help with bittorrent

[wesr]

can someone explain how to use bittorent and where the best .torrents (i guess) can be found...thanx

[Krell]

Sounds like a FAQ project to me !

[P2Pjunkie]

for torrent links: http://bittorrentsites.cjb.net/
for torrent FAQ: http://smiler.no-ip.org/BT/BTFAQ.php

I prefer the experimental client over the standard. It's just as stable and allows you to control bandwidth.

http://ei.kefro.st/projects/btclient/

Xmen2 stats right now 700 people are sharing the complete file 3000 more are actively downloading it. Just about anybody can expect to download this file as fast as their connection can allow. http://10mbit.com/suprnova/

[KurtCocain]

Daaaaaaaaaaaaammmmmmmmmmnn,

I topped with this baby 500-600kB/sec constant speed while at the same time d/l w/ 113kB/sec from Overnet. that's what I call sweetie !!!

Everybody: KurtCocain loves BITTORRENT :) (found the all official nirvana albums there, not that i dont have them but .. its good that they are out there:)

http://www.suprnova.org/

[P2Pjunkie]

When your CPU is maxed out, Bittorrent's reported speed goes way off, I've seen this with Emule also.

My old computer tring to play an Xvid would report some insane speeds. Problem solved..I got a new PC.

[Psilaxs]

I think people are confusing total speed (The available bandwidth from present peers) With downlaod rate, right now mine says 460 some K a second.

That is how much bandwidth IS available if you could pull that much.

I really like Bit Torrent, but it is hard to keep up with whats in circulation and what is a dead seed etc.

And a question for you bit torrent experts, How long does it have to run before max speed is reached? Im only pulling around 9K
for a 1.3 gig file

[mrlipring]

it all depends who's seeding the bit of the file that you're downloading and their upload speed.

If it's a big 0-day thing (i expect you'd get damn good speeds with an x-men 2 torrent) then you'll get good speeds, generally.

[nasrules]

With the speed thing, You're probably looking at the "Total Speed". You want to look at "Download Rate"! Total Speed is the speed you could get if you had an unlimited-speed connection.

Check out BT++ (http://btplusplus.sourceforge.net/). It uses .torrents in an eMule-style interface. You don't need to click a link to open it up now! Very cool.

[KurtCocain]

Originally posted by nasrules
With the speed thing, You're probably looking at the "Total Speed". You want to look at "Download Rate"!


Thats what I was looking at, man. Dont assume that i am dumb ass. :) I just have a badass conn for the weekends n stuff. i maxed my downstream w/ bittorrent -- its a fact. And it was the same speed that many of my speed tests showed. I was d/l Daredevil OST BTW.

[cpugeniusmv]

i decided to try bittorrent tonight, and i just have one word to say:

WOW!

[KurtCocain]

Originally posted by cpugeniusmv
i decided to try bittorrent tonight, and i just have one word to say:

WOW!

:tilted

Thats waht i was saying last night :)

[SamJam]

Originally posted by P2Pjunkie
for torrent links: http://bittorrentsites.cjb.net/ (1)
for torrent FAQ: http://smiler.no-ip.org/BT/BTFAQ.php (1)

I prefer the experimental client over the standard. It's just as stable and allows you to control bandwidth.

http://ei.kefro.st/projects/btclient/ (1)

Xmen2 stats right now 700 people are sharing the complete file 3000 more are actively downloading it. Just about anybody can expect to download this file as fast as their connection can allow. http://10mbit.com/suprnova/ (1)

Are there any other URLs for FAQ, etc? I have DLed the Client but I cant get to any of those Links that are posted... I've tried for 2 days. :(

Thanks,
Sam

[KurtCocain]

Originally posted by SamJam
Are there any other URLs for FAQ, etc? I have DLed the Client but I cant get to any of those Links that are posted... I've tried for 2 days. :(

Thanks,
Sam

Ok. U said uve d/led the client. now go to:

http://torrentse.cx/index.php?type=1&sort=download :))

pick a movie that u like (I have sorted them by popularity for ur convenience). then click on the "download" link -- ull d/l a .torrent file. So now, find where u d/led the torrent file and double click it -- ull start dling.

[P2Pjunkie]

Originally posted by P2Pjunkie
for torrent links: http://bittorrentsites.cjb.net/
for torrent FAQ: http://smiler.no-ip.org/BT/BTFAQ.php

I prefer the experimental client over the standard. It's just as stable and allows you to control bandwidth.

http://ei.kefro.st/projects/btclient/



The links looked right, but didn't work try again they should work now...

Sorry..

[Mel_Smiley]

here's a great bittorrent portal I've run across http://www.monduna.com/bt/ awesome site with some great BT FAQ's

[endersgame21]

I like BT++ also because you can have multiple downloads and it gives you more control than the original Bittorent program. Here is a good site which links to other bittorent link sites:
www.torrentlinks.com

Some of my favorite sites have went down like Donkax so I hope some of them open up again and people stop attacking the sites. Otherwise the bittorent world will die and that will be a shame cause it is one of the best p2p programs out there.

[Mel_Smiley]

enedersgame, you should read my Bittorent thread about the attacks. The "attacks' were really caused by people posting links on high traffic sites, causing sites to exceed their bandwidth. Slashdot.com was the main site responsible

[cnp23]

does anyone know what the DL/UL ratio is? Because sometimes by the time I finish downloading a torrent I end up uploading 10 gigs and downloading 1 gig.

[cpugeniusmv]

Originally posted by cnp23
does anyone know what the DL/UL ratio is? Because sometimes by the time I finish downloading a torrent I end up uploading 10 gigs and downloading 1 gig.
there is now ratio per say, you upload at full capacity all the time...and you download as fast as the number of sources available.

[Evil_Dweller_01]

Originally posted by cnp23
does anyone know what the DL/UL ratio is? Because sometimes by the time I finish downloading a torrent I end up uploading 10 gigs and downloading 1 gig.

Are you for real? Never happens here... I download at UP TO 180k and upload UP TO 28k limited..

[P2Pjunkie]

Originally posted by Evil_Dweller_01
Are you for real? Never happens here... I download at UP TO 180k and upload UP TO 28k limited..
same here...

What client are you using?
What is your connection speed?
What is availability of the files your getting?

1. shareaza's BT support currently sucks...before the sharaza nuts attack.. I'm sure mike will fix this in the next release.

2. My favorite client is The experimental client (http://ei.kefro.st/projects/btclient/) when I slow down my upload speed a little, my download speed doubles.

3. torrentspy (https://sourceforge.net/projects/torrentspy/) will usually give you info as to file availability. If there are more than 50 leaches per seed I'll usually wait a few hours.

[cnp23]

I use regular BT program. Not that experimental version or the other BT++ and stuff like that.

I'm currently on a EDU connection.

The files are pretty much available. Usually 30+ people seeding with more people dowloading/uploading.

Hm I wonder how people on DSL/cable get around this? Wouldn't the uploads kill your downloads? I remember back in the Audiogalaxy days, I had cable.. and whenever just 1 file would begin to upload, I would not be able to connect to any websites at all.

[P2Pjunkie]

Your connection is wildly better than the average user. With the standard client you will probably always upload faster than you can download from us slow DSL folks. (Thanks!)

With the experimental client you can limit your upload speed. Also you can increase the number of upload slots, this should help to speed up your downloads because of your fast upload. .

Your upload bandwidth is very appreciated!

On DSL, my download rate is pretty good, but my upload rate sucks. In an effort to download the file faster I have to limit my upload even more. After the download finishes I'll leave the file shared for as long as I can at full speed in an effort to speed things up for others and give back to the network.

anyway.. look at the experimental client, but don't limit you upload too much... It is appreciated...


BTW

BT++ is very pretty, but also very buggy. I hated it, and recommend against it.

[Evil_Dweller_01]

No.. BT++ is what I use and I never in my life had a problem with it.. I dont understand how it's buggy for all you people.. hadn't had a problem with it so far.. and hope I wont

My connection speed is 1.5mbps down and 256kbps up

[Evil_Dweller_01]

No.. BT++ is what I use and I never in my life had a problem with it.. I dont understand how it's buggy for all you people.. hadn't had a problem with it so far.. and hope I wont

My connection speed is 1.5mbps down and 256kbps up

[Andy_TRN]

You guys all have wonderfull connections but mine goes as far as 1000kb/s download and 20kb/s upload. I really hate it....the fastest I ever downloaded was 990 kb/s and the fastest upload I have ever seen was around 17 kb/s and I have been using this provider for 3 years now. All other providers here have a 1 gig download limit so I have no choice.

[P2Pjunkie]

with 0.5.3 uploads would not continue after download finished(this is evil serious bad), and changes to the upload rate only took affect after exiting the program and restarting it. The author has stopped development (at least for now) and even he thinks that his code sucks.

quote from the author of BT++ (https://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?forum_id=275084)
" The only thing this release fixes is the problem of finshed downloads not getting moved from the temp to the incoming directory.

Furthermore this will be the last version of BitTorrent++. Upon request of the developers of the original BitTorrent client we will rename the project. Also the first release under the new name will be some time from now. Currently I'm occupied with my Abitur and after that I'll think on how to continue BT++. It WILL be continued, but as I'm not really pleased with all the code (I'm of the opinion that it is a real mess) I could end up rewriting it. Perhaps even in another language than Python."

Sharing many files is what makes the Edonkey network so slow. Bittorrent is about very limited number of files fast. Making BT look more like a traditional P2P app will slow it down like a traditional P2P app.

[Mel_Smiley]

So BT++ sucks? Thats all I've used since I started using BT. Should I switch? Its always worked fine in the download department, but I have had it take up a dungload of spae by not moving the files from the temp folder. What to use?

Also one other thing. when you make a torrent to post, do you put the file into its own folder, run completedir on that folder, then start BT and the fie will appear in the transfer window to start uplading? Ive been trying to make a torrent it shows up as 0 uploaed, 0 downloaded. Is this just BT++ or me being a moron?

[Mel_Smiley]

OK guys try this out and see if you see what i see http://torrentse.cx/ WTF??? Have they been hacked???? Or maybe they're upgrading as promised

[P2Pjunkie]

BT++ was good for downloading, but as I said it wouldn't upload (at least for me) after it finished downloading. Does BT++ want to prevent uploading, do they want to kill the network.

Does it continue uploading for you?

I really recommend the experimental client (http://ei.kefro.st/projects/btclient/). You might be supprised to see how long it takes to upload as much as you have downloaded (unless your on and .edu..Thanks again)

as for http://torrentse.cx/ they have been slahdotted.

http://slashdot.org/articles/03/05/18/1428203.shtml?tid=126&tid=95

slashdot is a very popular geek site, when they mention a website every geek in the world has to check it out.

slashdot effect (http://whatis.techtarget.com/definition/0,289893,sid9_gci214064,00.html)

[Mel_Smiley]

When I click on torrentse all I get is a black screen that says "what"


No, BT++ does not continue download even though I have it checked. I have to go to the history tab and start the uplaod manually. Sometimes I like this ,sometimes its a pain. I dont restart uploading files that have plenty of seeds but I do Keep uploading if there are few seeds

[P2Pjunkie]

If you upload at 20k/s and download at 150k/s than at the end of a 400mb download you have only uploaded 53mb.

I see that as just plain rude!
Even if it is well seeded, somebody is gonna love that extra speed, it may be you next time.

Why is Bittorrent so fast; because most people don't use BT++

as for creating .torrents. If I followed this right.. You create a .torrent, nobody else has it yet, and BT++ says somthing other than zero up or down for that file. That is very wrong.

[Mel_Smiley]

so it should say 0??


Some files need more seeds then others. Plain and simple. Its not a question of right and wrong but who needs the bandwidth most. A torrent withe 5 completes and 20 people downloading can run your bandwidth wide open. If another torrent only has one seed but 60 people downloading they need the bandwidth more. Dont leave every window open because of some obligation you dont understand. Do what you can, but its ludicris to tell people to leave evry download open till they have uploaded the whole file to some one else. We all help and thats enough. Dont complain

[P2Pjunkie]

"so it should say 0?? "

I should think so.. have you ever given a torrent you created to sombody else to see if they can download from you? .

Mel:
I didn't mean to turn this into a personal attack..If I did.. I'm Sorry.

Too many people just kill the upload as soon as they get the file. Even if they don't have somthing else they want to do with their bandwidth. I don't think that it's ludicris to tell people to leave every download open till they have uploaded the whole file to some one else. I see it as a good goal to shoot for, sofware that makes that difficult is bad. I believe this has even been fixed in BT++ 0.5.4

[Mel_Smiley]

Point taken. and sorry if I was rude also. Bad day at the office and all that! lol

[P2Pjunkie]

Originally posted by Mel_Smiley
Point taken. and sorry if I was rude also. Bad day at the office and all that! lol

no problem...It's all good.