza ignores this. Essentially sucking bandwidth OUT of the emule network without ever providing nearly the same ammount BACK.

Blaaaaaaat. I am currently uploading to half-a-dozen eMule leechers and getting nothing in return.

Did you actually try enabling eMule support, or are you just parroting what the eMule-Mods people told you?

Oh, and I am sick and tired of having people tell Mike he is being hostile because he won't do things THEIR way. So, Shareaza is not open source, so you're blocking it? I suppose you block the original eDonkey as well, huh? Let's not forget Kazaa. I'll bet you never use Kazaa.

The Hunter

May 6th, 2003, 08:02 PM

K folks, just try to keep this a informative thread, and not a flame one. You know, just take a deep breath between posts. Wink

Ashitaka's Ghost

May 6th, 2003, 08:05 PM

It's really weird that this forum has :cross :fire :hole :wings smilies, but no wink smiley. :)

The Hunter

May 6th, 2003, 08:15 PM

I know but it still breaks the monotony, to type wink. Good to see you here, answering questions.

zaphodiv

May 6th, 2003, 10:38 PM

Those of you pointing out that you have lots more emule users than shareaza users on queue need to remember that there are lots more emule users than shareaza users.

The fact you have more mules on queue does not mean the mules are getting an unfair share of your upload. If you also gets lots more download from mules than from shareaza users then it is all working as it should.

Secondly just because _you_ are uploading dosn't mean other people will. The big question of wether it is possible to use shareaza as a tool to leech from the ed2k network has not been convincingly answered so far.

Overall shareaza1880 seems ok and no worse than the early versions of all the other ed2k clients.

Winphuk

May 6th, 2003, 11:06 PM

It's great! Lots of content and fast as hell!

serrebi101

May 6th, 2003, 11:26 PM

it is posible, remember in the set up there was check boxes stating share with g1, g2, and edonkey2000, thouse should be gone. Then most people would be happy.

Anenga2

May 7th, 2003, 12:56 AM

Originally posted by serrebi101
it is posible, remember in the set up there was check boxes stating share with g1, g2, and edonkey2000, thouse should be gone. Then most people would be happy.
Actually, those really mean "Connect" rather than "Share".

Theinfamousone

May 7th, 2003, 02:39 AM

I can't get BitTorrent to work, it never really connected to anyone.

Right now I have 937 sources for a Simpsons I want......0 b/s. *Closes Shareaza, opens up Kazaa*

EDIT: Ok, I got BitTorrent working, it's kind of nice to see all the users that I'm downloading from and uploading to etc., along with the graphs. I guess I can uninstall regular BitTorrent now. Maybe I'll keep it.

I don't really care for the Donkey network though, who knows why, but it just doesn't work. I'd like to see DC support.

EDIT #2: The Torrent link I used in Shareaza was going sooooo slooooooow. I started using the regular BitTorrent program and it's cruising at over 100KB/s, which is pretty good for how old the link is.

Oh yeah, the Simpsons that I had 937 sources STILL isn't going, and that was half an hour ago that it started. It says there's only 600 sources now though. It's dropping all the time. There are people uploading and sending data, but over all, it still says 0 b/s.

vipp

May 7th, 2003, 02:41 AM

Originally posted by Ashitaka's Ghost
It's really weird that this forum has :cross :fire :hole :wings smilies, but no wink smiley. :)

Sure it does :;)

Anenga2

May 7th, 2003, 03:03 AM

Originally posted by Theinfamousone
EDIT: Ok, I got BitTorrent working, it's kind of nice to see all the users that I'm downloading from and uploading to etc., along with the graphs. I guess I can uninstall regular BitTorrent now. Maybe I'll keep it.
Cool =) If you find any bugs/problems, be sure to let Mike know (http://shareazaforum.anenga.com/).

I don't really care for the Donkey network though, who knows why, but it just doesn't work. I'd like to see DC support.
Yea, it doesn't always work that well.

Regarding Simpsons episodes, perhaps you didn't wait enough for the Shareaza results to pour in? eDonkey search results come in faster becuase its' centralized etc. Since Shareaza is decentralized, it can take a bit longer to "crawl/walk" the network. For example, I'm sharing a pretty recent episode.

Anenga2

May 7th, 2003, 03:07 AM

Originally posted by zaphodiv
Those of you pointing out that you have lots more emule users than shareaza users on queue need to remember that there are lots more emule users than shareaza users.
Right. Shareaza allows more queue slots for eDonkey/eMule because it uses "Passive Queues" which has little to no overhead. Shareaza has Active Queues, that does use up overhead.

The fact you have more mules on queue does not mean the mules are getting an unfair share of your upload. If you also gets lots more download from mules than from shareaza users then it is all working as it should.
Also right. However, Shareaza does share fairly with eMule/eDonkey. It shares 50% of avaliable bandwidth.

Secondly just because _you_ are uploading dosn't mean other people will. The big question of wether it is possible to use shareaza as a tool to leech from the ed2k network has not been convincingly answered so far.
Well, if it is, it certainly is not by design. Shareaza is commited to share fairly with networks it partisipates in. See this:

http://www.emule-project.net/board/index.php?act=ST&f=2&t=17433&st=0&#entry112702

Overall shareaza1880 seems ok and no worse than the early versions of all the other ed2k clients.
WEll, I think the goal is to have Shareaza up to par or above other ED2K/BT Clients. If it is not, please let Mike know why on the Shareaza forum.

PirateCy

May 7th, 2003, 05:07 AM

Even if shareaza connects to 3 networks it can't reach the 4500000 users that kazaa has. Can shareaza find greek songs. No but kazaa can. :cross

WhitePony

May 7th, 2003, 05:37 AM

Well, I hadn´t used Shareaza ever since the 1.7 betas. At that time, I got pissed by the hyping tactics that the Shareaza "zealots" were using, the Shareaza Vs. BearShare debate, and well...the fact that it really did not live up to the hype.

However, as soon as I saw the news oh the support for other networks, I was pretty interested and I am, in fact, using Shareaza right now.

And I really have to congratulate Mike on a brilliant job! It´s working pretty stable, I´m regularly uploading to Donkey and G2 users, although my downloads all seem to come from eDonkey...guess it´s just because it has so many more users...but they are coming in faster that they ever did when I used eMule!

As for BT support, I downloaded a 75MB file last night in about 35 minutes, at a constant speed of around 70 KB/s (I´m on cable with a top speed of 640 Kb/s). I guess we can call that good.

My only complaint is that the connections made to eDonkey servers always end up being with relatively small servers. Anyway, at this exact moment, I´m keeping connections to 3 G2 Hubs, 4 Gnutella UP´s and one Donkey server and they seem stable enough.

So overall, even though it´s still just a beta, it´s already showing a lot of promise.

Finally, I´d like to congratulate Anenga on a very good job of keeping the hype at an acceptable level and helping people out with their questions. That´s even more commendable when we see that this time the Shareaza fans DO have a reason to hype it.

WRFan

May 7th, 2003, 05:57 AM

Please somebody tell me how to set upload and download speeds in shareaza. I simply don't get it, no matter for how long I study the options.

and also, how do I connect to edonkey through shareaza? I say connect to edonkey, it tries to connect to 192.168.0.9 and says connection refused. what kind of total crap is that? 192.168.0.9 is my own ip address on my intranet. I don't want to connect to myself!

also, I gues it's not a good idea to run shareaza in edonkey mode and emule at the same time, right? cause they would disturb each other

LUCIFER{OS}

May 7th, 2003, 06:31 AM

Goto Tools>Shareaza Settings>Download to set dl bandwidth limit.

LUCIFER{OS}

May 7th, 2003, 06:49 AM

Same deal as b4.

Goto Tools>Shareaza Settings>Uploads

Pick one of the queues and click edit.

LUCIFER{OS}

May 7th, 2003, 06:55 AM

After u click edit, use the slider to adjust the ul bandwidth limit.

WRFan

May 7th, 2003, 07:56 AM

thanx for the tips, but are there any restrictions if I reduce upload? will it have an impact on my downloads (I mean when I download from gnutella clients using shareaza)

LUCIFER{OS}

May 7th, 2003, 08:25 AM

Originally posted by WRFan
thanx for the tips, but are there any restrictions if I reduce upload? will it have an impact on my downloads (I mean when I download from gnutella clients using shareaza) I haven't seen any impact on my dls since I set ul limits.

When u use the sliders to set ul bandwidth limits, the other queues get automatically adjusted, as well.

U can still set them how u want, though.

Evil_Dweller_01

May 7th, 2003, 12:32 PM

Originally posted by LUCIFER{OS}
I haven't seen any impact on my dls since I set ul limits.

When u use the sliders to set ul bandwidth limits, the other queues get automatically adjusted, as well.

U can still set them how u want, though.

Lucifer, at first I did the same thing as you.. but its WRONG

You go to the connections tab and under inbound/outbound address you type in w/e you want the bandwidth to be.. or pick from the ones they choose

You might have to do this a couple times before shareaza accepts the speed you typed in.. but that's how you set it

LUCIFER{OS}

May 7th, 2003, 12:35 PM

Yea, I noticed that, after checking it again.

What I posted just lets u set the bandwidth for those seperate queues.

WRFan

May 7th, 2003, 02:14 PM

Originally posted by Evil_Dweller_01
Lucifer, at first I did the same thing as you.. but its WRONG

You go to the connections tab and under inbound/outbound address you type in w/e you want the bandwidth to be.. or pick from the ones they choose

You might have to do this a couple times before shareaza accepts the speed you typed in.. but that's how you set it

could somebody explain to me what the inbound and the outbound addresses are? I mean, for what "audience" is this programme intended? I am totally lost with all those weird difficult terms in the programme and no help around. is inbound = download and outbound=upload? so let' say I want to set upload to 8 kb/s and download to 90-100 kb. How do I adjust these inbound/outbound address values? I don't know what's phucking wrong with this programme, can't it use human language? It's intended for humans, after all, not for some professional technological gods or something. In kazaa/edonkey it's called upload/download, so that everybody can understand, there are no leafs/hubs/inbound or outbound addresses, I get head ache from all those foreign terms. And what really gets on my nerves, is that on the official shareaza forum you hardly get any help with these newbie questions, somehow everyone is thinking there that one should know what these terms mean from the start.

cpugeniusmv

May 7th, 2003, 02:17 PM

the inbound/outbound addresses should be YOUR IP address! This should be left at automatic, unless you absolutely need to change it!

Ken17625

May 7th, 2003, 02:35 PM

I was able to receive the gwbcaches for G1 and G2, thats refreshing.

However, I am unable to establish any connections. They either time out or are refused.

ed2k connects (rather unreliably) and gives me the port "whatever" unreachable. And of course I end up a with a low ID.

EDIT: Holy shit, I was actually able to connect to a g2 hub for all of about 15 seconds........................................... .............................
.................................................. .................................................. ..........
...................................before I lost it.

I'm not really blaming this on Shareaza at all. Its infuriating because i'm almost certain its my ISP. It seems all my ports are stealthed, and i'm NOT running a firewall.

Fuckers.

Theinfamousone

May 7th, 2003, 06:28 PM

I take back every bad thing I ever said about Shareaza, these aren't even very popular files.

Evil_Dweller_01

May 7th, 2003, 06:38 PM

Originally posted by Theinfamousone
It just keeps getting better. BTW, I'm downloading from 2 other programs at the same time and it still is cruising.

Nice upload bandwidth there..lol

Theinfamousone

May 7th, 2003, 06:43 PM

It just keeps getting faster too.

LUCIFER{OS}

May 7th, 2003, 06:43 PM

I've seen some of those speeds, also, but it was mainly with BT dls.

I even had some speeds hit in the Mb/s range, although that didn't last long, maybe about 10 secs at the max.

Evil_Dweller_01

May 7th, 2003, 06:51 PM

The Infamousone.. can you sustain those speeds for a while?

Cuz it might be a speed burst.. but a good one at that

shellreef

May 7th, 2003, 06:56 PM

Originally posted by Nothingface5384
yes true..but the first initial dl is a user dling a file which is actually hosted via website
The initial download isn't "via website" or HTTP, it uses the same BitTorrent Protocol as all peer-to-peer communications on BT networks use. Downloading from the origin is as same as downloading from any user (AFAIK).

Theinfamousone

May 7th, 2003, 07:02 PM

Originally posted by Evil_Dweller_01
The Infamousone.. can you sustain those speeds for a while?

Cuz it might be a speed burst.. but a good one at that

Well, they probably averaged 200KB/s, I mean, it took me 10 minutes to get that 183MB file.

BTW Those were NOT BitTorrent files!!

WRFan

May 8th, 2003, 08:05 AM

if shareaza connects to edonkey, then it should find the same files that I find using edonkey, emule or this tool:

http://i4m.de/esel_suche/english.html

how comes I get results in all three tools, but when searching with the same keyword in shareaza, I get no results at all?

btw, does somebody know how to bookmark a thread on this forum, so that it always displays the last page of the topic? because if I bookmark the last page on one day, and then go to that topic the next day, it has already moved forward 2 or 3 pages. is there a php variable which would force the forum to display the last page, something like &page=last or something?

CCSDUDE

May 8th, 2003, 08:19 AM

Originally posted by WRFan
if shareaza connects to edonkey, then it should find the same files that I find using edonkey, emule or this tool:

http://i4m.de/esel_suche/english.html

how comes I get results in all three tools, but when searching with the same keyword in shareaza, I get no results at all?

btw, does somebody know how to bookmark a thread on this forum, so that it always displays the last page of the topic? because if I bookmark the last page on one day, and then go to that topic the next day, it has already moved forward 2 or 3 pages. is there a php variable which would force the forum to display the last page, something like &page=last or something?

http://www.zeropaid.com/bbs/showthread.php?goto=lastpost&threadid=10173

That should do it...it'll always go to the last page.

WRFan

May 8th, 2003, 09:52 AM

Originally posted by CCSDUDE
http://www.zeropaid.com/bbs/showthread.php?goto=lastpost&threadid=10173

That should do it...it'll always go to the last page.

thanx :shy

LUCIFER{OS}

May 8th, 2003, 09:54 AM

This Shareaza beta is starting to be a real resource hog.

After having to restart it last night, then checking it this morning, I saw that its taking far more resources than before I had to restart it.

I just checked my task manager, and Shareaza is taking just over 35,000k in mem usage. Also, taking quite a bit of my cpu.

How is it for anyone else using this new beta?

Evil_Dweller_01

May 8th, 2003, 12:41 PM

Originally posted by LUCIFER{OS}
This Shareaza beta is starting to be a real resource hog.

After having to restart it last night, then checking it this morning, I saw that its taking far more resources than before I had to restart it.

I just checked my task manager, and Shareaza is taking just over 35,000k in mem usage. Also, taking quite a bit of my cpu.

How is it for anyone else using this new beta?

It depends on how much files you are downloading at one time and how much sources you have.. lol actually it DOESNT DEPEND on it.. but it will give it a boost i believe (dont know but these memory usages come up when you have a lot of downloads) at least for me..

Juggalo15

May 8th, 2003, 01:36 PM

Same here, with no d/l's or u/l's it was sucking up my comps resources. I didn't check how much I Just know it was like K++ is if you forget you have autosearch more turned on (thats a lot). I remember when I did that I came back and kpp.exe was taking up 100,000K mem usage..thats a lot.

Hova_19

May 8th, 2003, 04:02 PM

It sucks resources, basically stalls my system. But nothing on my pc doesn't suck resources. Kazaa sucks resources.

napho

May 16th, 2003, 11:55 AM

Since the title of this thread is this is the newest version of Shareaza this is the newest version of Shareaza.

http://download.server3.come2store.com/net/Shareaza1883.exe

DainBramaged

May 16th, 2003, 12:14 PM

Thanks napho, getting that now.

In terms of resources, Shareaza SHOULD take up quite a few. It has alot of connections to manage. Firstly, simply connecting to the networks. Then, connections to individual clients on those networks, especially if you set max transfers and transfers/file to a high level. Uploads as well. I'm sure there are ways to optimize them further, but the more stuff you can do, the more stuff it'll take to do.

Theinfamousone

May 16th, 2003, 12:42 PM

Originally posted by napho
Since the title of this thread is this is the newest version of Shareaza this is the newest version of Shareaza.

http://download.server3.come2store.com/net/Shareaza1883.exe

Is this still beta?

Evil_Dweller_01

May 16th, 2003, 12:54 PM

Originally posted by Theinfamousone
Is this still beta?

Yes it is.. although A LOT of stuff has been fixed

LUCIFER{OS}

May 16th, 2003, 01:09 PM

Originally posted by Evil_Dweller_01
Yes it is.. although A LOT of stuff has been fixed Is there a changelog?

I'd like to see whats been fixed before I upgrade.

napho

May 16th, 2003, 01:17 PM

It's "officially" released now so here are the changes.

Changes in this version

Reduced CPU usage for hubs (and seems for leafs too)

Rejected incoming connections (security ban list) are now never accepted. Previously they were accepted then closed. This is more efficient

Does not ID as emule 0.1

Uses "endgame mode" for bittorrent downloads, which may be why some could not finish (BT uses a special mode when nearing the end of a download).

Added support for BTs with > 31 files.

Detected and rejected BTs with > 4 GB file size (not allowed in shareaza)

New network control "connect today" vs "connect always", should be better

Could not become a hub when eDonkey is enabled. I think this contributed to a significant hub shortage.

Added "Open Torrent" button in download dialog

Fixed problem with bittorrents never doing anything

Added "creating" state for downloads while file is allocated

Changed the way web links are registered (other programs cant steal them)

Added priority servers for edonkey

Fixed some thread sync stuff

Created separate handshake thread

And maybe more?