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endersgame21
May 5th, 2003, 04:27 PM
Researchers at IBM have used carbon molecules to emit light, a breakthrough that could replace silicon as the foundation of chips and lead to faster computers and telecommunication equipment.

The focus of the research team was ultratiny, tube-shaped carbon molecules, or nanotubes, that are more than 50,000 times thinner than an average human hair, according to a statement from IBM released this week.

The scientists were able to engineer the carbon nanotubes not only to conduct current, but also to emit light.

Full Story (http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,110563,00.asp)

Crazy Horse
May 5th, 2003, 04:32 PM
Nanotechnology - amazing stuff. Star Trek stuff happening now. Transporters are something I would like to see in my lifetime.

Kyle06
May 5th, 2003, 04:36 PM
Originally posted by Crazy Horse
Transporters are something I would like to see in my lifetime.

I agree that would be really neat.. Also I think this technology will be neat when we all need to get new comuters cause these are soooooooooooooooooooooo out dated lol

gumdrop ink
May 5th, 2003, 04:49 PM
its good to see stuff like this becoming a reality, seeing as how we have totally wasted the last 20 or so years on improving toothpaste and other common house hold items instead of advancing real technology. just think we could be traveling space right now or alteast a hell of a lot more closer to it if the dark ages had never happened

sr2005
May 5th, 2003, 04:53 PM
Originally posted by Crazy Horse
Transporters are something I would like to see in my lifetime.
Ha, i was in a discussion about that not too long ago. But, i dunno if it's ever gonna be possible. Breaking something apart and putting it back together is one thing, but keeping a person alive while doing it is another. But you could transport objects i guess. It would be awesome to be able to step onto a little platform and be on the other side of the world in no time though. Mmmm... no more long car trips.

gumdrop ink
May 5th, 2003, 05:00 PM
transporters would be kool but i highly doubt any of us will see them in out life times for the simple fact that if the become possible its going to put the auto industy and the airline industry completely outta business and im really sorry to say but in a world driven by greed it just wont happen. come on now. ten years and we put a man on the moon. the internal combustion engine i believe (dont quote me on this) has been around for a hundred years or so and we cant manage to find a better cleaner way to get around. come on now

endersgame21
May 5th, 2003, 05:02 PM
Originally posted by sr2005
Ha, i was in a discussion about that not too long ago. But, i dunno if it's ever gonna be possible. Breaking something apart and putting it back together is one thing, but keeping a person alive while doing it is another. But you could transport objects i guess. It would be awesome to be able to step onto a little platform and be on the other side of the world in no time though. Mmmm... no more long car trips.
I don't know if you would have to keep the person alive. You could "break them apart" in one place and reconstruct them in another, their organs and everything. It would be like making a copy of them. An excellent book on this topic is Timeline by Michael Chricton.

ManaSmoker
May 5th, 2003, 05:19 PM
Haha Crazyhorse im still waiting for cars to fly and highways to be replaced by air roads such as seen in Back To The Future Trilogies , my favorite movies.

Psilaxs
May 5th, 2003, 05:42 PM
Ahh, nano technology, the non existent solution for all of technologies problems.


Sorry, i do not mean to sound cynical, but i have been keeping up on what's going on with "nano technology" for nearly a decade, and no real tangible progress has been made.

We'll get there someday (and i hope we do) but i still feel it is a long ways off.

When ever you read about some far reaching technology, and how they will overcome current limitations (whether it is aerospace, medical, manufacturing, computers etc) the first thing they say is "NANO TECHNOLOGY" and (insert two paragraphs that most people without a PHD in nuclear and quantum physics wont understand) and there you go, the solution to all of mans problems. lol

On an optimistic note though, I am hopeful of nano technology.

I just feel TOO much hope has been invested in it, rather then a natural progression towards plausible NT solutions.

It is the proverbial "Magic Bullet" for science

Crazy Horse
May 5th, 2003, 06:09 PM
I knew I left myself wide open with that transporter comment but I am an optimist. You have to remember I was here before cell phones, computers, "stereo", and alot of other marvelous inventions. In the last 20 years our technology has advanced leaps and bounds.

Mana: I, too, am still waiting for those flying cars an air roads that I read about as a child.

Ender: excellent book-yea I read it too.

I hope I live another 20 years to see what new advances become reality. Especially in the medical field. All it takes is ideas and an imagination.

notbob
May 5th, 2003, 06:15 PM
that article isn't so much about chips as it is about transmitting over fiber optic lines

the mini "torches" would go on and off sending binary messages via light, and therefore would go at the speed of light

current optical tech uses LED's or lasers, which compared to these nanotorches is like sending a shotgun vs. an aimed bullet

this technology would be almost worthless in a chip

isus
May 5th, 2003, 06:19 PM
and when will we see the first cpu using this technology? 100 years? ehh... maybe not, but still, it'kk be silicon for the next 5 at least.

Rickio
May 5th, 2003, 06:37 PM
ancient history or at least what was written in ancient text reads almost like science fiction.

there are ancient sumerian texts which indicate that earth was seeded by extra terrstrials and even more ancient texts speak of traveling to the stars by use of astral or spiritual travel.

Not saying any of it is true but as far as imagination is concerned it indicates that many of the things we imagine now have been thought of and tried in the past with spiritual practices.

well just a bit of weirdness there lol

if you want to know where I read that Zacharia Sitchin has some interesting deep reads on some of this stuff.

there was a story of how ancient astronauts used some computer like devices to alter dna and help create humans which were according to this story in the ancient text. humans were partly earth beings with there dna spliced to some extra- terrestrial beings dna.

weird and like I say these are ancient writings.

peace

chipperrox
May 5th, 2003, 06:56 PM
Originally posted by endersgame21
I don't know if you would have to keep the person alive. You could "break them apart" in one place and reconstruct them in another, their organs and everything. It would be like making a copy of them. An excellent book on this topic is Timeline by Michael Chricton.

Yea love that book- but uh wasn't that under the FICTION section?

d.crowley
May 5th, 2003, 07:27 PM
Originally posted by endersgame21
An excellent book on this topic is Timeline by Michael Chricton.

well, crichton is fun, but you ARE aware that timeline is a fictious book, right? the story might be *inspired by scientific backgrounds, but it's not based on facts or something...

chipperrox
May 5th, 2003, 07:29 PM
Originally posted by d.crowley
well, crichton is fun, but you ARE aware that timeline is a fictious book, right? the story might be *inspired by scientific backgrounds, but it's not based on facts or something...

Thank you for rephrasing my exact post :)

endersgame21
May 5th, 2003, 08:23 PM
well, crichton is fun, but you ARE aware that timeline is a fictious book, right? the story might be *inspired by scientific backgrounds, but it's not based on facts or something...
Yea, I was aware that none of that had actually happened but I was just trying to show you that transporters are at least plausible. Michael Chrichton usually knows what he is talking about and he wouldn't write a book that didn't make any since. He does lots of research for his books.

jolton
May 5th, 2003, 08:43 PM
it's pretty cool, and in fact i read in a that they've managed to teleport a light photon. It sounds stupid but it was a major breakthrough...however, it only occured once out of about a billion instances.
However, as for transporting a person, it will never be a reality for this reason: The human body has moving parts, electricity, and so on...all the blood flows, the cells move, your brain conducts electricity, and so on...ect.
it would be impossible to deconstruct the bodys matter (molecules, atoms, ect..) because it is never (on a molecular level) at a stand still.
But, suppose you could deconstruct it, there would be no way to form it back together because their would be no way to know where and in what state each cell was. You would have to know in exactly what state the matter of the body would have been in at the exact moment of reformation. In order for this to be accomplished, we must attain mastery of the chaos theory.
even so, i think that certain laws of gravity, momentum, and physics disqualify such a thing.
I do think that transporting such things as dogs and birds would be okay to do though, because it might make flying dogs..and everyone knows that a big flying dog would be cool.

Sephiroth
May 5th, 2003, 08:51 PM
Looks like Moore's Law is still going to apply for a while yet.

chipperrox
May 5th, 2003, 08:59 PM
Originally posted by endersgame21
Yea, I was aware that none of that had actually happened but I was just trying to show you that transporters are at least plausible. Michael Chrichton usually knows what he is talking about and he wouldn't write a book that didn't make any since. He does lots of research for his books.


As a huge fan of Chrichton (still havent figured out how to speell the name) I realized this one major rthing about all of his books, they are all plausable- except he gives the inventors of the technology one key breakthru that stumps researchers today- in his new one, prey- The key hard thing is engineering and manufactoring the tiny little dudes- but POW suddenly this privately owned company knows how...just like how quantum computing is not even close to the stage it was at in TimeLine

cpugeniusmv
May 5th, 2003, 09:09 PM
when i read the title of this thread...i was thinking, "hmm...potato chips, crunching at light speed...what an accomplishment."

now that i look at it again...i feel stupid lol.

chipperrox
May 5th, 2003, 09:11 PM
I thought i could crunch faster....

endersgame21
May 6th, 2003, 01:26 AM
Originally posted by Sephiroth
Looks like Moore's Law is still going to apply for a while yet.
Yeah, and hopefully it will continue with DNA computers and atomic or quantum computers. Sooner or later though I think Moore's Law won't apply. I just hope it is later.